AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Donswife48]

100% i do not believe this was random at all, whether burglary or kidnapping. It was preplanned and they knew who they were after. If a robbery, why take her from her home? She doesn’t know who they are with the masks etc. Kidnapping, the $, it’s more often than not. I still believe the SIL is involved, how exactly, I’m not sure. Could be in hiring someone to help with the kidnapping, set up ransom, etc., was he there that night? Yes, I believe so, not sure what his part was exactly (maybe he gave Latana flower guy details about the home/cameras etc), as an example, but not sure what his part is exactly. The date and time were known ahead of time to commit this and others were involved to help with it. I don’t have anything to prove this theory. MOO

I'm curious why you think TC is involved?

 

[Wsimm]

IMO he was using the plants as a grip to get the nest Camera off. He was wearing stupidly bulky gloves so looks to me that he couldn't get a grip the first time. Aren't they sticky too?

IMO…if the plant picking was for gripping purposes he’s not a numb skull. Unprepared but not unskillful. Weird

 

[The OG]

If you could ask LE/FBI any question about this case and receive an answer,
What would you ask?
I'd like to know what the ransom note said or what the house looked like inside.

Why do you keep taking evidence from AG'S?

 

[Winter67]

I actually don’t think he was pushing the bell. I think he was trying to gauge how securely the doorbell was attached to the house.

When he realized it could not be quickly lifted away he went and got the plant to cover the lens.

But he pushes it several times like you would if you rang the doorbell. Just a thought that stuck out to me.

 

[heli]

Who is DE? Wracking my brain on this one.

SIL's bandmate

 

[Emerald1328]

The FBI are probably collecting her mail until NG found due to ransom letters being sent in. Nothing much to this imo.

I’m a bit surprised they aren’t watching the mail like a hawk, daily, if they thought this was a possibility.

 

[Moonchime]

Sorry if this has been discussed before (man this board moves fast!!!!) but is it a fact that Nancy got home safely after game night, aside from Thomasco saying he drove her? I'm just trying to understand why law enforcement continues to search Annie's house since the crime is said to have taken place at Nancy's house. Doesn't make sense to me.

We really don't have any definitive proof that NG made it safely home. We're just going by what we've been told. Who knows anymore? I sure don't.

 

[LarryLujack]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2021705071940010477

someone trolling LE, IMO...

 

[dogmom805]

dbm, already answered

 

[nightowl2728]

Bring up a picture of the front door. The door bell is to the right. Watch the video at the same time and he is pushing in to something right where the doorbell is located. The camera is a little above and he is covering that with his glove.

I did look at what I could find of the front door and watched the video and I don't see the door bell or the movement you're referring to. Not saying your wrong! But if you're able to share a photo pointing that out may be helpful. No worries if not

 

[PCHS]

Wondering if anyone can think of a case where hiring a private investigator helped more than it added to the confusion.
I really can't think of any off the top of my head.

I don't think they have a choice at this point they need to get someone else in - and with SG's connections potentially she can get someone who was recently in FBI who still has contacts that can tell them what is really going on and then go from there. My understanding is there was alot of turnover with senior FBI/CIA etc who likely would be an asset to the family. I mean unfortunately I would presume the worst, but if there is any chance at all.. they have to do something different b/c this doesn't appear to be working imo

 

[jtfolden]

IMO he was using the plants as a grip to get the nest Camera off. He was wearing stupidly bulky gloves so looks to me that he couldn't get a grip the first time. Aren't they sticky too?

Neoprene gloves are pretty grippy on their own. The juices from a soft plant would only make it more slippery.

 

[Dotta]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2021701022272385194

 

[SaraSmile]

Completely agree! They clearly have no idea where she is... why not try the simplest grid searches ANYWHERE they reasonably suspect she could be. Main priority.

The only thing I can think of otherwise is that they DO have proof of life and that's been ongoing. But I am highly skeptical that's the case (despite SG's video Monday... now two days ago).

I think their searches today along nearby roads going up into nearby hills, is the right idea.
Also nearby desert dirt roads.
They found a mask, 5+ miles away, gloves 1 mile away.
Any idea if these are related?
Sorry if already discussed.
JMO

 

[Friday Fan]

If this glove is in fact from the abduction would you really be able to extract actionable DNA from a black glove that has been sitting under the desert sun for over 10 days?

That glove is an excellent shape for sitting in the desert sun for 10 days. It still maintains the shape of the hand that discarded it! I see no pollen or dirt on the thing.

I feel bad for the person who discarded it! (Unless of course, it's the perp) But I sense a false arrest on the horizon.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2021696791272456224

 

[fridaybaker]

PHOENIX (AP) — Chris Nanos has had a long career in law enforcement, but he admits he isn’t used to the amount of scrutiny that has come with leading the investigation into the disappearance of “Today” show host Savannah Guthrie’s mother.

With the case now in its second week, Nanos has also acknowledged missteps, including that he probably should have waited longer to relinquish Nancy Guthrie’s home to her family after his detectives finished combing through it for evidence.

And critics, including a fellow Democrat, called him out for going to a University of Arizona basketball game last weekend while the victim was still missing.

Arizona sheriff finds himself under a microscope with the Nancy Guthrie case in its 2nd week

Chris Nanos has had a long career in law enforcement, but he admits he isn’t used to the amount of scrutiny that has come with leading the investigation into the disappearance of “Today” show host Savannah Guthrie’s mother.

apnews.com

Yes, I'll never understand this. This was a highly publicized case from its inception. Going to a game just gives such bad optics. Very unwise. I cringed when I heard it.

 

[HoveringWombats]

So, this just kind of thinking out loud, theorizing, and asking questions — no verified info at all, truly my opinion only. So you can freely skip this entire post if that's not of interest to you and you will miss nothing of value.

Also, I assume authorities are already doing this stuff, so I'm not trying to suggest that I'm coming up with novel ideas here; just thinking out loud and trying to learn......

On the cell phone topic, I know some things about how the cell network works, but I'm far from an expert in it. And a lot of my knowledge is probably out of date.

I'm curious if anyone here knows roughly how many active cellular devices might be in range of a tower in a neighborhood like NG's? I'm thinking probably somewhere between high hundreds and mid thousands? Quite a few, but not 100K or anything. Of course if you pulled in more towers, you'd end up with some more, but you also might be able to narrow it down by only considering devices that were talking to multiple towers such that they are more likely to be in the area of interest.

So, how big of a list do you think you'd have if you wanted to look at every single cellular device seen in the area in, say, a four hour period? You could probably quickly eliminate a bunch as known residents of the area (not saying clear those people of suspicion, but the presence of their devices here isn't notable). With cooperation from the carriers, and a team of workers, I'd think you could get through the list relatively quickly, and at least categorize into three or four buckets of relevance (ranging from "this is clearly not interesting" to "we must look into this one immediately").

Of course, it's entirely possible that, like Bryan Kohberger, the person or persons turned their devices off before entering the area. Or (less likely IMO, but possible) that they simply did not carry any devices with them. But at some point they would have to turn the device back on/reunite with it. So I guess at that point you'd have to expand the radius, which would exponentially increase the number of devices to consider. Maybe not practical. Also, very possible they used burner phones, but even that would be worthwhile to identify.

Anyway just wondering if anyone here is more deeply familiar with the cellular network and how you might approach this. (Not really interested in AI summaries and the like; I can generate those myself..)

 

[Chimera]

I would imagine they’re on their best behavior. One of NG daughter is a MSM journalist after all. This family, in totality, is what I would consider pretty well connected. SG even called the state senator at the very beginning of all this. I imagine they’re being treated pretty well. Also I do think a lot of LE get a bad rap sometimes. Most have hearts and are generally nice decent people willing to help.

Bbm.
Yes !
Thanks for bringing that up, thought I'd read it before, and then couldn't find it.
Mark Kelly ?

I'll try to find it.... brb.
Imo.


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[korncrasy]

Perhaps the suspect was under the false belief that there was no closeup footage of his outfit, and thus LE would have no basis to examine random gloves. I hope so, anyway.

If the glove was found on the right hand shoulder of the road it would be quite a toss from the drivers side.Easier from the passenger side.

 

[Der Detektiv]

The moderators have said today that if you don't like a post, just scroll past it rather than rudely calling it out.

Websleuths is supposed to have a welcoming, community feeling to it. I have been a member for 18 years (5 on my new devices and login information after losing my old; 13 under different login information on my old).

Seems very cold here lately.

Hopefully all the name-calling and rudeness I've seen on here in the last 24 hours isn't a regular occurrence here. Just today I have been labelled ageist and homophobic for proposing theories despite being an elder gay myself!