Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[fridaybaker]

PHOENIX (AP) — Chris Nanos has had a long career in law enforcement, but he admits he isn’t used to the amount of scrutiny that has come with leading the investigation into the disappearance of “Today” show host Savannah Guthrie’s mother.

With the case now in its second week, Nanos has also acknowledged missteps, including that he probably should have waited longer to relinquish Nancy Guthrie’s home to her family after his detectives finished combing through it for evidence.

And critics, including a fellow Democrat, called him out for going to a University of Arizona basketball game last weekend while the victim was still missing.

Arizona sheriff finds himself under a microscope with the Nancy Guthrie case in its 2nd week

Chris Nanos has had a long career in law enforcement, but he admits he isn’t used to the amount of scrutiny that has come with leading the investigation into the disappearance of “Today” show host Savannah Guthrie’s mother.

apnews.com

Yes, I'll never understand this. This was a highly publicized case from its inception. Going to a game just gives such bad optics. Very unwise. I cringed when I heard it.

 

[HoveringWombats]

So, this just kind of thinking out loud, theorizing, and asking questions — no verified info at all, truly my opinion only. So you can freely skip this entire post if that's not of interest to you and you will miss nothing of value.

Also, I assume authorities are already doing this stuff, so I'm not trying to suggest that I'm coming up with novel ideas here; just thinking out loud and trying to learn......

On the cell phone topic, I know some things about how the cell network works, but I'm far from an expert in it. And a lot of my knowledge is probably out of date.

I'm curious if anyone here knows roughly how many active cellular devices might be in range of a tower in a neighborhood like NG's? I'm thinking probably somewhere between high hundreds and mid thousands? Quite a few, but not 100K or anything. Of course if you pulled in more towers, you'd end up with some more, but you also might be able to narrow it down by only considering devices that were talking to multiple towers such that they are more likely to be in the area of interest.

So, how big of a list do you think you'd have if you wanted to look at every single cellular device seen in the area in, say, a four hour period? You could probably quickly eliminate a bunch as known residents of the area (not saying clear those people of suspicion, but the presence of their devices here isn't notable). With cooperation from the carriers, and a team of workers, I'd think you could get through the list relatively quickly, and at least categorize into three or four buckets of relevance (ranging from "this is clearly not interesting" to "we must look into this one immediately").

Of course, it's entirely possible that, like Bryan Kohberger, the person or persons turned their devices off before entering the area. Or (less likely IMO, but possible) that they simply did not carry any devices with them. But at some point they would have to turn the device back on/reunite with it. So I guess at that point you'd have to expand the radius, which would exponentially increase the number of devices to consider. Maybe not practical. Also, very possible they used burner phones, but even that would be worthwhile to identify.

Anyway just wondering if anyone here is more deeply familiar with the cellular network and how you might approach this. (Not really interested in AI summaries and the like; I can generate those myself..)

 

[Chimera]

I would imagine they’re on their best behavior. One of NG daughter is a MSM journalist after all. This family, in totality, is what I would consider pretty well connected. SG even called the state senator at the very beginning of all this. I imagine they’re being treated pretty well. Also I do think a lot of LE get a bad rap sometimes. Most have hearts and are generally nice decent people willing to help.

Bbm.
Yes !
Thanks for bringing that up, thought I'd read it before, and then couldn't find it.
Mark Kelly ?

I'll try to find it.... brb.
Imo.


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[korncrasy]

Perhaps the suspect was under the false belief that there was no closeup footage of his outfit, and thus LE would have no basis to examine random gloves. I hope so, anyway.

If the glove was found on the right hand shoulder of the road it would be quite a toss from the drivers side.Easier from the passenger side.

 

[Der Detektiv]

The moderators have said today that if you don't like a post, just scroll past it rather than rudely calling it out.

Websleuths is supposed to have a welcoming, community feeling to it. I have been a member for 18 years (5 on my new devices and login information after losing my old; 13 under different login information on my old).

Seems very cold here lately.

Hopefully all the name-calling and rudeness I've seen on here in the last 24 hours isn't a regular occurrence here. Just today I have been labelled ageist and homophobic for proposing theories despite being an elder gay myself!

 

[birdbox]

That looks like it was tossed no more than a few hours ago! I'm sorry....A glove that has been out for 10 days won't look like that!

Heck it's still in the shape of the hand it was on!

Maybe the desert preserves things like that, but they also have dirt and pollen in the desert. They also have gravity. As in: A glove will lose the shape of the hand it was in fairly quickly after it is removed.

Dang what if someone just planted coworker they hate DNA on it and threw it out after seeing on news??

 

[pulchra73]

I always reach for flowers when I can't get a grip. Seriously though, black latex/nitrile gloves are pretty grippy - even if worn over another pair. Hard for me to understand it.

Hope they get him alive so we can find out.

His glove on the right hand was enormous, looked like a boxing glove. What else was he going to use to gain a better grip?

 

[thefragile7393]

Seriously some of you are absolutely unhinged, can't do your own research or just completely stupid.

Iranian sleeper cells?
Cartels?

Should have to pass a test to post here.

Jesus wept.

I think the best thing we can do is throw in our opinions as to why those theories are, in my opinion, most likely not the most probable cause and go from there.

 

[jtfolden]

But he pushes it several times like you would if you rang the doorbell. Just a thought that stuck out to me.

My thinking is if he actually rang the bell then that also would have been part of the timeline, like when they indicated that another camera detected motion a short time later.

 

[shadowsc]

@UsernameRequired ; thanks for the video link !

Keep thinking LE had more to go on than just his mother in law thinking his eyes looked like the person in the security footage ?

Sounds like he's in the clear and maybe his MIL needs to apologize to him and not so much LE who were following up & only doing their job ?
Jmo.

No, his MIL was telling the reporter that the FBI or someone had told her that her son-in-law's eyes looked like the guy they were after. MIL is not the one who ever said that, she said the photo of the suspect did not look like her SIL at all. She wanted to show a photo of her SIL to the reporter (because he was being interviewed by investigators at the moment and not doing camera interviews yet), but couldn't because the FBI had taken her phone. She also said the FBI had gotten a tip that Nancy was in her house. She was clearly upset and was like they can look anywhere, we don't have anything to hide.

 

[PCHS]

Yes this could be the case with service providers, repairmen, delivery people who assemble furniture, etc. They come into the house, see the pictures of NG with her daughter. They get ideas about making some big money.

Or don't even see SG but see an older woman, lives alone who appears well off...which is an easier mark I think at this point someone who did work at the house or provided services is a sensical avenue - it is someone familiar, with access and knowledge. imo

 

[tbgo]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2021701022272385194

BE had an open box of these. Hopefully a reporter didn’t drop one from their reporting in the area. I’m sure more than BE showed them for their report. He said they’re easy to find and buy in the area.

 

[stmichael]

Maybe he does not work or deliver alone.

When they pulled him over he was doing Uber eats deliveries with his wife and kids in the car.

His mother said that he was working in Tuscon all week doing deliveries (he said he works for GLS, a UPS type company)

per NY Post stories.

Delivery driver detained in Nancy Guthrie abduction investigation released after several hours: ‘What the f–k am I doing here’

“They held me against my will,” the man told reporters outside his home. “They didn’t even read me my rights until two hours later.”

nypost.com

 

[MassGuy]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2021710998814814635

 

[Deepinthought52]

We've had decades of domestic terrorism risk from white nationalists and neo-nazis. If you want to examine the terrorism angle, you can add them to the list too.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2021701022272385194

Every time I find a single black glove out on a walk, you know the case that I always think of… I feel like it’s somewhat common unless they can see it looks like one the doorbell person was wearing. These gloves don’t look they would drop easily unless person trying to quickly put them in a bag? The media is grasping at any straw for drama and ratings. Still wish they would give LE more slack instead if pouncing at every crumb. Jmo

 

[Der Detektiv]

If the glove was found on the right hand shoulder of the road it would be quite a toss from the drivers side.Easier from the passenger side.

What about a motorbike driver? What if the glove-thrower was a passenger (i.e. accomplice) in the car?

 

[PCHS]

Bbm.
Yes ! Thanks for bringing that up, thought I'd read it before and then couldn't find it.
Mark Kelly ?
Jim Kelly ?
I'll try to find it.... brb.
Imo.

Mark Kelly. He doesn't run FBI though but he may have some contacts that could help retired etc.

 

[RayVon]

I’m not piling on . I think you’re doing fine. I do agree with OP that we don’t need any confusion on such a fast moving thread. I’ve NEVER seen one move this fast. Maybe say “ I’m just speculating “ in your posts . We ALL speculate and throw out theories on here.
We who have been here longer should be using shorthand for that so newer users will see it and pick it up. I think some of us have forgotten to do that due to the speed of the thread. ( MOO )
Examples:

IMO =. In my opinion
JMO = Just my Opinion
IMHO = In my honest opinion
MOO = My Own Opinion.

Hope this helps! I remember when new members would ask “ why is everyone Moo-ing ? “. Lol

Thank you for the shorthand.

 

[VegasGirl35]

I agree the glove is going to be a nothing burger. It certainly doesn't look like it's been baking in desert sun for the past ten days.

 

[kspoon45]

I always reach for flowers when I can't get a grip. Seriously though, black latex/nitrile gloves are pretty grippy - even if worn over another pair. Hard for me to understand it.

Hope they get him alive so we can find out.

Is it possible he reached for something else to handle the camera with because he was concerned that hand had DNA evidence that could transfer? Given the holster, it seems that he was left-handed so anything he did or touched with his left hand would be more likely to transfer DNA. MOO.