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NG being picked up by someone to go to the group church gathering was, iirc, a poster surmising that might be the case.
I’ve not seen that confirmed anywhere.
Do you have a link?
Yes, I think they said back slider wide open. Yes, trail of very small blood drops, front door, whole walkway, to circular driveway. Probably, car was brought to driveway, when she was movedAnd wasn't the back door open when family got there? I need to look that up --- but I am pretty sure I saw that. With the blood on the front porch, I assume they for sure went out that the front.
He couldn't have used a key until the camera was disabled? I mean that's just common sense.Most likely already brought up. But I put the picture up of the door and watched the video several times. Looks like he definitely pushed the doorbell three times while covering the camera with his glove. Why ring the bell if it was planned. I've all along thought the BIL but he would have a key I am sure. Such a puzzling case.
Yes NG is well to do, but obviously not living in a mansion or living in the lap of luxury. Without seeing the picture of SG, random service people wouldn't assume the family or NG had $6 million to spare?Or don't even see SG but see an older woman, lives alone who appears well off...which is an easier mark I think at this point someone who did work at the house or provided services is a sensical avenue - it is someone familiar, with access and knowledge. imo
Could he have rung the doorbell to let his accomplice know he (getaway driver?) was there?Most likely already brought up. But I put the picture up of the door and watched the video several times. Looks like he definitely pushed the doorbell three times while covering the camera with his glove. Why ring the bell if it was planned. I've all along thought the BIL but he would have a key I am sure. Such a puzzling case.
That was my guess: they were picking up stuff for the family. Who knows how many clothes they packed and are their children with them? They have to be getting antsy.I’m wondering if a possible explanation for one of the two cops at AG’s house leaving with a bag of groceries today could be that the family needed some supplies/toiletries/snacks but didn’t want to risk their privacy, and more importantly, their life safety, by either going to a physical store, or entering the address for where they’re currently staying when ordering online, where it could be viewable, and thus leakable, by store website staff, the personal shopper and other in-store staff, the delivery driver etc.
If there’s a policeman going to the house every day, to remove mail while wearing gloves, in case a hard-copy ransom letter gets sent there in the family’s absense, maybe the family said “We’re going to be ordering a few things from Whole Foods, with a “Leave on the doorstep” instruction. Please could you have someone bring it to our secure, unknown location when your guy goes today to get the mail?”
Is it just me or did masked guy at the door walk and move so calmly almost reluctantly. Or so calmly, more indifferent like a hit man. Like im clocking in, dont really feel like doing this vs today. Almost like a sort of non character lazy-ish hit man.I agree with everything except the last sentence. The rest of it reminds me of Missy Bevers case, with the exception that the perp left the body.
Moo.,..but lantana leaves are sticky, he must have basic knowledge of plants. Obviously the leaves didn't stick. Maybe he works landscaping?The flowers are f'in weird. I've seen teen porch pirates who navigate a ring cam with more ease than this flower move. Why do a little "oh" dance and look for something to cover it when you could JUST COVER IT WITH YOUR HAD.
Seriously - you can see a ring from the curb in my experience, roll around that corner and immediately cover it, WHY DILLYDALLY IN FRONT OF IT?!
That is so sad. This is why I hate the runaway speculation of the eyes and whatever people think they are seeing from a shadowed series of photos.No, his MIL was telling the reporter that the FBI or someone had told her that her son-in-law's eyes looked like the guy they were after. MIL is not the one who ever said that, she said the photo of the suspect did not look like her SIL at all. She wanted to show a photo of her SIL to the reporter (because he was being interviewed by investigators at the moment and not doing camera interviews yet), but couldn't because the FBI had taken her phone. She also said the FBI had gotten a tip that Nancy was in her house. She was clearly upset and was like they can look anywhere, we don't have anything to hide.
Thats odd because his wife was targeted. Did Savannah immediately think she was targeted???Bbm.
Yes !
Thanks for bringing that up, thought I'd read it before, and then couldn't find it.
Mark Kelly ?
I'll try to find it.... brb.
Imo.
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Thank you for the clarification!That may have been my post but it was deleted because of no source. The person who was detained does say “they have my phone” what ever that means. Did they keep his phone or could that mean phone location from tower data, who knows. JMHO
They're everywhere.BE had an open box of these. Hopefully a reporter didn’t drop one from their reporting in the area. I’m sure more than BE showed them for their report. He said they’re easy to find and buy in the area.
Maybe ringing the doorbell was supposed to get her to open the door, so no forced entry? I’m just throwing thoughts out there, because I have no idea — it is a puzzling case!Most likely already brought up. But I put the picture up of the door and watched the video several times. Looks like he definitely pushed the doorbell three times while covering the camera with his glove. Why ring the bell if it was planned. I've all along thought the BIL but he would have a key I am sure. Such a puzzling case.
maybe? In my opinion, you could probably put my dad in one of these and I don’t think I could recognize him. Or my momIm surprised how many people are speculating it is BIL in these images. It’s safe to say that his own family would recognize him if that were the case.
I was responding to the person who said she opened the door a crack and they pushed their way in. That's what the doors are there for... to stop that as well as forced entry.
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My mother's house has a door similar to that. It has the bars and glass, so you cannot reach through. I doubt she opened this door. So, either he came to disable the camera before using the door, or someone else let him in, not NG. I don't know where I saw it mentioned that NG came in through the garage, but what if someone who had been in the house knew that she always uses the garage door and that person unlocked the front door? She likely would have expected it to be locked and didn't check it before going to bed. My mother never used the front door, but occasionally, one of the kids would open it and it would have remained unlocked. She never thought about checking it, but then she left the back door unlocked while she was gone. It used to drive me a little crazy.Those are extremely common screen doors. I'm a neigbhorhood volunteer and see them all of the time. The door doesn't prevent a homeowner from opening it. There does not appear any forced entry. Yes, she could talk through the screen door, but he either accessed through the front door that was cracked open or entered the home another way.