AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

  • #23,021
  • #23,022
I'm just speculating here, but likely Walmart, Amazon, Dick's Sporting Goods and a few other vendors are being asked to supply records of purchases involving the items worn by the person seen on the camera, ie - items sold to a person or two in AZ. Remember how Kohberger's amazon history pre and post murders became relevant? MOO.
 
  • #23,023
This is what I posted earlier today: Some men tattoo their wrist with a cross. When they extend their arm, the cross is placed as seen in copied pic. Looking at perp’s wrist, I’m wondering if I see a cross due to the spacing from top to mid-section?
That's a stretch. Nothing is visible IMO
 
  • #23,024
Anybody else sort of disgusted watching the media circus? Like tuning into a live stream all you see is people following cops around and harassing people leaving flowers at Nancy’s house. Not sure I have ever seen a crime scene like this
I am not disgusted because one doesn't have to tune into the live stream(s) if they don't want to and if the people in that neighborhood are doing something wrong I'm sure LE would be all over it. If people feel harassed they won't have to go far to report it because LE is in the area or they can call it in.

I've seen media like this at many scenes. I lived near the Anthony's when Caylee Anthony went missing. Our streets were overrun with media and searchers. We (my parents and I) understood though because Caylee was missing. We wanted as much attention on her as possible even if it got crazy at times.

I see some people don't like certain media and/or YouTubers reporting in the area. That's ok. Don't watch them.


Moo.
 
  • #23,025
What about a motorbike driver? What if the glove-thrower was a passenger (i.e. accomplice)

Has anyone considered that the images they released from the door camera are NOT THE ONLY IMAGES they have from the camera? It is likely the battery operated on the camera long after it was removed from the mount. I'm guessing that LE has pictures from that camera showing it in scrub somewhere and THAT is why they were looking in Folks yards yesterday and in NG's yard today. They would know the camera was discarded, in scrub, and how soon after it was removed from the mount, so that narrows the distance it could be significantly. Just a thought, fwiw, IMHO.
Excellent thinking.I bring my camera inside to charge it.I place it on my floor because we use it to see if mice enter our engine ( to me this makes my camera a hanta virus carrier).While on the floor it continues to record video and live viewing of my heat radiator if I haven’t manually turned it off.
 
  • #23,026
  • #23,027
But if that guy was “cleared” why is DD posting about it today? Strange …
Someone shared it today recently but the post was made last night by DoorDash at 1:00 a.m. Always look for time & date clues.
 
Last edited:
  • #23,028
Excellent thinking.I bring my camera inside to charge it.I place it on my floor because we use it to see if mice enter our engine ( to me this makes my camera a hanta virus carrier).While on the floor it continues to record video and live viewing of my heat radiator if I haven’t manually turned it off.
WTH
 
  • #23,029
  • #23,030
This convinces me more and more the perpetrator arrived and left ON FOOT, they are examining too much along the scrub land between the properties to actually believe that they drove to or from the scene.
How could he, or even multiple people, move a body on foot out of the area?
 
  • #23,031
I’m wondering if a possible explanation for one of the two cops at AG’s house leaving with a bag of groceries today could be that the family needed some supplies/toiletries/snacks but didn’t want to risk their privacy, and more importantly, their life safety, by either going to a physical store, or typing in the address for where they’re currently staying when ordering online, where it could be viewable, and thus leakable, by website staff, the personal shopper and other in-store staff, the delivery driver etc.

If there’s a policeman going to the house every day, to remove mail while wearing gloves, in case a hard-copy ransom letter gets sent there in the family’s absence, maybe the family said “We’re going to be ordering a few things from Whole Foods, with a “Leave on the doorstep” instruction. Please could you have someone bring it to our secure, unknown location when your guy goes today to get the mail?”

Just my own thoughts and opinion, but it crossed my mind as a possibility.
Plausible.
 
  • #23,032
I think the possibility of a political motive can't be ruled out. The fact that SG called Senator Mark Kelly before anyone raises some questions with me. He's currently under political attack of his own and being made an example of by the current administration. His wife was also violently targeted by a deranged individual who killed several others. It could just be because they are close and she trusts him. But, on the other hand, could there have been something left in the house that indicated to her that this was a politically motivated crime? Was she seeking his advice? Fearful of who to trust?
He represents Arizona as senator. A lot of people will call on their house and senate representatives for support.
 
  • #23,033
I wear disposable vinyl gloves for everything. I'm a serial hair dyer. I wear gloves whenever I dust or clean. We have nitrile gloves too. Nitrile is recommended when handling paint thinner or solvents and are a bit sturdier than vinyl and cost a bit more. Hubby prefers nitrile. My hair dresser wears nitrile.

They may be nitrile or butyl. The thicker butyl gloves for chemical handling are like space suit gloves and resist acid. It looks like her wore that variety.

In either case, it would be hard to get a grip on anything, much less get a finger in the trigger guard of the gun. It's a very odd choice. You can see him fumbling when he handles the doorbell cam then goes to pick up the latanas. If he was confronted with an armed defender he would be at a great disadvantage drawing and handling a firearm w/ those gloves on.

I actually use these gloves in my workshop for cleaning guns, or using harsh solvents for stripping/refinishing firearms (using Acetone, M.E.K. and other chemical strippers). They are hella cumbersome.
 

Attachments

  • butyl.webp
    butyl.webp
    14.4 KB · Views: 131
  • #23,034
Wouldn't it be easier to use dogs?
I've been trying to keep up so apologies if this has been answered, but are there are statements out there about what the dogs hit on and where they lost the scent? I only read of dogs having been used here, if anyone has a link to source speaking of dogs being used I'd appreciate it.
 
  • #23,035
  • #23,036
I think the possibility of a political motive can't be ruled out. The fact that SG called Senator Mark Kelly before anyone raises some questions with me. He's currently under political attack of his own and being made an example of by the current administration. His wife was also violently targeted by a deranged individual who killed several others. It could just be because they are close and she trusts him. But, on the other hand, could there have been something left in the house that indicated to her that this was a politically motivated crime? Was she seeking his advice? Fearful of who to trust?
There’s more going on than what is publicly known, said my peace hundreds of pages ago. She is by no means to blame for anything but I’ve always believed its related to SG. Willing to be wrong and most likely am but I think she’s connected somehow, even loosely. SG moderated 2 governors speaking on political extremism in Dec 2025. Nothing is beyond the realm of possibility at this point. MOO

 
  • #23,037
I think the possibility of a political motive can't be ruled out. The fact that SG called Senator Mark Kelly before anyone raises some questions with me. He's currently under political attack of his own and being made an example of by the current administration. His wife was also violently targeted by a deranged individual who killed several others. It could just be because they are close and she trusts him. But, on the other hand, could there have been something left in the house that indicated to her that this was a politically motivated crime? Was she seeking his advice? Fearful of who to trust?
I think SG knew this was serious enough to communicate all leads through LE. They have all the power. He must be a close friend.
 
  • #23,038
The newly found black glove looks as if it has been positioned pointing in a specific direction.. creepy
Oh no, I've been reading backwards to try and catch up and I've totally missed this info. Anyway someone could share a link to this information?
 
  • #23,039
Not to me. The arch of the eyebrows looks different
Yes, they look "worked on". Maybe that was part of his disguise. He may not have a mustache at all and did that to his eyebrows to throw people off because of BK.
 
  • #23,040
He seemed anything but professional and indeed even a bit bumbling. He was staring down and walking slowly so as not to trip coming up to the porch and when confronted with the camera he incompetently just held his fist partially in front of it. He could have just placed his thumb over the lens while he examined how to remove it. Then backtracks to look for something, finally a plant, to cover the lens.

Someone said that the holster was not the correct size for the gun either, so it’s not clear he knew what he was doing with that either.
Holster was made for a revolver. Gun was not a revolver.
 

Guardians Monthly Goal

Members online

Online statistics

Members online
422
Guests online
3,208
Total visitors
3,630

Forum statistics

Threads
641,565
Messages
18,774,583
Members
244,820
Latest member
lmichel
Back
Top