AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[thefragile7393]

That's what I'm concerned about. Is it still there? Where is it from? Who left it there, and when?

Blu shirt? I missed that

 

[PCHS]

Stretcher?

Cheap and easily available in shops.

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I don't think someone brought a stretcher with them jmo

 

[simlyme]

I don't think anyone has talked about the rope the criminal picks up ,in the video. Bends down on right side of entrance , can plainly see it's a rope.Or has that been mentioned ?

 

[EstherElle]

If this were an inside job involving family, and the ransom is an unrelated opportunist, why take her off the property? Could take years to have someone declared dead and get inheritance if that’s motive. If the ransom is related why are they still holding out when the family said they would pay? Nothing makes sense… MOO

 

[mikenikes]

Did anyone else notice that in the snapshots of the suspect, one of them he does not have the gun and backpack on him. Are there 2 separate people wearing the same clothing? Or is that a photo of him captured after committing the crime..? Walking back to the house after using the gun and items in the backpack, to remove the camera?

 

[Der Detektiv]

The shrub pulling made me think “gardener/landscaper”.

Amateur opinion and speculation only

I have to disagree. Most gardeners would by habit pull from the bottom of the stem in order to get the root out.

The masked man simply pulls off a few leaves. He seems to struggle to bend down too. He certainly doesn’t do it regularly.

 

[HerNameWasBuffy]

Stretcher?

Cheap and easily available in shops.

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How would they get her away from her property on foot with a stretcher? They can't walk down the street without risking detection even in the middle of the night. I understand the lots are large and hers wouldn't have been captured on the ring cameras of neighbors, but they'd have been caught on some camera if they tried to move her any distance.

This would work if they were moving her into the yard, but how would they get her out of the area?

 

[SMK777]

It could have been left there by someone (LE, Press, YouTuber, etc.) days later and was placed on the rock to make it more visible to whoever left it behind.

Yeah, that used to happen when I lived in a condo complex: Gloves, jackets, etc would be left near the group mailboxes so people could see they had lost them.

I'd say it belongs to someone from the press.

 

[m00c0w]

I mean imo it is more straightforward now that there is someone on video in a mask. And occam's razor would say someone who has some familiarity with the home and that an elderly well off lady lived alone. She had staff that took care of the home inside and outside the house, not to mention the recent roof work. All of those people could realistically be familiar enough if they wanted to commit a robbery or take her to the ATM or whatever else their purpose was. There is no leap in logic there - the path is pretty linear to me imo

BBM

But they didn't. Instead, they dress up in a ridiculous outfit, monkey with some lantana for ultimately no real reason, and then theoretically kidnap her and hold her for ransom, but don't even send the ransom note until quite a while later. And the ransom note that's sent is sent to two different news agencies days apart. Someone wanting to commit strong-arm robbery against an old lady is not going through this amount of trouble and effort, least of all ending it with insane ransom demands.

JMO

 

[HmmMysterious]

What I've seen so far from LE and FBI doesn't inspire a lot of confidence. Sorry, but the idea that they're playing 4D chess is kind of laughable.
This poor woman might never be found. We've seen enough cold cases here to know that the odds are slim at this point.
You can't search every home and backyard in this large area. She might also have been taken to Mexico. So frustrating and sad.

Taken to Mexico by who?

 

[Pharmasgirl]

But he soooo enjoyed dressing up for the event.

 

[HoveringWombats]

I don't think anyone has talked about the rope the criminal picks up ,in the video. Bends down on right side of entrance , can plainly see it's a rope.Or has that been mentioned ?

In which video? Do you have a link? I am only aware of the two videos officially posted on the FBI site. I just re-watched both, and don't see a rope being picked up anywhere.

 

[maskedwoman]

There was discussion of bears and coyotes yesterday. Could the perps have left the house unlocked and these animals have gone in, and… eaten Nancy’s body? That might explain the blood by the door.

I don't think so. Animals leave a horrible mess behind and there would be.... bits all over. Clothes, bone, and blood smears. It would have been clear to LE almost right away that there was no need to search for her.

 

[MassGuy]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2021764635175924226

 

[Friday Fan]

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Thanks for this. I latched on a few days later. So I'm sure I missed it.

 

[SaraSmile]

Just some random thoughts:

• Was the person smart enough to not bring his cell phone?
• Are there any LPRs in the area — on a likely exit route? Or was the person smart enough to not use a vehicle with correct plates? Maybe had stolen plates, or a temporary tag, or removed/covered the plates?
• Is there not a single camera in the neighborhood or at a business that caught even a bad image of a vehicle?
• The untraceable (so far) messages to the media outlets and the bitcoin account suggest some level of sophistication. Yet you don’t bring something to obscure the doorbell camera? Of course, this assumes the messages and bitcoin account are actually connected to the perpetrator, rather than an opportunist.
• There was a search warrant for the residence in Rio Rico, which requires LE to put forth some facts or evidence in an affidavit and present it to a judge. They would need more than similar eyebrows. LE must have had some type of information that made the gentleman who was detained last night viable. I’m convinced that gentleman is a dead-end lead, but to get the search warrant, I wonder if LE had some type of information that put him (and perhaps many others) in a pool of potentially viable leads. In other words, does LE have at least some dataset of digital evidence, from which they can include or eliminate individuals as possible persons of interest?
• Hopefully there’s a reporter on the ground who is working to dig up the affidavit for that search warrant. It will likely hold valuable information.

Re Vehicle
I wondered, too, that we have not heard of a vehicle picked up on nearby cameras. I would think at that late night hour, a vehicle would be seen on camera, reported to the public to look for it.

JMO

 

[investigatoroffacts]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2021330343056507029

Can someone clarify why the Amazon package is still sitting there unopened? I would think it would be important to confirm whether it contains anything relevant to the case. With all the letters and ransom notes they are reporting showing up after the night NG went missing, please help a gal understand why they wouldn’t look in it? And take it away?

 

[milkshakedonkey]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2021764635175924226

How long would that take realistically?

 

[ssarahbg]

Hopefully, they geofenced any cell numbers that pop up in that location at that specific time and trace them back to burner purchases at certain stores. Then maybe they can get some video on a burner purchase.

I don’t have a lot of burner experience but I would believe the number would connect to a carrier and they would be able to trace where it was purchased. I can’t imagine they would have their personal phone on them but who knows. He did use foliage on the camera.

 

[GMG1999]

If this were an inside job involving family, and the ransom is an unrelated opportunist, why take her off the property? Could take years to have someone declared dead and get inheritance if that’s motive. If the ransom is related why are they still holding out when the family said they would pay? Nothing makes sense… MOO

So much about this case is confusing. Why would you take a woman from her home to kill her? If it simply to kill her, why not there at the house?