AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[dogmom805]

Perp may also have been on drugs.

Or mentally ill/Schizophrenic

 

[EstherElle]

Would a family have to wait for someone to be declared dead before selling a home, or is the years-long wait just for things like life insurance?

Arizona has a 5 year rule, most states take 5-7 years

 

[GussiedCanoodler]

Or mentally ill/Schizophrenic

they may have some type of mental health disorder but I don’t think this is all the result of active psychosis, if that’s what you mean. It’s too well thought out and not erratic enough.

 

[m00c0w]

Bitcoin wallets are pseudonymous, not anonymous. Every transaction is recorded on the blockchain. A sophisticated actor might swap the “dirty” bitcoin for monero, which, if used correctly, is essentially anonymous because its blockchain record hides key details like sender, receiver, and amount. Monero makes it much harder to attribute a dirty past to specific coins.

Most criminals want to turn crypto into dollars they can use in the real world. The easiest way of doing that is through a regulated exchange connected to a bank account. Many get caught because they attempt to obfuscate the flow of funds, eventually depositing the coins to their crypto exchange, but a blockchain analytic firm is still able to track the funds to the exchange which often has the customer's personal info.

There are ways of cashing out crypto without going through a regulated exchange, but these are higher friction and slower.

This is why I'm also skeptical of the ransom angle... $6m in crypto from one wallet is going to be difficult to launder around without attracting attention to it. There's next to no chance you get that liquid without setting off all sorts of flags quickly. It's almost like an afterthought that seems superficially plausible, but is fraught with issues when you dive into how this would actually be accomplished.

JMO

 

[dogmom805]

Brian Entin was talking to someone and asked the guy if people in Tucson knew that Nancy had a famous daughter. The guy said yes, most people involved in community life do. But then he made a good point that SG herself is from this area. She grew up here. Most people there know she grew up there. Local kid who made it big, hometown pride.

I hadn't really thought about it like that. I had been thinking who goes after a news anchor's mom. Who even knows she has a big star daughter. But someone local from that area may have been aware of the family for years.

No real theory, just broadened my thinking of this being related to SG.

Maybe even a kid who went to school with her (aka middle school/High school)

 

[Sundog]

How did Nancy get her meds? Were they delivered by Amazon?

Lots of people get their meds by mail, but it's possible she just got them at her local pharmacy drive-through.

 

[Der Detektiv]

This is why I'm also skeptical of the ransom angle... $6m in crypto from one wallet is going to be difficult to launder around without attracting attention to it.

In that case could the perp receive some form of sexual gratification from receiving large amounts of money?

 

[slowpoke]

That's how it looks to me, too. I am baffled by his approach to the camera. The plant, the lack of having some duct tape, but mostly when he covered it he used the side of his hand.

I've tried it myself, as if I was going to cover the camera and it's a very unnatural movement. You naturally want to use the palm of your hand. The way he did that was so awkward. I'm sure it means nothing but it's just bugging me as I can't even come up with a theory why he wouldn't cover palm first.

My maybe silly idea (I posted this before) was that a bug like a black widow spider was there, so he needed something to brush it away.

 

[whitelilac]

Except all over Great Britain

And Australia. I grew up with that word, and still use it since long after I left.

This case....I wish we had a Chief Longo on it, from the beginning. He was relentless, persistent and committed. The way he involved the public, etc. Very difficult case, and it was because of him and his tactics that the monster Jesse Matthew was caught. Ended up solving Morgan Harrington's case too.

 

[BrittMontero]

Or he is...

Yeah. He seems to be doing better than everyone else, so far.

 

[DizzyB]

If the backpack is truly from Walmart, that would be something. How many times have we seen footage of criminals buying their gear at Walmart?

 

[labubu5]

Thank you, I had not seen that. I've had to skip some posts in this fast moving thread.

CNN today wrote, “The backpack appears to be an Ozark Trail Hiker Pack, according to a CNN analysis. Ozark Trail is Walmart's private-label outdoor brand.”

It looks like the same backpack manufactured under different labels. Here’s the Walmart version, sold for $10.88.

 

[barth00]

Was looking at older articles today, and this one was interesting mostly as to insight into what NG was like. (I don’t have FB, so if she posted there, I can’t see that.)

(LINK)

Four years ago, she asked on the neighborhood Nextdoor app for recommendations on doorbell cameras. (So maybe that’s around when she bought the Google Nest system?)

What was interesting was why she wanted it. She didn’t say it was to feel safe; she wanted to see “animal activity at night”. I thought that was so sweet.

Just this little thing told me she was proficient enough at social media to make posts like this.
And that she was interested in the world around her.
Sometimes some older people turn inward and lose interest in life outside of themselves, but not NG.

Just my observation and musing.

(Oh, and I blocked out names of replies she got.)

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This is so sad. but thank god for that camera

 

[Friday Fan]

Was looking at older articles today, and this one was interesting mostly as to insight into what NG was like. (I don’t have FB, so if she posted there, I can’t see that.)

(LINK)

Four years ago, she asked on the neighborhood Nextdoor app for recommendations on doorbell cameras. (So maybe that’s around when she bought the Google Nest system?)

What was interesting was why she wanted it. She didn’t say it was to feel safe; she wanted to see “animal activity at night”. I thought that was so sweet.

Just this little thing told me she was proficient enough at social media to make posts like this.
And that she was interested in the world around her.
Sometimes some older people turn inward and lose interest in life outside of themselves, but not NG.

Just my observation and musing.

(Oh, and I blocked out names of replies she got.)

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Good find!

Four years ago, she did not seem to be worried about break ins etc.
Seems like the area was safe or safe enough for her (Which I thought, just by looking at it)

 

[HerNameWasBuffy]

My maybe silly idea (I posted this before) was that a bug like a black widow spider was there, so he needed something to brush it away.

I think that's very plausible.

 

[Der Detektiv]

If the backpack is truly from Walmart, that would be something. How many times have we seen footage of criminals buying their gear at Walmart?

It’s clever though that, as it’s cheap, hundreds of thousands in the US must buy that backpack every week. It’s going to be difficult to trace down one buyer.

 

[GussiedCanoodler]

It’s clever though that, as it’s cheap, hundreds of thousands in the US must buy that backpack every week. It’s going to be difficult to trace down one buyer.

Definitely agree with this. Let’s hope that the buyer bought it from the nearby Walmart and it was purchased recently as well. Otherwise I don’t see how they’d be able to track it down.

 

[KH05]

I hope they’ve investigated the man that has seemingly showed up to the scene twice (correct me if I’m mistake ). He said he lives 15 minutes or miles away. Really wanted to direct blame to the SIL. I think he was in both the sisters neighborhood and Mrs. Guthrie’s neighborhood.

 

[whatzthebuzz]

Family history question:

~snip~

Were either of them married before or does either of them have now adult children from a previous marriage/relationship?

I'm curious about this, regarding all of the siblings, but I would hope LE is looking into All the various extended family / former relationship possibilities.

 

[easternbayou]

I am beginning to think this was never a kidnapping. The person on camera was hired to clean up the crime scene and perhaps dispose of the body, and Nancy was murdered before his arrival. I won’t speculate on the murderer, though. I think we all have our thoughts, and that is enough. Still doesn’t explain the Apple Watch sync, if it happened earlier in the night, though. The kidnapping theory has just gotten weird and is going in too many insane directions.