AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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Could they be matching the DNA on the porch to the DNA on the gloves found yesterday?
 
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I'm beginning to wonder if it is someone in her family ?????
I think everything released draws away from that theory, in the beginning that would be where one would default I would think esp. given last with SIL, but now there is additional information that seems to direct away from this. jmo
 
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Or even yesterday?? Why now? Have they got the DNA off the gloves? Has the maintenance workers etc DNA samples come back?
I hope that explains it. Just wish the crime scene had been cordoned off from the beginning.
 
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Wonder if they interviewed all people from the bar the SIL stopped at? They may be aware he is related to Nancy and monitored her actions. Maybe someone had been thinking about this for awhile and SIL might have mentioned he just dropped her off.
Was it confirmed he stopped at a bar or was that a rumor?
 
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Great thinking. They now have the video of the suspect at NG home. At that front door. This is a treasure trove of information they just got this week. I also suspect (like many) that what the FBI has from the extracted video was not all released to the public. IMO
I agree. I think they have more than they're letting on. They can't release too many details because they need to weed out the credible tips from the bored weirdos. For all we know they did find DNA in the home, they just don't have a match yet.
 
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Wonder if they interviewed all people from the bar the SIL stopped at? They may be aware he is related to Nancy and monitored her actions. Maybe someone had been thinking about this for awhile and SIL might have mentioned he just dropped her off.
Again, I'll ask. Where is the info on the Bar? I have not heard that. Can you link.
 
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It really is strange watching some of the activities of LE and the FBI at this stage in the investigation. They are doing things that IMO would typically be done in the first few days. Not even activities that would need to be based on any lead, just standard leg work prioritised early.

I don't want to talk negatively about LE, I know they have a tough job and have to manage their resources. But I wonder what happened in the first week Nancy was missing, why the lack of containment of the crime scene, why it took a member of the public to identify the roof camera, why neighbours weren't spoken to as a priority (well, they may

The entire case should have been turned over to the FBI, this was far too big for the Sheriff's Dept to handle.
Brian Entin interviewed a retired Sheriff’s Dept officer. He felt the case has been botched from the beginning and blamed the Sheriff’s huge ego. He said the Sheriff would not relinquish much of the investigation to the FBI; the Sheriff’s investigators have only been hired in the last few years and limited expertise; stated it was laughable that the Sheriff rushed out to Rio Rico to be out front if they made an arrest of the Door Dash guy - said Sheriff should remain in the office to coordinate the investigation, etc. Obviously the retired officer had nothing good to say about Sheriff Nanos.
 
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Wonder if they interviewed all people from the bar the SIL stopped at? They may be aware he is related to Nancy and monitored her actions. Maybe someone had been thinking about this for awhile and SIL might have mentioned he just dropped her off.
Was it verified that he did in fact stop at a bar?
 
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To be fair, it’s not common for data to be recovered from the cloud for cloud-only cameras without subscriptions.

If he knew that NG didn’t pay the subscription for cloud storage, he’d have assumed that, by the following day, the footage would be gone. Same thing if he assumed that the camera was recording to internal storage – taking the camera would make the footage inaccessible.

He turned out to be wrong, obviously, but I think the recovery of the cloud data surprised more than a few people.
It's not common for it to be recovered, and it can be overwritten at any time - depending how the db structured it could be quickly. However, anyone with a passing familiarity of data storage would know anything cloud based is still potentially recoverable until over written. I've been in IT for a couple of decades and walking in front of that camera is not a risk I'd be willing to take. Even if I knew they hadn't paid the subscription, I have no idea how quickly the sector would be over written.

If they were tech savvy they could have jammed the wifi before approaching the camera. It's illegal but that wouldn't bother someone who plans on kidnapping or killing someone after breaking in. Heck, if they were more tech savvy they'd have spraypainted the camera before staring into it!

Hopefully this case will act like a PSA to people to keep their subscriptions active and to not rely on easily accessible cameras for security. These doorbell cameras are great for notifications and such but decent security cameras which aren't easily visible with onsite storage with cloud backups are far better.

JMO but my money is on the perp not having any background in tech.
 
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Great thinking. They now have the video of the suspect at NG home. At that front door. This is a treasure trove of information they just got this week. I also suspect (like many) that what the FBI has from the extracted video was not all released to the public. IMO
True! I believe same. Also, wasn’t it said that she had inside cameras? Going on memory only.
 
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Can anyone here quickly share where the gloves were found? Like in, exact location? I know it has been stated 1.3 miles away--but did anyone ever mention an exact location?

Just curious that if the gloves are related which direction they were headed and what we sluethers can glean from that.

This may help (from a previous post by UR728)
 

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Could they be matching the DNA on the porch to the DNA on the gloves found yesterday?
Could very well be.

Will the glove fit? (For those who remember the reference).

jmo
 
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Hmm could that be from the other date LE is asking about
Don't those images have "altered" marked on them? I wonder if the FBI removed the backpack and gun from the images so we'd get a better idea of who the perp is.
 
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All this time later? If that's the case, I do not understanding the pace of this investigation. They had the video a few days ago. LE would've figured out all the things we were discussing. Why would anyone wait several days to get potential evidence?
The porch stoop should have been tested when the blood was first seen. It's sad it's taken this long .
 
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You are correct. This guy is close to a Mex gun carry. Unsure why. Most people just know a holster goes on the side of a body.
Carry location is a preference: hip sides, back, lower leg, thigh, shoulder or front crotch. There are holsters made of nylon, metal frames and leather for each of these. Front carry either inside the pants or outside isn't all that unusual. Side carry can get in the way when operating a vehicle. It's personal preference, not that side carry is how it should be. Hubs is a firearms instructor. IMO
 
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Wonder if they interviewed all people from the bar the SIL stopped at? They may be aware he is related to Nancy and monitored her actions. Maybe someone had been thinking about this for awhile and SIL might have mentioned he just dropped her off.
He didn't go to a bar
 

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