AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[dogmom805]

Unfortunately to hide the evidence from SA. We had a case in Paso Robles, CA and another case in Vermont. Both older female victims living alone and taken. It's not common but does happen.

I don't remember that, when was it?
805 in the house...

 

[shadowsc]

Many have speculated that SG appears to have resigned herself somewhat to this possibility.

Then it would be for Mrs. Guthrie's earthly body to have a Christian burial.



Imo

But just the other day when the videos were released by the FBI, SG posted that they believed Nancy was alive. But, honestly, SG's mind probably goes back and forth from wanting to believe and stay hopeful to not being physically or mentally able to stay in a prolonged state of limbo, so starts accepting what feels inevitable. So she probably does go back and forth in her head.

I would suspect it is probably a troll, but if I am Savannah, 1 bitcoin would be like a drop in the bucket. I would pay on the off chance it may be legit (as small a % of a chance that may be). MOO

Me too. But quietly. This note apparently contained a name and email address so there is zero need to negotiate this through the media, HARVEY. I doubt the note is legit, but at this point it's almost like what the hell, pay it. But that can't be advertised at all or more will start coming in. They never should have made this one public.

 

[HoveringWombats]

if it was an Ozark Trail backpack I’m almost certain you’d be able to see the logo in the photos and videos. The logo on my son’s backpack (which isn’t an OT, but has a similar screen printed logo on it) glows on our cameras at night with the IR lights.

This is a good data point, and definitely makes me think... Thanks for sharing it.

JMO, in the frame grab from the video in the post below, you can see the Ozark Trail logo. It's faint (easier to see if you increase the contrast) but to me it looks like you can see the angle of the mountain as well as the river flowing through it. It's possible it's just a video artifact, but it seems a bit too perfect for it to be in that exact spot. And other details of that backpack, such as the cross-stitching on the straps, the design of the side pouch, and the reflectors on the straps all match perfectly. But I can't explain why you find that yours glow in the IR lights and this one doesn't. Maybe it covered with paint or marker or something to black it out and that changed the reflectivity? Or maybe it depends on the exact wavelength of IR and the Nest camera uses a different one than yours does?

Still, I am open to the possibility that this is wrong. While Ozark Trail is a Wal-Mart private label (only sold at Wal-Mart), it may be true as others have suggested that the same product is also sold under other names at other retailers. So maybe this is one of those and it's just a coincidence that in this one frame it happens to look like the Ozark Trail logo on there. I definitely concede that it's only visible in like 1 frame of the video, so maybe it really is an artifact.

Photo sources are in the post, but you can also see that same frame directly on the video the FBI Director posted on Twitter. It looks to me like the versions posted on YouTube for the FBI website are somewhat more compressed, and some detail was lost.

MOO, of course. This could all be wrong. Nothing here is verified or confirmed.

AZ Post in thread 'Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026'

Tuesday at 4:09 PM

Backpack matchup.

Product image source: Ozark Trail Hiker Backpack 25 Liter, Black, Polyester, Adult, Teen - Walmart.com
Perp image source:

https://twitter.com/x/status/2021318491077517780

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[su5ie]

Is there a point where we can get over the lantana? Please. Does it matter? Really? In the grand scheme of things. Let the Lantana Go MOO

It's sticky

 

[cady]

Honestly, it looks like someone high or that has an intellectual disability. The gun is being worn so weirdly that all he needs is to also be carrying Big Gulp.

LOL. I think is was to scare the b'jesus out of her. Which, it would. JMO

 

[pulchra73]

Like some of you, my mind is beginning to wander from my initial hunch. I watch too much Dateline. I am now sadly, wondering about other possibilities, like if either AG or TC 'joked' about doing something to her and wasn't serious, and other one took action to help, or one joked but was actually serious? Or, did either one have a lover, that did something to NG to 'help' them, or was NG causing this person grief because they wanted more time with AG and NG was taking too much time away? Were AG/TC having marital issues? Ugh. This needs to be solved and NG needs to be found so the family can be cleared, and have closure to grieve. Either someone wanted her to disappear or this was random. I have little hope NG will be ok.

No

 

[PCHS]

??? THAT would have been VERY bloody. JMO

Seriously and let's think logically for a minute..absent evidence to the contrary her daughter/SIL (which is implied by the timeline) do not have some sort of bizarre violent aberrant history that could allow for them to be able to calmly do this to a person much less someone this close to them..And then clean up so well it isn't found in their home or anything + play dress up in front of the door bell camera...and for what ? to hurry up an inheritance from an EIGHTY FOUR YEAR old?? It just doesn't make much sense imo

 

[steff13]

I don’t think Nancy ever made it home, I think they removed her pacemaker and disposed of it. Got rid of her, dropped some spots of blood on her porch then staged the fake kidnapping.

Isn't the pacemaker attached to the heart? That would mean someone in her family surgically removed it. That's cold.

 

[milkshakedonkey]

That's what I think too. Until there’s verification she physically entered her house, I think it’s fair to question the timeline. There’s been no footage shown of her arrival or departure from Annie’s. If that confirmation exists, why not release something to put these questions to rest?

Because it's not LE's job to satiate our curiosity? Any suspicion that she never made it home is ridiculous IMO at this point.

 

[Chimera]

Because of the black gloves he wore which some restaurants use. And maybe the removing of NG body is to punish AG. Just a thought I had but no real insight to that.

Trying to figure out why take NG out of the home if it wasn't for ransom?

Emphasis mine.
Indeed.

That has been a sticking point in my opinion -- as to who or whom the perp may be ?
It doesn't seem to lead in the direction of either a planned ransom abduction, or a random burglar.
Jmo.

 

[submarine7]

Is the delivery driver that was detained off limits?

Why would he be?

 

[nightowl2728]

That's what I think too. Until there’s verification she physically entered her house, I think it’s fair to question the timeline. There’s been no footage shown of her arrival or departure from Annie’s. If that confirmation exists, why not release something to put these questions to rest?

That's a good point, I would imagine with all of the LE action in AG's neighborhood (and NG's) to collect camera footage, that they would have (or not) footage of AG/TC's vehicle driving NG home, whether from their neighborhood or hers.
I would imagine NG would be in the passenger seat, and that wouldn't be difficult to make out.
I imagine having that footage or not, is vital to the case, and it's interesting that LE has not released it, although maybe they consider it a moot point as everything they've released, that I've seen, states that NG made it home.

 

[Chimera]

Isn't the pacemaker attached to the heart? That would mean someone in her family surgically removed it. That's cold.

Yes it would be.
Seems unlikely, but then taking a frail elderly person with limited mobility from the safety of their home is cold as well.
Imo.

 

[GailAnne]

That's what I think too. Until there’s verification she physically entered her house, I think it’s fair to question the timeline. There’s been no footage shown of her arrival or departure from Annie’s. If that confirmation exists, why not release something to put these questions to rest?

What purpose would there be in removing her pacemaker? Pacemakers cannot be tracked!!!

 

[oc1234]

I don't remember that, when was it?
805 in the house...

Nancy Woodrum 2018 in CA and Roberta Martin in VT in 2024.

 

[PCHS]

Isn't the pacemaker attached to the heart? That would mean someone in her family surgically removed it. That's cold.

And a highly illogical leap imo

 

[Tugb0ats]

because "putting questions to rest" is not something LE does or should care about. that's more like a political motivation.

I’m not asking them to release evidence for optics. I’m pointing out that if her physical arrival home hasn’t been confirmed publicly, that’s a critical piece of information.

 

[HoveringWombats]

Okay, thank you. I just keep getting the sense there's two parallel crimes going on. Based on what I've read here, it takes considerable smarts and tech savvy to launder Bitcoin. It doesn't really jive with a suspect fumbling around in Lantana bushes to cover a camera. Stranger things have happened though, so I could be wrong.

I don't think we have seen evidence that the sender of the ransom note has laundered bitcoin. So I personally am not willing to assume any smarts or tech savvy here. Anyone can set up a bitcoin wallet address and paste it into a document. Until we see them successfully move bitcoin out of that wallet without being caught, I think it's just as likely to be an unsophisticated person than a sophisticated one. JMO

 

[PCHS]

I’m not asking them to release evidence for optics. I’m pointing out that if her physical arrival home hasn’t been confirmed publicly, that’s a critical piece of information.

The man in the mask at the door alters for sure what is more likely to have happened here imo

 

[nightowl2728]

I’m not asking them to release evidence for optics. I’m pointing out that if her physical arrival home hasn’t been confirmed publicly, that’s a critical piece of information.

If you look back at my posts (if you go to my profile) I quote the complaint about the ransom hoaxers and the complaint says that NG was last seen "inside her home".

I agree with you there are still questions about it, and whether that statement is accurate, but just pointing out.

EDIT: I also posted a couple back (this is moving so quickly LOL) that I imagine with all of the home cameras, LE would have evidence of this one way or another fairly easily. Or, I'm hoping they would