AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[pulchra73]

The latest ransom note

Right. So the second ransom note was definitely from the kidnappers and not a hoax. But it doesn't appear that LE took the note seriously since no payment was made to the bitcoin account. Since they don't seem close to an obvious breakthrough in the case, are they thinking they are dealing with a kidnapper and not a killer and therefore they have the luxury of time? I think there is a risk that the kidnapper doesn't even need to "kill" NG. He can simply abandon her wherever she is hidden away with no food and water and that will end up killing her. That is a real risk if this kidnapper decides to walk away frustrated. MOO.

Agree, I think the kidnappers may have panicked and scarpered by now. MOO.

 

[Donswife48]

is 5+ miles away considered the same neighborhood?

Yes. JMO

 

[GoJacks]

I doubt that it's the same guy, partly because of my understanding of the distance between the two locations and the time that the Nest camera was removed and the time that the guy with the two backpacks was videotaped. (Of course, my understanding or the timestamps could be wrong.)

That said, apparently NG's Nest camera is infrared and changes the apparent colors of objects. The guy with the two backpacks may have been photographed with a conventional camera, which shows the true (or almost true) colors of objects.

JMO

yeah if the time stamp is correct it's almost impossible for it to be the same person...

also jmo they don't look alike.

 

[Leilei]

Possible tattoo seen in footage may help ID suspect

Redirect Notice

Getting a redirect notice on your link, do you have a different one?
IMO.

 

[submarine7]

It hasn't been confirmed that the information they provided was in fact accurate though. I do find it strange that once the deadline passed, there have been no more videos from the family directed to the kidnapper. This has me wondering if they no longer believe those notes to be real

I think LE knows she's likely gone and maybe they are gently guiding the family with that in mind?

 

[dogmom805]

Why does he hold the other backup up when he's messing with the gate?

looks like he was gonna throw it over but gate did not open

 

[SMK777]

Getting a redirect notice on your link, do you have a different one?
IMO.

For some reason when I post the URL, it gives a redirect. It does lead to the article, though.

 

[submarine7]

Seems likely

 

[oc1234]

Why does he hold the other backup up when he's messing with the gate?

Only thing I can think of is he is trying to block his face from a security camera. But he seems to swing the bag around a lot to be effective, so I don't know.

 

[cait2007]

If the location of the smartwatch was habitual and if the floodlight was damaged days prior to the abduction, there also are 4) people who work at the house.

And anyone to whom any of the four categories of people could've leaked the info.

JMO

One other category— since the ransom wasn’t sent immediately, it could’ve been someone hacked the police system to get info or even an officer gave someone details that shouldn’t have been released. These days, it’s not difficult with someone who understands technology well.

 

[shonyakay]

The notes contained unreleased information so either they are real or there is a leak somewhere and somebody got that info and used it.

I do think the location of the smart watch mentioned in the letter makes it harder to discount it as not being legit.

FBI weren't willing to state publicly that the letter was legit but them advising the family on direct appeals and them placing digital billboards in different states is most likely because they can't discount it either.

Thus a conundrum.

 

[nerosleuth]

On the upthread there were discussions about how vehicles can be tracked on roadways by flock cameras, license plate readers, and traffic light cameras.

I found an interesting video on a YouTube Channel called Traffic Light Doctor. This short video explains the traffic light cameras that you see on mast arms at intersections and what these traffic light cameras actually do.

I will say that what we all thought the traffic light cameras do isn't actually what we thought they do.

How Traffic Lights “SEE YOU”

 

[VegasGirl35]

Could it be a transgender individual?

I tend to think simplest answer is right, and the person in the video was born male.

 

[submarine7]

Seems likely

There are a few shots of the perp where it looks like what's in the backpacks front pocket area could be a jammer.

 

[Momtoapug]

The quote here does not indicate the gloves were found today. The department said items were found (including gloves) and sent out for testing, but does not give timeframe. Is there another story that says the gloves were found today?

I jumped the gun. You are correct. It says gloves were found in the home. The article was posted today. But it does not day the gloves were found today. Maybe it’s a major error and these are still the ditch gloves?
Apologies.

 

[doublestop]

is 5+ miles away considered the same neighborhood?

I would call that across town, myself. Certainly not the same neighborhood.

 

[cryscrys]

I can’t keep up and if this has already been discussed I apologize but why two dates do we think?

Residents near Nancy Guthrie’s home asked to check security video from 2 dates

Residents who live near Nancy Guthrie’s home in Tucson are being asked to check security footage from two specific days in January.

www.fox19.com

So I just did a google explore search. I did custom dates from 1/1/25 until 1/30/26. The only time her home was searched for was on January 18th, and it was searched 29 times. I am hoping that they were able to find out from where and maybe that is pushing the dates.

 

[IceIce9]

I prefer to be treated as an adult and allowed to make up my own mind about resources and the content they contain.

Always consider your sources:

Fox news: Traditional reporting mixed with opinion-based commentary.

TMZ: Owned by Fox. Tabloid news.

Newsmax: Conservative competitor to Fox. News media organization described above.

The days of Walter Cronkite are long over.

 

[Tugb0ats]

What purpose would there be in removing her pacemaker? Pacemakers cannot be tracked!!!

I didn’t say anything about removing her pacemaker or tracking it. I was questioning the timeline and lack of publicly released information that she entered the house.

 

[TIGER0822]

If you watch the video of perp walking to front door, he comes from the side of the house, not from the street.

Why would a thief enter through the front door? Was the door unlocked? Which door did they exit from? Which door had the blood on it front or back?