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I've been wondering if any buzzards been seen hovering above the desert.
I trust (or hope) investigators are looking for that kind of activity.
 
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One thing that stood out to me was the eyelashes. The only guys I've seen who have those lashes that are so thick they give the appearance of eyeliner are Middle Eastern or Mediterranean. Not saying there aren't instances in other ethnicities but it's not a common trait (in my experience) for Anglos and Latinos.
I have thought Middle Eastern or Mediterranean from the video.
 
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Wow! They probably increased the reward now that they at least have some more slightly specific information. I wonder if the tent today was more photos + using brick count and other means to determine the suspect's height. I think someone mentioned on here, they may have even used a person and had a camera staged to re-enact what was captured on video so that they could compare height and size against what was shown on video.
I was looking to see if LE removed the door camera's frame.. I didn't notice it today. I saw the white door bell to the right of the frame ..but I was watching the news on tv.
 
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This height is atypical/an outlier for a central American Latino male. Average is 5'6 or so if I recall correctly. I've never really been of the mind that he appears native central American Latino anyway. I'm thinking Caucasian, Mediterranean, Middle Eastern, or perhaps non-native South American (Skewed more towards European descent).

JMO.
Hispanic people are considerably taller in Northern Mexico and the US than in central Mexico and points south. Latino men of 5' 9" or 10" and even up to 6' are not at all uncommon in Sonora, Chihuahua and the US border states.
 
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Doesn’t it seem reasonable for investigators to look at the street traffic cameras and see who was out at 1:30-3am? Who drove in that direction towards NG’s house and then see if any of those same vehicles later traveled in the direction away from NG’s area. Surely, there can’t be too many out at that time of the morning.
 
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I trust (or hope) investigators are looking for that kind of activity.
I was wondering about buzzards as well. I hope they send out drones . Ugh. Can't believe we are at the point where I am saying this.
 
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Thank you @MassGuy.

Unless LE can pinpoint that NG hand or face blood is from early AM 2/1, then as I've suggested ^, I wonder if that was blood from an everyday bleed for an 84 year old likely on an anti-coagulent (my suspicion per recent pics).

She could have had a bleed that started when she got out of a car in her driveway - maybe caught her hand on something... or maybe her return from her mailbox where she bumped her had.

Then in this scenario, when she stopped at the door to get in (get keys?), she would have dropped a concentration of blood, likely from her hand. IMO.

There is only one problem with that. Nancy's blood is not yet on the front porch in the doorbell nest camera footage taken at 2:12 a.m.
 
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I disagree. Just 5 miles south of Nancy's house is one of Tucson's poorest areas
My aunt lives 1.5 miles from NG’s home but is not in the same neighborhood.
 
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From the details of this post, they are confirming they are looking for a male.
[...]
The suspect is described as a male, approximately 5’9” - 5’10” tall, with an average build. In the video, he is wearing a black, 25-liter ‘Ozark Trail Hiker Pack’ backpack.
[...]

JMO

ETA - Ozark backpack is only $10.20 at Walmart
been thinking since the video dropped the backpack looked "new" (something about the crispness to it on the photos/videos when his back is turned towards the camera)

but at a price point of $10 it's probably a pretty popular item to track through walmart sales.
 
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They likely wanted to wait until they had a suspect description to go with it. They wanted to make sure the height was right, which may have been why they returned this morning.
Yes, likely but still, 2 days to get agents out there just for a height estimate measurement?
 
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Yes, I read that they were found down the road.
Someone posted a map p, a while back showing the location of where the gloves were found, earlier in thread, just remembered the red line from NGs house to gloves.

We need a map, where all the evidence has been found.

I might be way off, I’m behind. Reading what I missed soon.
JMO
 
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Hispanic people are considerably taller in Northern Mexico and the US than in central Mexico and points south. Latino men of 5' 9" or 10" and even up to 6' are not at all uncommon in Sonora, Chihuahua and the US border states.

Those examples would be the ones that skew the average upwards, and probably have more European DNA intertwined due to proximity to US/Canada and mating habits over a few generations. I don't know how tall the guy they detained was, but he didn't appear to be 5'9/5'10. Could have been - I'm 6'4 so I am not exactly a good visual judge of someone by average height - but he looked shorter than say, most average American Caucasian or American Black men.

JMO.
 
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A thought came to me and I haven’t seen this idea discussed anywhere else.

What if this whole thing did in fact start as a regular old random robbery/break in? Perhaps the guy knew an old lady lived there but nothing more. Then in the process, the bad guy learned about the “rich and famous” daughter and he pivoted to a stupid spur of the moment kidnap/ransom idea.

Say he comes in, finds Nancy, and starts demanding cash but she doesn’t have any to give him. He has a gun and Nancy panics. What if she says hey don’t hurt me, my daughter is on tv and can get you money. We can work this out.

Then the wheels start turning and this fool thinks hey, I could do a kidnap/ransom and get big $$$ 🤑 He’s a bumbling fool though and didn’t think any of it through. He has no idea how to contact the family with his ransom demand so he contacts the news.
The thing is that if he wanted money from SG, NG could have just given him her phone number, and perhaps he could have gotten some ransom money without all this publicity.
 
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You can buy Ozark Trail backpacks at Walmart and Amazon, so almost impossible to track down, BUT I would ask the Walmart on Speedway Blvd in Tucson for all Ozark Backpack purchases in the last 6 months.
 
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Don’t need it if she’s dead.
Why on earth would someone break into her house intending to rob or kidnap her and then, after she dies, hang around and mutilate her body to remove a pacemaker? It's not like they can hock it. Or give it to someone.
 
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Where there is a video with two backpacks, there could be a partner in crime or a very big coincidence.
 

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