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i know in the BK case the fbi used othram over their own lab, no? so not sure that's a crazy big deal but what do i know.
Othram was used for IGG because the FBI crime lab doesn't do that particular lab work. Once that was done, the FBI finished the genealogy work, using investigators who specialize in that sort of thing.
 
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i know in the BK case the fbi used othram over their own lab, no? so not sure that's a crazy big deal but what do i know.
Personally I think the biggest deal is that obviously there is friction between local and federal and by this being out there it’s obvious that the local sheriff is holding things up and frustrating the smartest ppl in the room. jmo

Maybe i wasn’t far off when i suggested the tape measure 🤷‍♂️
 
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Why would the sheriff do that?
Possible kickbacks from the lab? Sheriff Nanos was investigated by the FBI back in 2016 for misuse of over $200,000 in seized funds.



 
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I got this and I got the same for 2025. Maybe I'm not doing right. I also searched her name. There is also someone with her name in AZ who is somewhat well-known. I found searches for the other NG in AZ.




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Yes I've been aware of the other woman with the same name, and have considered whether there's a mistaken identity here. She is well known.
 
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thank you for the response but i'm not referring to reward money...i'm talking about all of these 'tmz' letters, bitcoin asks, etc...SG pleading to the 'kidnappers' that the family is willing to 'pay'. has nothing to do with LE.

why hasn't the guthrie family chucked some money at...anything? i know the answer but i'm asking...if it was your loved one and you were worth millions, wouldn't you throw a few into an account, however fake, to see what transpired?

everything covered here in over 2,000 pages (and on the news) says that once money starts moving, bitcoin etc. gets easier to track. so why not do anything and everything to 'move mountains' to find your loved one?
Hypothetically, if one was actually contemplating paying a $6m ransom for return of kidnapped person (had it been deemed credible enough/proof of life), then one might now see what a public $1m reward for location of and return of kidnapped person might do.

(NOT an equivalency, but as an example, a singer offered a $500k reward for return of stolen pets, and that did lead to someone returning them for reward. So sometimes an incredibly large “life changing” reward amount might get a different response than a $50k reward. (Enough for someone to be willing to betray a friend, or to risk retaliation from the criminal, for example)

But I certainly don’t want to motivate more kidnappings, and there likely many other considerations.
 
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What evidence and why? Wouldn’t FBI trump a sheriff? Are there more details than this?
FBI would trump a sheriff, yes. But a local sheriff's ego would trump the entirety of the FBI.
 
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Yeah, because now is the time to have an ego charged pi$$ing contest fellas.
Unless we are at the finger-pointing stage of the investigation b/c both LE groups are frustrated
 
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Here’s the Reuters report. Prepare to be enraged:

Here’s the Reuters report. Prepare to be enraged:

uk.news.yahoo.com

Exclusive-FBI blocked from key access to evidence in Nancy Guthrie abduction case, source says

By Jana Winter WASHINGTON, Feb 12 (Reuters) - An Arizona sheriff is blocking FBI access to key evidence in the investigation into the abduction of U.S. television journalist Savannah Guthrie's mother,
uk.news.yahoo.com
uk.news.yahoo.com

Unbelievable. There are no words. Intentionally delaying investigation and not using FBI resources. Sheriff's job should be on the line. JMO
 
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Explains why this has been a three ring circus from the beginning.
yes. Also makes you wonder if he has something major to hide. James Burke of the Gilgo Beach investigation certainly did.

Edited to add that a poster upthread mentioned that possibly the sheriff simply used the lab because it was already working with DNA in this case and would have everything together for faster results. To me, that makes a lot of sense.
 
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Oh that’s interesting and pretty significant. I wonder if SG by chance mentioned her mom or anything on the show that day that ticked someone off. What other events happened that day that could have triggered 29 searches for her home. I’m sure LE has checked into that but it’s worth submitting it as a tip.
I tried it and couldn't find anything. Maybe I'm doing it wrong. There is another person with that name in AZ and the other person was searched. The other person is an author.

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While this sounds bad, does sending the glove to the private lab constitute "blocking the FBI from access to key evidence"? The latter sounds more general. Or did he block their access to other evidence as well? I guess I'm saying that this isn't good, but the headline may reflect either hurt feelings at the FBI or the media outlet's desire for clicks.

JMO
The sheriff sent the glove to a private lab in Florida for testing instead of sending it to Quantico. The heading isn’t great, I agree. However, this shows a huge problem that’s lacking just coming together to solve this case. Is an ego really going to prevent this woman from being found? Clearly, they need all hands on deck.
 
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Wait! Hold up, instead of allowing FBI to utilize Quantico. This local sheriff wants to send evidence to a private lab in Florida. I’m so dumbfounded by this Sheriff.

I hope Locals remember this when they hit polling locations
This could be happening or they could be going into blame mode now b/c they aren't doing such a great job either imo...I don't know what is true but it sure seems odd to be saying leaking things like this.
 
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So I just did a google explore search. I did custom dates from 1/1/25 until 1/30/26. The only time her home was searched for was on January 18th, and it was searched 29 times. I am hoping that they were able to find out from where and maybe that is pushing the dates.
Could you share what search term you used for the query? I'm curious now

edited to add - I found it. Screenshot attached, and here is a link to source: https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=2026-01-01 2026-01-30&q=nancy guthrie house&hl=en-us
 

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DBM - responded to wrong post.
 
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This is outrageous. OUTRAGEOUS.
Who does this Nanos think he is?

The FBI can't bring whatever's happened to light when they're being kept in the dark themselves.

Appalling behavior by Nanos. Unprofessional. Petty. Reckless.
Feel free to insert your own pejoratives.
I'm too speechless to come up with any more.

There. Are. No. Words.

*ETA: I lied. There is one word. RECALL.

JMO.
 
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Can you say more about (1) whom you believe had (2) what to gain from her murder?

Thank you.
Just an idea.

I think NG was taken, and is gone, because the perp thought she might turn him in, for some criminal activity.

She saw something, perp thought less risk to his freedom, if she was gone.

I don’t know what it could be? I thought of drugs in a workers trunk at her house, she saw, maybe even said something to perp, he assured her it wasn’t drugs. Just brainstorming.

I’m not committed to any one theory, of course. All JMO
 
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