Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[stmichael]

Glad to see this- I think everyone is inflating this. Obviously we can't see what's happening on the inside and as a public we feel this entitlement to know everything. Our frustration is pointed at LE as naturally people want to find the hold up. If anyone's been in enlisted in the military it's very easy to understand the thinking of an everyday agent to think leadership is slow or redundant. But reality is not every soldier (agent in this case) may know how it's working at the top of the chain.

Nanos is an elected official. He's more like a politician than a general.

He's had multiple investigations prior to this case.

1. During his last election, where members of his own political party called for his resignation, and a Pima County board launched an investigation

2. During 2016, the FBI investigated the Pima County Sheriff's Department regarding corruption and the misuse of federal funds. Local outlets reported that Nanos has held a grudge against the Feds over that.

His background prior to this case is important context.

 

[bajaflash]

For a glove to be on the ground wouldnt he have had to take it off?

 

[ab01]

I don't think the evidence to the independent lab in Florida is as big issue of an issue if it was truly the best option and not a way of controlling the evidence. I really hope that it was the best option for the sake of the investigation.

But rather just all the things when added together makes it seem like there is a clear disconnect between the local sheriff and the FBI.

Like it or not the FBI has resources that a local sheriff department does not and the fact that they apparently feel that local officials aren't being forthcoming with them seems like a pretty big issue in a high profile case like this.

It almost feels like there are two parallel investigations going on.

Nanos pretty much went on a media tour and even did a long interview with a local reporter getting into mud throwing contest with a local sergeant.

And now you have the FBI probably the agency you need most to solve a crime like this apparently feeling like they haven't been given full access.

Not matter how you spin it, It's just not a good look for a local sheriff

Nanos addresses criticism in Guthrie case, blasts sergeant; suspect photos released

Pima County Sheriff Chris Nanos isn’t used to being in the glare of the national spotlight, but he says he knows one thing for sure — much of the criticism

www.gvnews.com

 

[milkshakedonkey]

I agree with you. When I first got the news alert about Nancy having gone missing, the first thing I thought was that someone had taken her to get at SG. That thought hasn’t changed.

Would people generally consider her particularly polarizing or so controversial that this would be the case? I’m not particularly that familiar with her.

 

[nightowl2728]

I can't remember what user was familiar with military flight operations/training, but on Monday I believe, when we were tracking the medical helicopter (which turned out to be unrelated..) that user were giving info on what certain planes might be doing in the areas around Tucson: Live Flight Tracker - Real-Time Flight Tracker Map | Flightradar24

I'm asking because right now there is a US Army helicopter (GOON93) circling the mountains north of the Catalina Foothills and it was previously circling on some mountains further north of there (it took off from Pinal Airpark, which is public use, not military). It doesn't look like there's much up there other than a small ski resort and they weren't circling that but hiking trails and some canyons (and the furthest right circling is around some old mines up in the mountains).

Could be for a missing hiker or training or anything else, but thought it was interesting that it was military. There's another Army heli that also took off from Pinal but went west and then circled back close to this heli, circling over Tiger AZ, which is another abandoned mine with no roads in.

 

[dogmom805]

My guess is NG had a box of similar gloves in her house for gardening, dishes, whatever, and LE wants to see if those gloves match the ones found discarded by the road. IMO

After all the media attention and detaining the wrong man, agents wandering aimlesslessly in the yard, pizza guy going unnoticed, taking luminol photos a week in, and NY Post of all outlets finds gloves on the side of the road, LE goes and locates her gardening gloves in the home. A pair of gloves. Hmmm...... Pure speculation on my part, JMO

 

[SaraSmile]

I'm familiar with Flock cameras, but I am still curious about traffic cameras that don't record, as was stated in the Tweet.

Thanks for the info on flock cameras. The image in the story looked very good to me. LE could recognize the car.

I’m wondering if the county has different cameras. I’m a little curious why the street cam that had an image of the getaway car, wasn’t clear enough for info. High speed? I don’t know if that makes a difference. Any ideas?

JMO

 

[Cassie P]

I can imagine that if he had to do anything requiring dexterity, at least the outer glove layer would need to come off. Tying rope, using tape, brandishing a firearm, etc.

Yes. The gloves would have to come off for certain tasks. So where do the gloves go during a crime? Stuffed into a jacket pocket or thrown on the floor if in a hurry? Set down somewhere with the intention of picking them up later?

I live in an area hit hard with snow and cold. Today I was running errands and noticed a number of gloves/mittens on the ground in parking lots and sidewalks. Also my purse was so stuffed full, I had to dump the contents out and sort it out. On the bottom of my purse was a missing pair of gloves. I was getting a first hand lesson in lost and found gloves.

People take off their gloves for various reasons and then they go missing.

 

[T rex]

It could have a number of reasons IMO.
SG is also a lawyer and maybe she simply doesn't value the notes to be real.
The FBI could have advised against it with some sort of logical explanation.
The fam wants some proof before paying.
Maybe the ransom notes as we know them has been taken out of context and contain not much info to go on, nothing valuable for the fam. The notes never went public.
They said they will pay but i can imagine first wanting to have some sort of evidence they are communicating with the right person(s).
I really have no clue, it's all just IMO

I haven't been much following this thread because it's moving way too fast for me but I was wondering how possible is it that a ransom note was received early on that we don't know about and when the perps didn't make contact or quit communicating someone else started the bit coin account to get them back in the conversation. After all the demanders would hate the thought of someone else tricking the family into handing over their ransom money. This is not my opinion but just a thought. I'm not sure if the ransom is really even legit.

 

[dogmom805]

Would people generally consider her particularly polarizing or so controversial that this would be the case? I’m not particularly that familiar with her.

I don't think of her as controversial either, but she DID grill DJT years ago in a tense exchange...

 

[Normancita]

I agree with you. When I first got the news alert about Nancy having gone missing, the first thing I thought was that someone had taken her to get at SG. That thought hasn’t changed.

This is a very plausible theory.

I hope LE is looking into this and any controversial news stories on which she has reported.

 

[PCHS]

Nanos is an elected official. He's more like a politician than a general.

He's had multiple investigations prior to this case.

1. During his last election, where members of his own political party called for his resignation, and a Pima County board launched an investigation

2. During 2016, the FBI investigated the Pima County Sheriff's Department regarding corruption and the misuse of federal funds. Local outlets reported that Nanos has held a grudge against the Feds over that.

His background prior to this case is important context.

Yes there seems to be issues with him and local LE- ITA. The FBI is also having publicized issues and recent controversies regarding issues with prioritized investigations and their Director's competency has been questioned. Imo both teams are making mistakes and behaving poorly, from what I can see here, and that is compounding things further.

 

[armchairagatha]

Looks like Ashleigh Banfield has posted another video continuing to accuse the SIL:

Ashleigh Banfield Doubles Down, Tells Dan Abrams Nancy Guthrie’s Son-in-Law Is STILL a Suspect

Ashleigh Banfield doubled down on her controversial reporting about Nancy Guthrie's son-in-law, Tommaso Cioni, during a new interview with Dan Abrams.

www.yahoo.com

 

[NewYork625]

True. If they find DNA but there's no match in the database, it remains unknown. Let's hope not.

With all the people voluntarily submitting DNA to know more about their heritage, there may be family members who will match.

 

[Khammer]

Would people generally consider her particularly polarizing or so controversial that this would be the case? I’m not particularly that familiar with her.

I don’t think so. But being a well-known public figure comes with risks, weirdos and creeps is one of those risks. Think of all the relatively benign celebrities who have ended up with a stalker.

This is really extreme, yes, but nothing surprises me anymore. MOO

 

[mickey2942]

Is it possible I wonder if this guy used some kind of off road vehicle. I would think there's all kinds of paths and areas around that desert area that could be traversed.

Now, that makes a lot of sense. Most households in the area have an ATV, it is a popular outdoor activity in the area.

 

[Cassie P]

True. If they find DNA but there's no match in the database, it remains unknown. Let's hope not.

If they have a suspect in mind, I believe they can retrieve any object he has discarded and DNA test it.

 

[PCHS]

I don't think of her as controversial either, but she DID grill DJT years ago in a tense exchange...

I personally don't think she grilled him, he just reacted to being questioned b/c that is his strategy to managing interviews & any perceived poor publicity imo

 

[PCHS]

Looks like Ashleigh Banfield has posted another video continuing to accuse the SIL:

Ashleigh Banfield Doubles Down, Tells Dan Abrams Nancy Guthrie’s Son-in-Law Is STILL a Suspect

Ashleigh Banfield doubled down on her controversial reporting about Nancy Guthrie's son-in-law, Tommaso Cioni, during a new interview with Dan Abrams.

www.yahoo.com

This has to stop imo. It is just awful - instead of finger-pointing I wish they would focus on this case and doing what needs to be done to give better clarity and relieve this poor family of at least 1 part of this nightmare. JMO

 

[jeff2034]

Agree. Showing lack of competence with both FBI and Sheriff department. Could it have been planted later? MOO

I guarantee that if someone is finally arrested for this, the first thing their defense attorney will say - "the crime scene was left unsecured for days - anyone could have gone into that house and planted or otherwise tampered with evidence. How can you trust anything that is found there?"
I sincerely hope LE has not botched this investigation to such a great extent that the true perp or perps will get away with it, similar to another well known case.