• #25,981
Have you seen that video from Ring Neighbors?

That man looks similar to the POI in the videos released by LE imo.

Spotted by a neighbor's camera in Tucson on 01/23/26:
"This guy appeared in front yard about 3:30 am and then returned about 5:00 am. My dogs went crazy barking and thankfully spooked him away. I didn’t answer the door. Anyone else see him in area of 6th between Campbell and Tucson blvd?"
The beard is so similar to what I imagined on the perp. The man in this video looks taller, but creepy close. He definitely looks unprepared without a mask and bag, but I hope they look into this guy further. It’s actually so scary that this kind of thing is happening with creepers coming up to doors!
 
  • #25,982
Everyone is saying “neighbor” but this is pretty far from NG. Much closer to the U of A where there’s a lot more foot traffic and a homeless population. Crime rate is much higher in this part of town than the foothills. MOO
Agreed. Posted similarly. Super cute neighborhood though :)
 
  • #25,983
The ring video footage from 1/23, was that posted since FBI made the request or was it posted beforehand? It looks like it was posted back on the 23rd. I’m surprised it wasn’t already looked into.
 
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  • #25,985
From what I've seen, the last public message from the Guthrie siblings to the "kidnapper" was when SG said that they will pay. How does this relate to what actually happened payment-wise? If no payment was made, do we know why that statement was made?
 
  • #25,986
From what I've seen, the last public message from the Guthrie siblings to the "kidnapper" was when SG said that they will pay. How does this relate to what actually happened payment-wise?
That's what I can't figure out. There's supposed to be an attempt at proof of life, or at least a body; payment, then resolution. But this process has continually stalled and aborted. Without explanation.
 
  • #25,987
From what I've seen, the last public message from the Guthrie siblings to the "kidnapper" was when SG said that they will pay. How does this relate to what actually happened payment-wise?

Well, Harvey what'isface TMZ has said money did go into the crypto wallet but won't divulge amount (there were reports elsewhere that it was around 300$) but...

For all we know, different BC wallet details could have been provided another way and the wallet info provided in ransom demand sent to TMZ could've been a decoy
 
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Everyone is saying “neighbor” but this is pretty far from NG. Much closer to the U of A where there’s a lot more foot traffic and a homeless population. Crime rate is much higher in this part of town than the foothills. MOO
Do you know roughly how far? Google is giving me conflicting info

Even if they’re not super close, could still be worth it for the homeowner to send in. There really does appear to be a resemblance, as much as we’re able to tell from not super high quality videos at night and one with a mask

moo
 
  • #25,989
Yet they're clearly not bothered about showing their face. Does anyone know what the crime rate is in this area of AZ?
That area is farther south than Nancy's neighborhood. The crime rate is higher in the area where this video was taken.
 
  • #25,990
From what I've seen, the last public message from the Guthrie siblings to the "kidnapper" was when SG said that they will pay. How does this relate to what actually happened payment-wise? If no payment was made, do we know why that statement was made?
I believe they wanted a response from whoever was behind the ransom, either proof of life or more information other than a deadline and bitcoin account. To just send money without any confirmation would be crazy if it was in fact an opportunist trying to scam.
 
  • #25,991
Do you know roughly how far? Google is giving me conflicting info

Even if they’re not super close, could still be worth it for the homeowner to send in. There really does appear to be a resemblance, as much as we’re able to tell from not super high quality videos at night and one with a mask

moo


"The gloves were located along North Campbell, less than 10 minutes south of Nancy Guthrie’s home."

Sentence is from the article I linked in above post and N Campbell is shown in the highlighted circle on the map accompanying Ring footage
 
  • #25,992
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Let me show you exactly why AI can be flat-out terrifying when it comes to facts.

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Let that sink in.

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The current FBI Director is:
Christopher A. Wray
(appointed in 2017)
There was no official FBI case involving Charlie Kirk led by an FBI Director”

WTH????

Completely confident. Completely wrong.

That’s the scary part. It doesn’t hesitate. It doesn’t say “maybe.” It just states it like it’s carved in stone. I I pay 20 bucks a month to have a machine give me wrong info.

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Thanks, everyone.
Tricia
 
  • #25,993

Arizona sheriff blocking FBI from key evidence in escalating Guthrie case: source​



NEW INFORMATION .. A glove and DNA were found inside Nancy Guthrie’s Tucson, Arizona, home, according to information first reported by Reuters.


The evidence requested by the FBI includes a glove and DNA found inside Nancy Guthrie’s Tucson, Arizona, home, according to information first reported by Reuters.

Federal officials have asked Nanos for the items so they could be processed at the FBI's national crime laboratory in Quantico, Virginia. However, Nanos has insisted on sending the evidence for testing at a private lab in Florida, according to the source.




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  • #25,994
Everyone is saying “neighbor” but this is pretty far from NG. Much closer to the U of A where there’s a lot more foot traffic and a homeless population. Crime rate is much higher in this part of town than the foothills. MOO
The guy's clothes are dirty. He's carrying a sweater. We have homeless people who will look for any place to bunk. They will sleep at bus stops, the bench in front of the dollar store, on s sidewalk, you name it.
 
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What a ride. Craziest story in years. If it's not the SIL than the family and Law have done him no justice. Not a word of support. I am praying every day for this poor defenseless woman. This story makes no sense. And every day it gets worse.
 
  • #25,996
Sharing more on the Flight Radar topic, as I was fiddling around on my flight radar app.. this helicopter did some circles for almost exactly 30 minutes before landing at AVW (Tucson) on Wednesday evening. Just thought I’d share!
Edited to fix location
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  • #25,997
I believe they wanted a response from whoever was behind the ransom, either proof of life or more information other than a deadline and bitcoin account. To just send money without any confirmation would be crazy if it was in fact an opportunist trying to scam.
I understand, but in that last video, when they said they would pay, they did not ask for proof of life. Some assumed that was because the "kidnapper" had provided some specific info about NG in the prior message. I have no idea. Anyway, the impression I got from their last video was that the Guthries had decided to pay without the traditional proof of life. JMO.
 
  • #25,998
Thank you! I missed that the letters were proven to be written by the perps. I thought still under investigation.

WRT your second paragraph, "that leaves somebody wanting NG dead", I also think the crime "seems" personal but I cannot think of the "why" obviously just given what I've heard about the family. And no indication that any of the notes said anything personal TOWARDS the family. NG by all public accounts seemed like a lovely woman, SG isn't overly political or rude or dramatic, no known other family issues. (Key being "known"). MAKES NO SENSE!! for her to be a target. Other than a robbery for some currently unknown reason and accident that led to her death. IMO....
I'd agree with you if Nancy wasn't missing but there's no reason to take an 84 year old woman from her home. Even if she saw a masked figure. Why take her? I'm not implying she's done anything to deserve anything! I'm just looking at what is.

There are two possible exceptions (,and maybe more but it's limited) but by and large it looks like the person who took Nancy wrote the letters. They included information only they would know. So, are they still investigating? Yes. Is it obvious? Yes. MOO
 
  • #25,999
What a ride. Craziest story in years. If it's not the SIL than the family and Law have done him no justice. Not a word of support. I am praying every day for this poor defenseless woman. This story makes no sense. And every day it gets worse.
I agree!! But keep considering, they've also done no justice to SG, AG, the brother or anyone else either. Apparently no one other than the UBER driver and the poor guy they detained the other night have been cleared. So just not SIL, but SG, AG, the brother (sorry, CG? can't remember his name offhand), SG's husband, brother's partner assuming he has one (sorry, not aware of that info either) have been cleared.

You are right that this story does not make sense and I am completely shocked it hasn't been solved or NG found. LE should officially clear the family if they feel they are cleared, to stop that speculation. I fear they cannot clear them all so they are clearing none. I personally don't think the family is directly involved but I think there is a family connection in some capacity, and maybe that is why no one in the family has been officially/publicly cleared.
 
  • #26,000
The guy's close are dirty. He's carrying a sweater. We have homeless people who will look for any place to bunk. They will sleep at bus stops, the bench in front of the dollar store, on s sidewalk, you name it.

My impression is that you seem to focus more on debunking info/comments by others here than about the case.

Am not trying to be inflammatory, just stating something rather noticeable to me.
 

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