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How many people looked for the clothing items in that video when they went to Walmart this week shopping for socks... Asking purely hypothetically...
 
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How many people looked for the clothing items in that video when they went to Walmart this week shopping for socks... Asking purely hypothetically...
Maybe Walmart need to have a dedicated crime aisle.
 
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Left to right: Artist sketch, NG Nest camera, Ring camera Jan 23 six miles from NG home
 
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Not to mention... it's worth reminding anyone who points to SIL...

He would be well aware of the Nest cam at the door 🤔
Excellent point.
 
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So...interesting. I was just asking AI to give me a profile of bitcoin users. What I got is seemingly incongruent with the bumbling Perp we saw in the door cam video. This leads me to believe that "Door Cam Guy" was hired to do the deed, but not the "mastermind". Due to all the fumbling, and reaching out to TMZ (an entertainment site), I'm also speculating the "mastermind" is likely under 30. They get Door Cam Guy, he'll squeal and it will lead to Bit Coin Guy.

Amateur opinion and speculation
 
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Good point. Bet he's not which is why they are having tracking problems.
Right, it doesn't seem likely that he's just waiting around to be arrested.
 
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Obviously if it was SIL in photos, they would have been identified at this point by family and LE. I don’t understand why anyone would think it’s possible someone so close to the case would be missed at this point.
Thats not obvious at all, just because no one has said publicly they think its SIL, but that doesn't mean privately that's what they think.
 
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Sorry, I'm trying to catch up and find the article where it says a glove was found inside the home as some have said on here. Can anyone direct me please? This is really surprising to me if it wasn't found when her house was processed the first time

EDIT: Might I suggest if you need media link, go to first post, first page of this thread or:

I totally relate to not keeping up with the pace of this main thread, we are all having this challenge. It’s more efficient to go to this media thread than ask people to repost. OMO.
 
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It's an excellent sketch. It will get results. It should be easy too as I'm sure he's shaved his head and facial hair by now. Meaning, that obvious change should make it easier for people surrounding him to notice.

Amateur opinion and speculation
That sketch is worthless imo, It’s the equivalent of using AI
 
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Maybe Walmart need to have a dedicated crime aisle.
Under the circumstances not funny at all. But otherwise, very funny. : )
It may just be that Walmart contributes significantly to solving this horrific case.
What has our country become when 84 year old Grandma's can't leave out their lives safely and in peace...

Amateur opinion and speculation
 
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Thats not obvious at all, just because no one has said publicly they think its SIL, but that doesn't mean privately that's what they think.

I don't believe Savannah would protect anyone who hurt her mom.
 
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Do we have a media thread for this case? I searched and can’t find one — thought we did.

I totally relate to not keeping up with the pace of this main thread. It would be more efficient to be able to go to a media thread to get caught up rather than need to ask people to repost. OMO.
There is definitely one.

 
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I know we laugh about the Lantana moment but if you can forget it being pretty plant life there’s something a bit Rambo about grabbing whatever is there to use as a tool. (We first thought he was just blocking the camera with flowers, which was silly.) Military experience? Boy Scouts?
Landscaper?

Also, it appears that the Sheriff has decided to respond to the lab dust-up. He essentially said it was b.s. but it sounded like the glove/s were the ones found quite a distance from the house-were any gloves in the house sent for testing? Game of telephone.
 
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Some light relief...another camera stealing thief in Tucson a few years ago, but this one is furry 😅

 
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I'm catching up on this.. is there any suggestion of the suspect's motive? It has to be more involved than just money.

Hostage taking. Choice of victim being a national TV personality's elderly mother
-- Seems to signal a desire for attention/wanting fame (infamy). Maybe frequently watches morning television shows. Not great at long-term planning/ short term or immediate plans figure more strongly

Attacking an elderly woman with significant health issues, at night while she's most likely asleep and at her most vulnerable
-- Not confident in his physical strength or abilities

Flashlight in mouth, black nitrile gloves,
-- Someone who isn't afraid of germs but works with his hands and often gets them dirty.

Timing of attack, newish clean clothes and shoes (no stains or holes), ransom demands, and ability to transmit online messages
-- Probably currently unemployed, but being kept afloat by mooching off someone else's money. Caretaker?

Wearing sneakers, strange crouching gate, and overall physique
-- This person likely has chronic pain issues. Might be out of work due to disability. Back problems.
 
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View attachment 644471I think it’s SIL. The outline around the eyes on the mask is covering the top portion of the eyebrows. But you can see that the brows are nearly a unibrow. You can also see the shape of the head is very similar. The eyes are spaced apart the same. And the gray beard hairs are sticking out of the mask, indicating this is a long, full beard. You can also see the wrinkles under the eye indicating this is not a young man.
TC has a negative canthal tilt and the masked man has a positive tilt. They're not the same person.
 

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