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I'm sure LE has SO much info on the family at this point. The "dinner" that night, driving Nancy back, home videos that could possibly corroborate those facts, text messages, etc.
I did think SIL was a suspect early on but moved away from that.
But, it still odd how things keep coming back to SIL/AG's home, questioning neighbors, etc. I don't think it's been said that LE is doing the same for NG's close friends/neighbors (homes she may have been at often, perhaps more often than AG's), etc.
Well, the two of them do make convenient suspects: close to NG, the "poor kids" of the family, creators of kinda morbid and creepy poems and songs, last people to see her.

But if they are eventually charged, hopefully it will be for much more concrete evidence than those details, though.
 
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I DO hope that the FBI agents working this case are long term agents with years of expertise, and not newbies. JUST MY OPINION
 
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It is strange, unless Megyn confused her words, it sounds like they really do want to know if Nancy's neighbours have anything they want to share about AG and SIL. Its likely they would have been at Nancy's home alot, maybe they observed something, heard something, suspected something - maybe not even directly related to Nancy's disappearance, just in general

This is what confuses me and what the Sheriff has just said - its contradictory. Either they are taking a long time to rule out all the family, or they are having trouble ruling out all the family
I give Megyn Kelly and Ashleigh Banfield the same credibility rating as Nancy Grace or the National Enquirer. They are true crime entertainers employed to craft narratives that keep people engaged. MOO. I would not take these claims as fact unless reported on elsewhere.
 
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Well, the two of them do make convenient suspects: close to NG, the "poor kids" of the family, creators of kinda morbid and creepy poems and songs, last people to see her.

But if they are eventually charged, hopefully it will be for much more concrete evidence than those details, though.
I agree... a lot of perps in recent years have very creepy/antisocial social media

Not saying that incriminates anyone, they're just not generally well adjusted people, at the time of the crime at least

There was a young man that killed his ex gf and her new situationship while asleep at a college near where I grew up some years ago, and his social media photos (what was released in the news) all looked fairly healthy and normal. But then once more recent photos came out later, you could immediately see that he was in severe mental/health decline
 
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Her DNA was recovered in her home but they can't say if it was blood. Why not? I hope and pray she wasn't s*xually assaulted.
That was my first thought 😞
 
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I give Megyn Kelly and Ashleigh Banfield the same credibility rating as Nancy Grace or the National Enquirer. They are true crime entertainers employed to craft narratives that keep people engaged. MOO. I would not take these claims as fact unless reported on elsewhere.

Eh, MK interviewed Vladimir Putin but okay. IMO
 
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I actually interpret Megyn's transcript as AG's neighbors. I think AG's neighbors would have more insight into their character than Nancy's. The phone thing is weird, though. Unless there's a solid connection between the two locations, the intruder wouldn't have dropped a phone in AG's neighnorhood. It's all so confusing.
It was like she threw the phone comment in there as something she was just reminded of, that had nothing do with what she had been talking about.
 
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not up to date here but the pool cleaners have arrived to clean Nancy's pool. I assume it is getting cloudy with no chems. They are taking their poles back there. Are they there to clean the pool or interview? I would think interview would be elsewhere. This is crazy.
 
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I think Megyn Kelly said they are looking for a phone, as though one might have been tossed or dropped somewhere in AG’s neighborhood. If true, LE may have detected a phone that was in the vicinity at a critical time that they have not been able to link to its owner.
Right. I imagine they tracked a phone that was in the vicinity of NG's house to the vicinity of AG's house and that phone has not moved from there. IMO
 
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Well, the two of them do make convenient suspects: close to NG, the "poor kids" of the family, creators of kinda morbid and creepy poems and songs, last people to see her.

But if they are eventually charged, hopefully it will be for much more concrete evidence than those details, though.
AG has earned multiple awards for her publishing. If you have a link to this morbid and creepy poems, please list it, otherwise it's your opinion only, or MOO. What Savanah Guthrie's sister and her husband really do for a living. MSN
 
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I DO hope that the FBI agents working this case are long term agents with years of expertise, and not newbies. JUST MY OPINION

New agents don't run major cases alone, and veteran agents don't work in isolation. IMO
 
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It is strange, unless Megyn confused her words, it sounds like they really do want to know if Nancy's neighbours have anything they want to share about AG and SIL. Its likely they would have been at Nancy's home alot, maybe they observed something, heard something, suspected something - maybe not even directly related to Nancy's disappearance, just in general

This is what confuses me and what the Sheriff has just said - its contradictory. Either they are taking a long time to rule out all the family, or they are having trouble ruling out all the family

They could be contacting neighbors about AG and TC trying to surreptitiously gain information by letting them believe they are focused on them when really they are interested in tracking down a certain phone.

Sheriff Nanos said technology will solve this.
 
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I have rationalized the SIL (maybe AG) being involved vs. not. The night before NG is abducted, she has an idyllic night of games and dinner at AG/SIL home. They are presumably the last to see her alive. Still unclear who brought her home. The garage up/down for such a short period of time still bothers me.

We know they are going to be questioned no matter what. It's possible LE believes the suspect has a connection to their neighborhood. Maybe he saw NG often at their home and that unfortunately grabbed his interest. And this is the reason they are searching around AB’s home. The connection is proximity only.

However, I cannot show any serious interest in following this case and not consider SIL (maybe AG) of potentially being involved in some way. I do not think the suspect in the FBI released video is the SIL but that does not mean there is no connection to NG being abducted and IMO murdered.

LE has repeatedly gone back to their home. I have lost count how many times. LE is also going inside the home. That tells me LE has some evidence that is bringing them there…. over and over. IMO
We also don’t have any solid confirmation that she did make it home. We can assume so based on the disconnects with the pacemaker/cell phone data. But there could also be other explanations for how and why that happened. Electronics are finicky gadgets.

Then there was the initial confusion? Bad reporting? Changing stories? about who actually drove Nancy home that night.

And I personally cannot get past that 2 minute window. My mother also used her garage to enter/exit. It would take us a good 10 minutes to get out of my vehicle, and walk together to the house. She was also 85 and very physically limited.

I also find it VERY STRANGE anyone, let alone some who loved and cared about this woman, would just drop her off. You’d think you would walk into the house with her. Check to be sure she has all she needs and that she was well inside her home.

My theory that it could be TC points to he’s admittedly the last person to see her alive.

This masked person in the photos has a striking resemblance to him. TC is 5’9. Average build. Facial hair. Others have spoke about this person appearing to be wearing eyeliner. Look at the known photos of TC. His eyes have that same appearance.

I’m not saying it’s 100% him. But LE should be doing their due diligence and completely eliminating ALL FAMILY MEMBERS first. They’re not doing this per the sheriff. “Nobody has been ruled in or out.”
 
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not up to date here but the pool cleaners have arrived to clean Nancy's pool. I assume it is getting cloudy with no chems. They are taking their poles back there. Are they there to clean the pool or interview? I would think interview would be elsewhere. This is crazy.

I'm thinking maybe she has a standing contract for them to come do the pool? The Sheriff Dept cars are only there because the family asked for them to be there, not to secure the 'scene'.
 
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AG has earned multiple awards for her publishing. If you have a link to this morbid and creepy poems, please list it, otherwise it's your opinion only, or MOO. What Savanah Guthrie's sister and her husband really do for a living. MSN
Multiple awards but certainly made very little money from the poetry or music ventures. Her jewellery business has been described invariably as a hobby or a part time business so that doesn't sound like a big money maker either.
 
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Eh, MK interviewed Vladimir Putin but okay. IMO
Both of them were once serious and professional journalists who did excellent reporting, but since they moved to the podcast/youtube sphere that is no longer the case, IMO.
 
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Matt Finn's interview with Sheriff. Sheriff is clear that he has no problem working with the FBI and that he's using the FLA lab because all of the evidence already gathered--including NG's DNA--is at this same FLA lab his office has used long before his tenure as Sheriff.

This case is the Sheriff's jurisdiction. Sheriff says he has the FBI in charge of Ransom note because they have the expertise. Sheriff says he doesn't have a problem with FBI.

There appears to be a FBI person who is unhappy that this is the Pima County Sheriff's jurisdiction rather than the FBI, and is taking the focus off of the investigation by telling multiple media sources that the Sheriff is withholding key evidence from the FBI.

Sheriff isn't withholding key evidence from the FBI but rather is using the same lab that they have used for NG's DNA and other evidence in this case so that results of the gloves can be compared with the other results the FLA lab already has.

No saying this Sheriff is perfect or that he hasn't made mistakes. Saying, though, that this is the Sheriff's jurisdiction and the FBI is here to assist Pima County in NG's case, and the Sheriff's reasons for using the FLA lab are fine. While trying to make the Sheriff look bad, this FBI agent is also making himself and the FBI look bad. JMHO
IMO no. Sherriff is doing that allllll on his own.
 

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