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I can’t seem to get any “latest” results about ZB on X, which makes me think that’s deliberate and this IS the culprit and MAYBE he is the one who shot himself.
I’m speculating, of course.
 
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If LE is checking Walmarts now, this might be over soon!




“A law enforcement expert speculated Friday that investigators working the Nancy Guthrie case are likely reviewing sales of Ozark Trail backpacks at Walmart stores in the Tucson area.

“If it was purchased new, you can go to Walmart with a subpoena, they will do this, they probably have already done it, and say who has bought that specific backpack in the greater Tucson area over the last couple of months, last six months, year, whatever it is, so now you get a list of names,” NBC law enforcement and national intelligence reporter Tom Winter said on the “Today" on Friday. “Even if they bought by cash, you would still have a record of that person buying, perhaps surveillance video of that person buying.”

The FBI’s Phoenix Office said Thursday that the masked suspect seen in a surveillance video released earlier this week is “wearing a black, 25-liter ‘Ozark Trail Hiker Pack’ backpack.” The Ozark Trail brand is owned by Walmart.”
Good ole' Walmart has been the downfall of too many criminals to name. :D
 
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The mods must be sleeping.
 
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Aw, shucks, thanks! I'm anxious to see what pans out. I need to give credit to who originally posted the theory that a dealership employee may have been driving the car (due to the paper tag). That's what got my wheels turning.

Eta: it was @Devs who made the comment. Thanks to them!
Kudos to both of you! This is a really good example of why off the cuff and outside the box thinking should be encouraged. Sometimes the biggest breakthroughs come from this kind of dynamic.
 
  • #28,605
Thank you. I hope this gets picked up by a lot of media, because it's wrong to keep accusing people of a crime without having evidence. JMO
Agreed, I got it from the MSN article I posted in the link at the bottom so at least it is out there to some degree. I never thought a family member was involved. I can't explain exactly why I felt that way, I just did.

JMO
 
  • #28,606
Waiting to hear. I have a bad feeling about what was found in the Range Rover.
 
  • #28,607
The car impounded by the police had an MG sticker on it. That means it was purchased at the dealership...nothing more.
If this is the same Land Rover, it was not purchased recently and is still for sale. You can see the price history of it here on the CarFax website. The dealer, MG Motors lowered the price to $17,995 on February 3rd. Several days AFTER Nancy went missing.

The last ransom letter sent to TMZ that Harvey read, is either legit or extremely coincidental given that "international" line. Look up those who own and work at MG Motors. And we aren't talking about Mexico.

"The manhunt of the main individual that can give you all the answers, be prepared to go international"

 
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So now I wonder if it was the range rover or the white van that LE was looking into regarding the vehicle of interest seen at the Circle K early last week. Maybe both.

Why was it so hard to track? Was it because it wasn't registered to anyone current i.e. from the motor company?
 
  • #28,609
What is your opinion on why he was knocking?
Maybe knocking for his accomplice(s) who entered from the back door to let him in?
I think NG was knocked out with a substance while at dinner. This is why the
Waiting to hear. I have a bad feeling about what was found in the Range Rover.
Me too. Why hold the yellow tarp up before opening the hatch unless you think there is something very sensitive in there?
 
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Nancy Grace was saying LE were asking about a grey van when doing neighbourhood searches some days ago, fwiw.

 
  • #28,613
If this is the same Land Rover, it was not purchased recently and is still for sale. You can see the price history of it here on the CarFax website. The dealer, MG Motors lowered the price to $17,995 on February 3rd. Several days AFTER Nancy went missing.

Interesting. It has occurred to me that someone working at a dealership and having access to so many different vehicles to drive might explain why LE has never had a vehicle to look for.
 
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I have given this a lot of thought. I am perplexed as to WHY the ransom hasnt been paid. SG said "we will pay". I am tired of the MSM excuses.." the ransom notes might not be real"--- "It will encourage others to do this"---- "Kidnapping for ransom is rare". FIRST OF ALL, kidnappings for ransom are often not done in the public eye. Money is exchanged. Person is returned. SECOND, cartel type kidnappings are frequent, especially south of the border ( not suggesting that is what this, BTW ) Kidnappings for ransom do happen. If it has "fallen out of fashion", it's back. Even for this one case. What is old often becomes new again.

I still maintain that the kidnapper is a celebrity stalker who hyperfocused on SG. Age disparity doesnt even enter into this. He can't have SG and decided to get her mother to garner SG's attention and to have the aura of possessing something close to SG.. They are dealing with a delusional, marginalized, socially awkward man who imagines SG is his secret lover. imo. Someone out there knows this person. Thus, the ransom note writer. Although perp and the ransom note writer could be one and the same. I believe the ransom should have been paid. There was a window of opportunity that, IMO, has passed. The "belief" that others would copycat this is not a good enough reason to have not paid the ransom and the FBI suggests but never tells them yes or no. It's up to the family and resources. Finally,while I sincerely wish all wonderful things for this entire family and pray for NG's safe return, the media frenzy over this has become over the top and is probably only FEEDING the ego of the perp. Pray for the families of the little girls who are kidnapped and barely get 2 minutes airtime on the local news. MOO
 
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And he works for the car dealership in question according to his facebook profile.
Would be interesting to know where Nancy purchased her SUV :)
 
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Credit to @Mack the Knife for his excellent summary of a Fox10 Live Feed

  • at 20:30 the sheriff’s office told media to go to a staging area to a press briefing but by 23:00 they were told they’d only be getting a written statement, and sources said that they were waiting for FBI approval of a statement
  • Fox News reported two men and one of their mom’s were detained not arrested in connection to a search warrant, and reminded that while a search warrant is executed, it’s typical for residents to be detained for the duration
  • The Range Rover has a yellow piece of paper (looks like from a legal pad) covering the license plate, under an MG Motors plastic license plate frame. No front license plate.
  • Looks like the FBI is collecting the evidence (vs. sheriff)
  • The way they’re talking about the three people detained, it seems like they’re saying they were all at the home where the warrant was being executed. There is, obviously, a vehicle (the Range Rover), and I’m aware of a guy with white pant legs who was obviously being detained in some way, so maybe that’s a source of confusion on the numbers? Possibly one of them (I’d guess the mother) wasn’t a target and was only detained for warrant execution?
  • At 23:40 they show sheriff’s vehicles pulling out of their parking spots and pulling back in closer to the Range Rover
  • At 23:53 they share the Sheriffs statement, which they apparently learned from twitter.
  • At 23:53 LE put a yellow sheet up on the right rear of the Range Rover, covering as they opened the trunk. Fox 11 isn’t sure how they accessed the car, but a few minutes earlier the lights were flashing so I believe LE has the key fob
  • At 23:55 they put up a sheet on the left rear side. It was uncovered for 2 minutes while the trunk was open
  • At 23:57 they close the trunk and fold up the sheets
  • At 00:00 Fox 11 believes LE is wrapping up in the Culver’s parking lot
  • 00:09 the FBI tech is wiping then applying something to the seams of the car. I’m guessing he’s essentially “sealing” the doors
  • 00:34 a tow truck pulls into the lot
  • Camera zooms back in on the paper over the license plate. Looking at how wet that paper is now, I doubt it has been on there for very long. Driving with that in any sort of rain, it would disintegrate
  • FBI takes pictures of the side of the vehicle up on the truck bed
  • 00:53 tow truck drives away with the Range Rover and the LE vehicles all leave
  • And with that, I’m back to present time
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thank you
 
  • #28,618
Anyone else leaning towards the notion (whatever the duration) that with last nights investigation this is more visibly a two-track investigation?

1. A kidnapping/abduction where the key evidence seems related to NG's house.

2 The house searched last night where 3 residents lived who may have been involved with the ransom notes sent to TMZ.
 
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I've been through that Instagram page several times and cannot see that range rover. I've tried Google lens with the image someone posted earlier as well but nothing. Guessing the photo has been taken down. Someone else asked what date it was posted and I haven't seen an answer
Try the post on the 6 Feb
 
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Who’s in custody? I don’t have time to read through everything
 
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