AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[honestground]

And he works for the car dealership in question according to his facebook profile.

Would be interesting to know where Nancy purchased her SUV

 

[TheDinks]

If it’s still showing on the dealers website perhaps he only purchased it in the past 24-48 hours. It could have been the dealers who called in the tip that lead to this. Someone dodgy paying in cash, looking shifty etc. MOO.

It was being driven by dealership employee, was it not...

Test drive even, maybe... not a good look - test drive with potential customer and get swatted by LE

 

[Officer Dibble]

Credit to @Mack the Knife for his excellent summary of a Fox10 Live Feed

• at 20:30 the sheriff’s office told media to go to a staging area to a press briefing but by 23:00 they were told they’d only be getting a written statement, and sources said that they were waiting for FBI approval of a statement
• Fox News reported two men and one of their mom’s were detained not arrested in connection to a search warrant, and reminded that while a search warrant is executed, it’s typical for residents to be detained for the duration
• The Range Rover has a yellow piece of paper (looks like from a legal pad) covering the license plate, under an MG Motors plastic license plate frame. No front license plate.
• Looks like the FBI is collecting the evidence (vs. sheriff)
• The way they’re talking about the three people detained, it seems like they’re saying they were all at the home where the warrant was being executed. There is, obviously, a vehicle (the Range Rover), and I’m aware of a guy with white pant legs who was obviously being detained in some way, so maybe that’s a source of confusion on the numbers? Possibly one of them (I’d guess the mother) wasn’t a target and was only detained for warrant execution?
• At 23:40 they show sheriff’s vehicles pulling out of their parking spots and pulling back in closer to the Range Rover
• At 23:53 they share the Sheriffs statement, which they apparently learned from twitter.
• At 23:53 LE put a yellow sheet up on the right rear of the Range Rover, covering as they opened the trunk. Fox 11 isn’t sure how they accessed the car, but a few minutes earlier the lights were flashing so I believe LE has the key fob
• At 23:55 they put up a sheet on the left rear side. It was uncovered for 2 minutes while the trunk was open
• At 23:57 they close the trunk and fold up the sheets
• At 00:00 Fox 11 believes LE is wrapping up in the Culver’s parking lot
• 00:09 the FBI tech is wiping then applying something to the seams of the car. I’m guessing he’s essentially “sealing” the doors
• 00:34 a tow truck pulls into the lot
• Camera zooms back in on the paper over the license plate. Looking at how wet that paper is now, I doubt it has been on there for very long. Driving with that in any sort of rain, it would disintegrate
• FBI takes pictures of the side of the vehicle up on the truck bed
• 00:53 tow truck drives away with the Range Rover and the LE vehicles all leave
• And with that, I’m back to present time

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thank you

 

[sdmike1974]

Anyone else leaning towards the notion (whatever the duration) that with last nights investigation this is more visibly a two-track investigation?

1. A kidnapping/abduction where the key evidence seems related to NG's house.

2 The house searched last night where 3 residents lived who may have been involved with the ransom notes sent to TMZ.

 

[Nikynoo]

I've been through that Instagram page several times and cannot see that range rover. I've tried Google lens with the image someone posted earlier as well but nothing. Guessing the photo has been taken down. Someone else asked what date it was posted and I haven't seen an answer

Try the post on the 6 Feb

 

[Dexxie8]

Who’s in custody? I don’t have time to read through everything

 

[thefemmefury]

My first post on this but I've closely followed. Having looked at one particular clear photo of ZJ's face on Insta ( with their hand sort of resting on top of their head) and compared it to this screenshot from the porch video, I am sure this is the same person who was caught on camera at NG's house that night. The whole area around eyes, brows, chin, nose and face shape matches to me.
JMO

The first time I saw the video, my first thought was the brows. JMO I had/have a feeling that distinctive feature would be important to identification. Reminds me of the Idaho 4 perp (not gonna say his name) and the bushy brows being a feature that was zoomed in on.

 

[Dexxie8]

My first post on this but I've closely followed. Having looked at one particular clear photo of ZJ's face on Insta ( with their hand sort of resting on top of their head) and compared it to this screenshot from the porch video, I am sure this is the same person who was caught on camera at NG's house that night. The whole area around eyes, brows, chin, nose and face shape matches to me.
JMO

Who is ZJ?

 

[Nikynoo]

Who’s in custody? I don’t have time to read through everything

We don’t know.

 

[Brightchaser47]

There are quite a few news reports now that one of the apprehended shot themselves in the head, as witnessed by neighbours.

The craziness of seeing people get arrested by FBI is a story in itself, I don’t see how neighbours could be mistaken (or lie) about witnessing something like that.

It would be quite traumatic!

This snippet is from an Irish publication.

Not to get O/T, but how does someone "detained" in this situation manage to successfully take their own life (and with a gun, no less)?? jmo

 

[franco]

This guys eyes are so distinct. I don’t know how you could know this guy and not know it was him like as soon as I saw this guy is Instagram and videos. I’m like this is the same guy like his eyes is mannerism his built like I’m not saying it is 100% because I don’t know, but in my opinion looks just like him, especially the eyes the actor that give away not the eyebrows though those are very distinct when I saw the eyebrows in the video I’m like whoa is that his eyebrows or just a mask for a while I thought it was just a mask, but it was his eyebrows and when I saw the eyebrows, I’m like this guy is very sculpted eyebrows. This is someone who must be full of themselves a narcissist not because he had sculpted eyebrows just because he was committing a crime and I was thinking what kind of personality he has quilted eyebrows and commits heinous crimes.

 

[franco]

Oh wow I followed a link on X to the MB Motors site which led to ZJ Insta and various photos. I chose the one that covers his face in case the info is wrong. View attachment 644872

He has random videos. Are we sure that’s even him I know he has a lot of gun and military videos of special forces of Jordan

 

[franco]

Not to get O/T, but how does someone "detained" in this situation manage to successfully take their own life (and with a gun, no less)?? jmo

I think they detained him after he shot himself.

 

[thefemmefury]

Not to get O/T, but how does someone "detained" in this situation manage to successfully take their own life (and with a gun, no less)?? jmo

I would speculate that at the hint of LE approaching (be it lights, a knock, etc. who knows) one could be ready to take that route out especially if they were waiting for LE to show up one day. JMO

ETA, this to me implies that the deceased did this action before the remaining individuals were detained. Semantics.

 

[maskedwoman]

So, I was the person who commented on this yesterday. My mom with Dementia lives in Arizona (I live in Idaho) and I had to call APS on her due to self-neglect. I reached out to Mom's caseworker and asked her in what situation would APS leave a card at an abduction scene. She said to believe her when she said she had no clue.

I googled the other day and, if an elderly person wanders off, it can trigger an investigation from Adult Protective Services for self-neglect or caregiver neglect.

Also, you just never know when a neighbor might call to say someone is being neglected. I was appointed as my Mom's conservator and she was really angry about it. She told everyone she saw that I had stolen her money and she had no food. One of them believed her and the county sent a social worker by to see her full fridge and clean house.

 

[Brightchaser47]

I think they detained him after he shot himself.

I would speculate that at the hint of LE approaching (be it lights, a knock, etc. who knows) one could be ready to take that route out especially if they were waiting for LE to show up one day. JMO

Thanks, guess I missed the order of events.

 

[Ltiger4]

Can someone please summarize the latest for those of us just waking up? I’m 100 pages behind. Cliff notes please!

 

[maskedwoman]

And to think I was just about to go to sleep! WRT the traffic stop, wouldn’t they let the guy get home if they thought he was headed there?

Probably not. They wouldn't want him to get access to any weapons he might have.

 

[thefemmefury]

deleted off topic

 

[catpatrol]

13. September 2025, but I’m not sure if it’s the same car, however, that’s where people got the profile they’re speculating about.

He has liked most of the posts on that page (the ones I checked at least), so I really don’t think he has anything to do with this. He’s just a guy with a moustache and a beard.

I was also looking at the Sept 2025 photo but there's a video Feb 6th 2026 with a better match.