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To be fair, many cases make national headlines without being related to a celebrity. An elderly person and ransom notes make for national headlines even without the celebrity aspect.
The ones that have a sympathetic or offbeat "angle". PREGNANT woman disappears, COED mass murder, CEO of company gets gunned down in Manhattan, PAGEANT child abducted from home, PRETTY blonde girl disappears from class trip, MOTHER OF CELEBRITY missing . Ransom notes definitely add to the intrigue Just the amount of crimes sleuthed here on WEBSLEUTHS vs the amount of national scrutiny given by the media to 1000's of missing people should tell us that this is also a ratings grabber for the networks and the length of this 24/7 almost exclusive coverage has become excessive. . and not discernibly productive. JMO
 
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That many cops for a lead and no arrests? I’m losing faith in this investigation.
I didn't think it was possible that we'd have a repeat of the first SWAT incident. 😞
 
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That many cops for a lead and no arrests? I’m losing faith in this investigation.
I'm afraid this case will go cold. 😢 I hope I'm wrong.
 
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No POI so no suspects = no photos of people that are innocent at this time

Thread will get closed for a massive clean up because of it and then we will miss important information if it breaks during that time

Think before you post ask this question , " am I posting because I want to be right when all is revealed or am I posting because I think it will help find Nancy " which of the two is more valid 🤔

Jmho
 
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dbm
 
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I'm sorry but it seems to me that the sheriff's office is jumping the gun on tips. Sealing off entire neighborhoods based upon receiving a tip? What a shxt show. Sheriff's office should turn the entire case over to FBI and just provide support backup. It's making the SO look incompetent. Not creating a good image for them at all!!
 
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This is so disappointing. The amount of resources used last night....wow. I really wonder just how much they vet information before getting Swat and dozens of police and FBI agents on a scene for hours on end.


As far as the media ... they reported what LE was doing last night. The media wasn't getting peoples hopes up. No one should be getting hopeful until LE or FBI comes out and says we found Nancy and we have solved this case.

If the media did not report what was going on last night...people would then say "What are they trying to hide? Why aren't telling us what is going on?" I swear sometimes people just can't win including the media. No matter what they do.



My most important question is Where is Nancy? ):

jmo
 
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Two weeks in and no idea where NG is. I want to say her name but we've been told to use initials. 😢
I finally got some decent sleep last night, as I just had to take a break from this utterly confusing and mind boggling story.
Will she ever be found?
Will we ever be told what happened?
Will people be held accountable?
I'm hardly sure of reality at the moment.
 
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Imo—that was big reason behind SG calling Mark Kelly—she needed someone with some clout to ensure a professional FBI team.
She didnt need Mark Kelly. The FBI are invited in by local LE. IIRC, he visited law enforcement and brought donuts...
 
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I really don’t understand why typical procedures haven’t been followed here. Normally LE investigates the family first, gets them eliminated, then expands the circle. Is he star struck? (No offense) Is he just blindly believing their stories without corroborating? Just because of who they are? This would be a mistake.

We’re on day 12 now. The old rule is they need to find someone within 48hrs or the chances of finding them alive drop substantially.

This going back time & time again to search these homes just feels like incompetence to me. Why not seize the properties for 24-36hrs, get everyone out, search & run every test they need to run? Then release them back to the family.

This allowing people to tromp all over these homes, live in them, etc., while they repeat searches after the crime scene is contaminated seems somewhat useless.

I’m not saying the family has done anything. But they should have ELIMINATED all of that doubt right out of the gate.

Now it seems we have a war of egos going on. What a mess.
This really isn’t unique—conflict between layers/areas of LE. One reason why 9/11 happened was conflict between CIA and FBI over terrorism activity. You can see it in movies and read about it in fiction and non-fiction. By the nature of the job, most local LE are territorial and often don’t work well even in local jurisdiction crimes—like city police and county sheriff’s dept. Because this is (as far as we know a local crime) the FBI isn’t the top authority. If NG had been moved across state lines or into MX (with certainty), THEN the FBI would be the top. For now they are in the “assist” position—the wing man. While the FBI has greater manpower pool, deeper pockets, more forensic and logistic resources, the county sheriff is the orchestra leader.
And it sounds like he is tone deaf…too bad for Guthrie family.
 
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It’s like a game of telephone playing out online
Right?! NG's case brought me back to WB after a hiatus, but I don't remember it being like this. 🤦‍♀️ (Note: this isn't in reference to the moderators. It just seems members, in general, followed the rules better than what we're seeing on this thread.)
 
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She didnt need Mark Kelly. The FBI are invited in by local LE. IIRC, he visited law enforcement and brought donuts...
IYO…
 
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She didnt need Mark Kelly. The FBI are invited in by local LE. IIRC, he visited law enforcement and brought donuts...
The FBI were sent by DJT.
 
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My apologies for not putting the link in the first time. I edited the post with the link for @brianentin.@brianentin
Let me help you out LOL
Brian Entin reported it last night live on Newsnation IIRC. We have no other verification of this and if they are no longer detained, it may mean nothing in the whole scheme of things anyway.

When posting, you should have a direct link to the source, but if it was on live tv, it's hard to do that unless you can find a clip of that somewhere.

If you would like to link to Brian Entin's X account, you need the full link (like below), doing @**** will actually tag a WS member ;)

 
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For everyone getting upset, if police don’t follow up on every reasonable lead, it becomes an avenue for the defense to use when the actual suspects are actually found. We literally just saw this in the Delphi case.

Police are not asking media to follow them around and random people to breathlessly speculate about what’s going on and who may or may not be involved. The only reason people get hyped up and then disappointed is the media circus and resulting latching on to every little detail by onlookers. It’s a complicated case. They’re going where the case takes them. Be glad they’re not just sitting back attempting to solve the case from their desks.

JMO
 
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I wonder what the real perp(s) are thinking ...sitting back...watching all this unfold.

moo
 
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