I hope this helps find Nancy!
I hope this helps find Nancy!
Possibility she was assaulted or ran from abductors. Fell. Unconscious? Concerned they might be charged with murder so they took her.Then why not just leave her at the house?
Last week, several gloves were found near Nancy's home before being sealed in evidence bags by the Pima County Sheriff's Office, and shipped overnight for testing at a private lab in Florida.
Nearly 16 gloves were collected near her home, and most of them were used and discarded by searchers at the site, the FBI told the Daily Mail.
One of the gloves is different from the rest and appears to match the ones the unidentified masked captor was wearing in the doorbell video captured at Nancy's front porch, the FBI said.
Officials are awaiting confirmation on DNA of an unknown male profile that was lifted from the glove. Results usually takes about 24 hours to come back, the agency added.
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FBI says glove found near Nancy Guthrie's home 'matches' man in video
No one has seen or heard from Nancy Guthrie in two weeks. The 84-year-old mother of Today Show host Savannah Guthrie was taken from her home in Tucson, Arizona, on February 1.www.dailymail.co.uk
Yes he seemed unprepared for it or thought it had already been disarmed. If you were going to commit a capital crime, I'd think he would have examined the crime scene beforehand. Or perhaps it was a routine B&E which went bad. Or the kidnapping or staging was being done on short notice.
Good points.Oh, that's a very good point. If NG were alive, taking her through Border Control to Mexico would likely not be a problem. And, it is possible that she may have been alive at that time. Also, going into Mexico from AZ is fairly easy. It's coming back where the agents are much more careful about people in the car. JMO
LE has not confirmed or denied forced entry and said so specifically.So do I have this correctly???...No sign of forced entry? Is that right? If so, she must have opened that front door and got punched in the face..something similar for that blood to be on the porch.
If this is right...why on earth would she open that door and not call 911??? Just trying to catch up and wrap my head artound stuff.
I've had the same speculation regarding a Wi-Fi jammer. I remember those early reports as wellOr he had a WiFi jammer in his backpack and was surprised that the camera was still being triggered (although doorbell cameras still work I *think* if wired into the home and he may not have known that). If I recall correctly, there were (early) reports of next door neighbors having WiFi issues around that time.
This is all my layperson's opinion and I admittedly don't know a lot about how these cameras work even though we have a metric ton of them in and around our house, both wired and unwired.
JMO.
I think some people are surmising that entry was made at a different door, most thinking one at the rear.So do I have this correctly???...No sign of forced entry? Is that right? If so, she must have opened that front door and got punched in the face..something similar for that blood to be on the porch.
If this is right...why on earth would she open that door and not call 911??? Just trying to catch up and wrap my head artound stuff.
So do I have this correctly???...No sign of forced entry? Is that right? If so, she must have opened that front door and got punched in the face..something similar for that blood to be on the porch.
If this is right...why on earth would she open that door and not call 911??? Just trying to catch up and wrap my head artound stuff.
Perhaps you are knowledgeable about the Minnesota state rep and her husband who opened the door in the middle of the night. (Killer was dressed as LE, but still...). Both were shot and killed. Over-confidence. Never has been a problem. ETC.So do I have this correctly???...No sign of forced entry? Is that right? If so, she must have opened that front door and got punched in the face..something similar for that blood to be on the porch.
If this is right...why on earth would she open that door and not call 911??? Just trying to catch up and wrap my head artound stuff.
I agree. I feel like it might have started out as a burglary and she either got hurt or passed away during it (accidentally), so they decided to take her with them.The Sheriff is chatty. He gets himself into trouble when he is not concise, and his own opinion gets mixed into the facts of the case. He says there will be no updates, and then gets back out there on camera talking about the case. I take everything he says with less than a grain of salt.
My own thoughts on what happened keep changing, and there is not much information out there for anyone to draw a conclusion. I think there was more than one bad person at Nancy’s house, and I don’t believe the purpose was kidnaping for ransom. I think something may have gone wrong, and Nancy was removed from her home because the bad peoples’ intent did not go according to plan. I think there may have been a pivot, and everything went to sh*t after that.
But they seemed to go through such extremes based on lantana man to prevent DNA transfer. More than they did to prepare to break in as it limited his fine motor skills for that. It seemed as though preventing DNA transfer was foremost in their mind in the initial plan.On the chance that their DNA would be found on her body, maybe decided to move her away jmo
Then that would mean they never intended to return her dead or alive.On the chance that their DNA would be found on her body, maybe decided to move her away jmo
I think most people are surmising that entry was made at a different door, most people saying one at the rear.
JMO
I’m not even convinced the ransom requests for bitcoin even came from the same guy and it seems unlikely to me that a burglar, only out for loot, would flip to kidnapping. His bumbling nature on the porch doesn’t lead me to think he’s experienced at this. However:But that is exactly it, the person decides to rob the property, he makes his entrance, has his little 'flashlight', Nancy is a sleep. He continues looking around at what he could steal. As well as looking at things, he looks at 'photos', he recognises Savannah Guthrie; ah 'bingo', more then just objects to steal. I won't speculate on what happened next.
Imagine filling a pot hole and getting a visit from the FBI. Oy.It's unacceptable here, too.
Also this glove is 2 miles from her house. Lots of people carry gloves. People who walk their dogs, drug users, people who work in construction. It could be anyone....
Of course with the Daily Mail, they could be overinflating this find. I don't really know if they mean they found DNA on the roadside glove to match one found at the scene, or just the glove itself matches. Everything about this case is so 'iffy!'So far a glove that was found roughly two miles from NG's house visually looks like the common disposable gloves worn by the Nest suspect. Disposable nitrile and latex gloves are like Hondas on the road and have no distinguishing visual features.
It's crazy to say yeah, it looks like the glove the suspect wore when the suspect wore the most common of disposable gloves that are indistinguishable
Unless there is more (NG blood, hit to DNA inside the home) this is very circumstantial at best.