AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[jtfolden]

We do know that he has a competent enough skillset to invade a home, kidnap a victim without much of a trace (if any) to date, and that he has evaded detection by a literal army of law enforcement for about 15 days so far. This is not a naive or stupid person. Evil, yes, but not a dope.

JMO.

I haven’t seen anything that suggests an unusual skill set. It’s not hard to break into the average home at all. If NG had been paying for a storage subscription for all her cameras then we would know exactly how he got in, what he did to her, and how she was removed, not to mention what car was used to do it. That’s not genius on his part, that’s just bad luck for her. He’d likely have been caught by now.

There are countless missing person cases where bodies are later recovered months or years later from spots within mere feet of prior search areas or crimes scenes. So it’s hard to give him credit for too much so far.

 

[loves2readhistory]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2023101856495575189

They didn’t tow the car at Rio Rico stop—
They didn’t take samples form it

They towed the car at the Culver’s stop because they DID take samples from it—and it has to be further examined and kept until results come back that disqualify it as used in kidnapping or confirm it was used.

Similar cars in some respects (colors, blac rims, shape) but maybe not similar reasons

 

[shonyakay]

I have seen varying reports but Sheriff Nanos said the first "pair" of gloves they found was 2 miles away.

Timestamp: 5:50

 

[penguinface]

Maybe because she pulled a mask off? IMO

The Scooby Doo ending?!

(sorry!)

 

[Diddian]

I had not earlier known it, but at about 0:10 in this drone video of NG’s home, one can see sliding glass doors leading from the home to an enclosed courtyard at a front corner of the home (opposite side of house from the garage).

MSN

The room just inside there appears to have a chimney, so a fireplace. I would expect the main living area to be adjacent to the back courtyard of the home, so wonder if it is NG’s bedroom located next to this smaller courtyard and if these sliding doors may have been an entry point for the perpetrator(s).

 

[stmichael]

But we also aren't a criminal who contrived a home invasion and kidnapping (and likely a digitally anonymous ransom demand), and one who clearly had the foresight to dress adequately for the occasion. This almost certainly wasn't his first rodeo, and if it was he checked a lot of boxes.

JMO.

I strongly disagree. This looked like it was his first rodeo.

1. Didn't anticipate a very easily anticipated doorbell cam. $4 can of Krylon spray paint, instant recording disabling, instead of fumbling with latanas.

2. Open carries a late gen frame semi auto in cheap pistol holster (if it was even a real gun). Why not conceal and take it out when you need it? Puts his life at risk with awkward carry and non-profiled holster.

3. Wears bulky gloves that render proper use of firearm useless (can't even get finger in trigger guard, can't properly draw).

4. Distinguishable features on backpack - leaves brand logo, wears reflective strips know to shine on IR so any camera system.

5. Didn't even try to gray-man up or go practical all black and full face mask (which would be much less distinguishable on the IR Nest footage.

6. After all that clumsy attempt at PPE he uses a freakin' mouth light that transfers saliva. D'oh.

7. Disconnects the camera, instead of covering it. Thus making his image the last scene on a non-sub Nest server. Otherwise it would be re-written in the time cycle.

There's probably more...

I've said before this seems like some edgy teenager's attempt at playing kidnapper. All this above stuff had something "lost in translation."


We don't know if he was connected to ransom note at all (many experts now don't think so). We don't know if carried out a home invasion or kidnapping. We simply saw him approaching a front door on cam footage and doing petty vandalism. He could have been a look out, distraction, a part of a crew who did the actual dirty work, or a single bumbling fool that killed NG in his attempt.

As for if he pulled off the crime if it was him (probably was of course). Sometimes it's better to be lucky than good. The house is a complete blindspot, secluded, dark no real cams, no neighbor sight-lines, and the mark is a 84 year old lady living alone w/ medical issues and a hearing aide.

 

[annpats]

Nearly 16 gloves were collected near her home, and most of them were used and discarded by searchers at the site, the FBI told the Daily Mail.


One of the gloves is different from the rest and appears to match the ones the unidentified masked captor was wearing in the doorbell video captured at Nancy's front porch, the FBI said.

Officials are awaiting confirmation on DNA of an unknown male profile that was lifted from the glove. Results usually takes about 24 hours to come back, the agency added.

FBI says glove found near Nancy Guthrie's home 'matches' man in video

No one has seen or heard from Nancy Guthrie in two weeks. The 84-year-old mother of Today Show host Savannah Guthrie was taken from her home in Tucson, Arizona, on February 1.

www.dailymail.co.uk

That is absolutely disgraceful that professionals law enforcement who were searching for clues have just discarded their rubber gloves in to a suburban area.

The trash must look awful, and that's without the danger to wildlife.

But surely it actually causing more potential evidence?! You're looking for thrown away gloves, but you're throwing yours away as well??!

What were the thinking?! How is that behaviour acceptable?!

 

[SaraSmile]

Didn’t they just say cameras were also inside the home

Internet cut, cut cable leading to house.

J MO

 

[MsMatlock]

No, I mean now that it's known the FBI is using a sniffer to try to locate NG's pacemaker someone might be concerned enough to remove it. IMO

Removing a pacemaker would be a major ordeal. The insertion of one creates a 2-2.5 inch incision and the leads are connected to the heart’s arteries. (1 or 2 leads) Probably would leave a bloody trail behind.

 

[LivvyL]

I had not earlier known it, but at about 0:10 in this drone video of NG’s home, one can see sliding glass doors leading from the home to an enclosed courtyard at a front corner of the home (opposite side of house from the garage).

MSN

The room just inside there appears to have a chimney, so a fireplace. I would expect the main living area to be adjacent to the back courtyard of the home, so wonder if it is NG’s bedroom located next to this smaller courtyard and if these sliding doors may have been an entry point for the perpetrator(s).

Yes, I’d guess the bedroom(s) are located at the opposite end from the garage. I also wondered about the sliding doors there and how much could be seen into a bedroom there.

 

[Cassie P]

Saliva, Yes, good strong DNA. Plus touch DNA on wrist, maybe, where skin touched( even if 2 pairs), or touched wrist area while putting on gloves, also Good DNA
JMO

My eyes about popped out of my head when I saw this guy with a bite light in his mouth, rubbing against his inside cheek, and swimming in salvia. When he pulls the light out with his gloves those gloves will be DNA rich.

This is how the DNA ancestry companies test for DNA. Cheek and saliva swabs.

 

[louvillian08]

Unless that other camera also has local storage capability. Also WiFi could have been fixed after NG’s disappearance had been discovered.. it’s not like getting someone out at the weekend is beyond SG’s means. I’m not saying the WiFi was definitely disconnected, just thinking aloud some possible ways the facts could still fit if it had been.

JMO

But the suspect took the camera. So the wifi would have to be reconnected before the camera was removed in order for the footage to upload

 

[stmichael]

We do know that he has a competent enough skillset to invade a home, kidnap a victim without much of a trace (if any) to date, and that he has evaded detection by a literal army of law enforcement for about 15 days so far. This is not a naive or stupid person. Evil, yes, but not a dope.

JMO.

So many assumptions. Kohberger was a dope who drove his own freakin car to the scene and left a leather sheath of the murder weapon w/ his own DNA and it took nearly two months to arrest him.

We don't know what this guy did for his skillset. All we saw him do was awkwardly approach a home without anticipating a doorbell cam which he awkwardly covered with brush and awkwardly disabled while using a mouth light that transfers saliva. All the footage implicates him with was petty vandalism.

Dopes get lucky all the time. Sometimes its better to be lucky than good. See it in many cases over time.

 

[penguinface]

Yes, memory only here, someone theorized She was killed, removed earlier ( between 10-2), it was thought, maybe this Porch person was assisting on the staging to look like a kidnapping.

Someone even mentioned putting “blood droplets”, that part seemed far fetched, hard to do.

Good ideas to mull over.

I’m not a believer in this theory, but it was interesting.

JMO

If the person on the porch was “playing the part” in a staged/fake kidnapping, I don’t think he’d have been so concerned (or concerned at all,) about the camera. He, and the supposed people he’s been sent by, would want his Oscar-worthy performance preserved for all to see.

JMO

 

[Stunned]

This makes me wonder if he couldn't drive properly with the gloves on. Or perhaps he was trying to restrain NG in the vehicle and they got in his way. They seemed thick and awkward. And pondering what would he do with his layers of clothing and shoes? He took great precautions to not leave DNA, but then what does one do with all of it?
MOO

Maybe NG threw the glove out of the car? IMO

 

[loves2readhistory]

How are they interfering with what is going on. There is nothing going on.

I’m

i think more likely he was surprised that the camera was showing signs it was still working because he thought it had been disabled earlier. JMHO

Some cameras show a light when they have power—doesn’t depend on if they have subscription or not—ours does and we have no subscription

 

[K9Enzo]

Vultures

I am sure that I am not the only one who has thought about this, but I wonder if LEO has been monitoring vulture behavior in the area. They are the largest scavenger bird in the area, and often gather to scavenge on dead carrion in area.

I’m certainly not giving my opinion that vultures won’t scavenge humans remains but they zero in on familiar food sources such as road kill, natural wildlife deaths, these critters are familiar to them. A human body is not natural in their environment (of course). Would they notice, yes, but they are cautious.

Also, when people see vultures circling, they are often in their own territories and riding a thermal and conserving energy while they scan. They are amazing creatures (bald faces to withstand the bacteria) and the natural clean up crew that we often don’t think to appreciate. IMO

 

[Diddian]

My eyes about popped out of my head when I saw this guy with a bite light in his mouth, rubbing against his inside cheek, and swimming in salvia. When he pulls the light out with his gloves those gloves will be DNA rich.

This is how the DNA ancestry companies test for DNA. Cheek and saliva swabs.

Let’s hope it is what gets Mr. 007 here caught and NG returned to those who love her.

 

[rosiebean]

How are they interfering with what is going on. There is nothing going on.

I would say that the nonstop barrage of YouTube reporters, bloggers, and even mainstream media reporters clambering for clicks (and trying to be the first to post "breaking" news that is nothing more than sensationalized BS) are doing nothing to help with what's going on. The breathless "SWAT teams are gathering in this neighborhood!" for example would give a potential perp a head's up that they need to dispose of evidence, depart the premises, etc. That's just one example. The media blitz is unrelenting and, IMO, not at all helpful (and this is coming from someone with a background in media).

 

[SaraSmile]

To me, it looked like the backpack was still stuffed with the tissue/packing paper the manufacturer or distributor stuffs it with to demonstrate the bag’s large volume as it sits on Walmart’s shelf before purchase.

No, it had his tools for the job at hand.

JMO