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did anyone else notice this picture that shows a sliding glass door also on the FRONT of the house. It has a lil patio I guess in front of it, I can see a chair sitting there.

I would think maybe master bedroom.
 
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In my opinion, it's something financially motivated by someone who at least knew who lived in that house.

It seems to have some level of planning (seemingly bought a whole new outfit for it), I don't feel like a robbery gone wrong resulting in her death would lead to her body being removed.

This part is very much just my opinion from what I've seen, but I feel like NG was standing on the porch when the blood drops occurred. The only motion to them seems to be downward. Maybe they had her stood there as the vehicle pulled up to take her away. This only makes sense if there is more than one perp of course.
bbm

unless they needed her to open a safe and she wasn't giving up the combination easily
 
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You'd be suprised by the reports; most seniors do not wear the emergency buttons/necklace. (see attached) Medical Alert Systems: 2023-2024 Research and Statistics
The Apple Watch gives older people EKG reading sent to their cardiologist, fall detection and emergency notification, and other heart monitoring. The phone is on their wrist and they can contact anyone in a few seconds if an emergency hits. And it is much more fashionable than an emergency necklace.
 
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I would think maybe master bedroom.
neighbor said on CNN she slept on the left side of the home, I wonder if that is where her bedroom was
 
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Yes, but even chimpanzees use plants as tools.
IMO many people wouldn't have thought of using the stem of a plant to get the nest cam off the door. This lantana guy is calm, casual, not stressed and, in this case, good at quickly solving a practical problem. Still curious how his actions and demeanor could be seemingly so relaxed and casual in the midst of what was taking place inside the house. JMO
 
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That is what I am assuming they appear bulkier than nitrile gloves and much more sturdy than latex. Where does it say they were disposable nitrile gloves? They appeared to be the thicker bulky not disposable ones.

Ask the FBI they said they were different than the searchers which would be latex or nitrile?

The bulky black ones used in agriculture or the butyl rubber ones used for chemicals or handling things in cold storage, and used commonly in cold weather applications when working on equipment which was my first thought and are not disposable.

Seems a clue to me but ok they are on it and don't need us!

I am familiar with gloves in stores I was looking for a link that described the gloves in question.


all imo

edit to add sample non disposable from Walmart [!] but not what I would call commonly used like a latex, imo
Libman Black Industrial Grade Rubber Blended Reusable Gloves - Walmart.com
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Yes I am familiar with the thicker butyl chemical resistant gloves. I use them all the time to refinish firearms when working with solvents like MEK and Acetone prior to ceramic applications. I did a write up many pages back about them.

I get those on Amazon, albeit not in bulk since they are more expensive (usually sold as singles or occasionally a 3 pack). You can also get them at most Home Depot or Lowe's. Not hard to get at all. In that post we talked about how cumbersome they are and how it would be very difficult to draw a firearm and that the suspect would likely not even be able to get his hand into the trigger guard of his gun., and difficult to handle any tool, key, even door handle etc. so it would be an odd choice.

I've seen many articles assuming they are however nitrile gloves, and the explanation give is they look to be layered over other gloves underneath.
The Post alerted the Pima County Sheriff’s Department about the finds, which come as investigators got a possible bombshell DNA hit on a black nitrile glove that appears to match the pair Nancy’s masked kidnapper wore while filmed tinkering with her home doorbell camera on Feb. 1.

FBI officials have outlined three key items linked to the individual seen on surveillance footage near Guthrie's Tucson, Arizona home: a black backpack, nitrile gloves layered over another pair of gloves, and a face covering.



IMO there is no way from the Nest footage telling if they are latex, nitrile, butyl etc. but they look like very commonly used and easily obtainable disposable gloves used by mechanics, contractors, medical, etc. They are widely available locally and online.
 
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I think he was going to use the stem of the lantana as a tool to take the nest cam off. Usually you use a screwdriver or a key that comes with the nest cam but it's quite possible the stem of the lantana might have worked. JMO
That honestly doesn’t make sense given the plant is not firm enough to double as a pry bar, it’s very soft. The doorbell cameras are primarily plastic. One well placed elbow could likely dislodge it.
 
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Sheriff said that they were looking for all cameras in the area but the problem is that it is pitch black at night in this area and not much is captured. Also, houses are far off the street with lots of vegetation in the yards that block views.
Thanks for correcting me.
 
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I think he was going to use the stem of the lantana as a tool to take the nest cam off. Usually you use a screwdriver or a key that comes with the nest cam but it's quite possible the stem of the lantana might have worked. JMO
Is a lantana stem strong enough to do that? I've seen that said many times but I've not seen any proof it can be done. I'd love to know if it's possible to push the tab with a plant stem.

I'd also think he'd have something more sturdy available. A key, a knife, a screwdriver, something from Nancy's house, etc. LE might have video of whatever eventually removed the cam.
 
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To be fair, I wouldn't be surprised if someone did plant the story with her early on to add pressure in the family and see if anyone turned on each other...as a tactic. JMO But it was still irresponsible all around of everyone..
IMO that does not make sense.
 
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