AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[JKathryn]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2023548573347156173

FORTY?

 

[Voidz]

Yes I just made the same comment. Women as part of the kidnapping team could be the nurse, caregiver?

The presence of a female may be less threatening to a female captive?

My family member is a locksmith - recently he had to sort out the locks on behalf of the police for a victim of crime. The reason the elderly couple had a home invasion is because their carer (woman) provided information to the criminals.

 

[MassGuy]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2023553269029892348

 

[MrsEmmaPeel]

Here's my theory, since someone upthread asked what we all were thinking: 30s-40s, at least two. Not as smart as they think they are, but know tech and think a kidnapping for bitcoin might be a wild lark. I mean, they've seen movies, right? Maybe drugs play a part in their courage. No one gets hurt, bitcoin is untraceable. This is Tucson. It's laid back and NG is a semi-local celebrity because of her daughter. They plot the crime covering every detail, but hit a few hitches like the doorbell cam which they'd missed until the last minute. (Darn that dark alcove.). They also hadn't counted on how feisty and yet frail NG is. She fights back, gets injured. And when asked for proof of life, they can't give it. Now what? They're murderers, not kidnappers. Now what?

 

[gbowski]

Yes, it would seem so. But that doesn’t mean it doesn’t match some of the suspects they have been surveilling.

Agreed. But was confused because other reports have said it hasn’t been uploaded into CODIS….

 

[meade]

Last week? I hope LE has already taken a look at it.

I wonder about the details of that crash...

That would be one way to get rid of a vehicle quickly.

 

[Luna20]

I don't know if any of you are familiar with the Adelson case but I've been thinking they have been possibly tickling the wire to see where it leads. I would say it looks like it leads somewhere. The guys detained Friday are definitely being monitored.

I’m not following, tell me how the Adelson case ties to this?

And just fyi, there are loaded threads on the Adelson’s. Take a peek when you have a chance.

 

[SUNchips]

for them to say this is a low crime area there seems to be a lot of people on porchs at night ...

None of these other crimes posted from the Ring app were “in the area” at all. They were miles away in a way worse, more dense part of Tucson. Where Nancy lives is a very nice, affluent neighborhood with very low crime. this is all completely my own opinion and experience from living all over the city of Tucson.

 

[Officer Dibble]

My family member is a locksmith - recently he had to sort out the locks on behalf of the police for a victim of crime. The reason the elderly couple had a home invasion is because their carer (woman) provided information to the criminals.

Is no-one safe anymore in their own home?

 

[stmichael]

They’re getting hot

Interesting. How did they come up with a list of the 40 thieves?

Being smart azzy, I was going to suggest they should be checking with W-mart. I checked online and they do selll rifles and shotguns, but no handguns.

Amateur opinion and speculation

AZ is a constitutional carry state (permit-less carry) with private FTF sales being perfectly legal.

You can buy a handgun from an private person and do not need a background check or any paperwork or even need to know their name.

Both the buyer and the seller must be AZ residents. The seller must not have reason to believe the buyer is a prohibited person. Many states are like this with FTF private sales.

So you don't need to go to gun store and fill out a 4473 to buy a handgun in AZ (or many other states for that matter).

 

[EJB123456]

And they are all wearing backpacks

It’s a college town. A large one.

 

[Orion96007]

Yeah, id hate to see a high crime area on camera if this is low crime. What the heck?

[I keep thinking to myself "What are the odds of that many people in sweaters and backpacks at 2am in back yards".... Hell, it seems like this is a group of employees with uniforms being sent out to do stuff at 2am.... I cannot wrap my head around it. Note to self: Not interested in living anywhere near this neighborhood ]

IMO, just agreeing with you

 

[rosesfromangels]

If they are the perps, I'm hoping they will make a mistake. JMO

They will get ratted out for the money.

Amateur opinion and speculation

 

[osu]

If she had a fender bender, AG would have worked with NG to get it fixed as soon as possible, I would think. Guessing that if she had a fender bender, it was recent. JMO

Right. Her Subaru was brand new, a 2025/2026, so even more reason to want to have it repaired right away.

JMO

 

[Jenesaisquoi]

Could Nancy’s blood have been from a stress nosebleed, rather than a deliberate injury?
I know children can bleed profusely due to spontaneous nosebleeds, but haven’t actually heard of elderly people suffering from similar.

 

[Sakura2Sophia4Lucia]

Yeah, id hate to see a high crime area on camera if this is low crime. What the heck?

LE are always telling people to lock their car doors and stop making it so easy for criminals, and it was interesting to see the guy see if the car was locked.

This is thought to be a low crime area. Maybe it doesn't have a lot of crime reported because the criminals aren't getting caught stealing cars or mail.

JMO

 

[submarine7]

What they are doing while being monitored is far less interesting than what they have been doing since Jan 31.

Amateur opinion and speculation

True, and the idea is that after they are detained and released they will start contacting any coconspirators (if there are any) or perhaps reveal a location that will enable me to answer that bigger question.

 

[Sakura2Sophia4Lucia]

Could Nancy’s blood have been from a stress nosebleed, rather than a deliberate injury?
I know children can bleed profusely due to spontaneous nosebleeds, but haven’t actually heard of elderly people suffering from similar.

We have heard on this thread that she is on blood thinners. If you get a nick or cut when you're on blood thinners, you can bleed quite a bit. JMO

 

[PacoElFlaco]

[I keep thinking to myself "What are the odds of that many people in sweaters and backpacks at 2am in back yards".... Hell, it seems like this is a group of employees with uniforms being sent out to do stuff at 2am.... I cannot wrap my head around it. Note to self: Not interested in living anywhere near this neighborhood ]

IMO, just agreeing with you

Sounds like a big Cartel-backed kidnapping ring casing houses in a rich American neighborhood.

 

[birdbox]

Were there motion lights outside her garage? Who actually dropped her off? Did they help her inside? Did she leave a porch light on? Did the driver just sit in the car with headlights on to guide her and then drive off?? Has this already been discovered?

LE are always telling people to lock their car doors and stop making it so easy for criminals, and it was interesting to see the guy see if the car was locked.

This is thought to be a low crime area. Maybe it doesn't have a lot of crime reported because the criminals aren't getting caught stealing cars or mail.

JMO

There are plenty of 'would be" criminals. And plenty of trespassers, that's for sure. Really creepy.