AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[UsernameRequired]

Some former FBI dude on a podcast said that the perp wasn’t sophisticated because they shopped at Walmart. Um, where do they think people shop? He intimated that the car couldn’t have belonged to them because it was expensive and the perp shops at Walmart. I swear some of these people are completely out of touch with reality. How many stores do they think are out there outside of shopping online? If you’re getting supplies to commit crimes, I doubt you’re going to buy the stuff from boutiques. You could theorize that the person breaking in is not economically well off because a wealthy person would be less likely to commit robbery, but we don’t even know that it was robbery. It could be SA, or a murder for hire. Some of these talking heads, I swear.

JMO, it's not about economic status but this belief from LE is because Walmart (and other big box stores) have a very sophisticated SKU tracking system, purchase records, etc., along with hi-tech camera systems throughout all their stores that can often pin point who purchased the backpack. This process was used to help narrow and track down Kohberger and prove his purchase of the K-Bar knife from Amazon.

 

[m00c0w]

Dang. They're no even back tracing 4473s (I guess they really don't have cause) but asking gun stores voluntarily (none where I live would give that up, that's a big can of civil liberty worms right there).

Very curious how they compiled the list. Very.

Again, if I was Mr. Latanas I would not have bought the gun in a gun shop, much easier untraceable legal ways to do it in AZ.

I’m not sure what you mean by “back-tracing 4473s”… this is basically what they’re doing. 4473s are paper forms retained by dealers. The only “tracing” that can be done is with a serial number and hopping from manufacturer to 4473 to 4473.

I’m also not sure how effective refusing compliance would be… probably just wind up with an ATF agent showing up to inspect your records and at that point you’d better start praying nothing is amiss.

JMO

 

[GuyfromCanada]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2023870751628296276

Here’s them on the way out,

https://twitter.com/x/status/2023872477567631785

 

[SMK777]

Then ignore it. I posted it for perspective on this case.

Oh, I'm sorry; I actually do get it.
I myself mention the Kohburger case, the Summer Wells case, the Clutter murders to give perspective on this case, as well.

I wasn't being snarky-- I actually just didn't get the point you were making. Let me go back and read. APOLOGIES for the misunderstanding

 

[imstilla.grandma]

The Pima County Sheriff's Department said the evidence was submitted to a lab in Florida and to national DNA database CODIS (Combined DNA Index System) Tuesday morning. The sheriff's department said there were no DNA hits in CODIS.

The National DNA Index (NDIS) has over 19.2 million offender profiles, 6.1 million arrestee profiles and 1.4 million forensic profiles as of November, according to the FBI. Under the DNA Identification Act of 1994, data on convicted offenders, arrestees and detainees may be maintained in NDIS.

Nancy Guthrie update: New clue on who's behind disappearance

Nancy Guthrie's disappearance has prompted a multiagency search involving local law enforcement and the FBI.

www.newsweek.com

We’re hopeful that we’re always getting closer, but the news now, I think, is we had heard this morning that, of course, the DNA on the glove that was found two miles away was submitted for CODIS,” Nanos said. “And I just heard that CODIS had no hits.” The sheriff added that separate DNA found in Guthrie’s home also did not result in any hits from the CODIS database

DNA Results Provide Shocking Update in Nancy Guthrie Case

Investigators analyzed the genetic material from a glove found near Nancy Guthrie’s Tucson home.

www.thedailybeast.com

 

[submarine7]

I’m not sure what you mean by “back-tracing 4473s”… this is basically what they’re doing. 4473s are paper forms retained by dealers. The only “tracing” that can be done is with a serial number and hopping from manufacturer to 4473 to 4473.

I’m also not sure how effective refusing compliance would be… probably just wind up with an ATF agent showing up to inspect your records and at that point you’d better start praying nothing is amiss.

JMO

Where I live many many criminals make their own guns.

 

[Sessiebo]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2023872882842259489

 

[Cloudydiamond]

They can call me! OR~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~TIME TO CALL IN THE PSYCHICS! or listen to psychics that call in. Law enforcement does use them. There was a case of a kidnaping in the 70's near me. The little girl was missing from a neighboring town. They brought in a psychic. he not only found the girl's clothing stashed in a cemetery but brought them right to the body in a wooded area a mile away from there. They immediately put the psychic on a lie detector and he passed. Some time later, the real perp was found. Bring em on! JMO

 

[Scooby-Doo]

I think they don't want to get involved at this stage

 

[Laura Avery]

I'd imagine they are just questioning a witness again, going over statements. At this point, Im not sure its worth getting too committed to this info.

Had an idea for a scenario, possibly. Man rings door bell, then uses flowers to obsure camera. Nancy answers, "Who's there?", he then reveals himself (Removes the flowers) and shows her the gun, forcing her to open the door or shoot her through it? Still working on a motive.

 

[steff13]

I'm thinking that accomplice did all the dirty work inside. jmo

If there was an accomplice inside the house, how did they get in without being on camera? Why didn't the guy on camera enter the same way? If they wanted to go out the front door couldn't they have reached out the front door to block the camera so it didn't see them at all as they removed it?

 

[warp3dwing]

Then ignore it. I posted it for perspective on this case.

I thought it was useful context for how tightly LE will hold their cards up to the very end. Thanks for sharing. Anyway, a good sleuther can easily go back and see where the whole thread started instead of being passive aggressive about it. JMO

 

[m00c0w]

Where I live many many criminals make their own guns.

Yeah, I’d consider the possibility if he didn’t have what looked like a commercially available firearm on him in the video. JMO

 

[Hippiechic]

If I lived in that neighborhood. I would be so ticked off with the amount of people. Lawdy lol

 

[stmichael]

Also, I'm sure someone purchasing items to commit a crime doesn't give a crap whether those items are boujee or stylish. They probably are more concerned with easy availability and choosing common items that many people would own.

I think most contentions are that they were impractical and incongruous. It's not about criminal chic but rather use and dependability and informed choices. Everything about this guy was unnecessarily over-convoluted.

--All that PPE yet use a saliva transferring bite light in your mouth?? Yeesh. Just stick a 23 and me swab in there while you're at it.

--Mismatched holster with awkward off the belt loop approx. of appendix carry--that gun would fumble right out if he had to move quickly or run. That cheap mismatched holster a great disadvantage if encountered by anyone. So it was basically just for looks or a place to put the gun (conceal carry would be much simpler and more effective).

--Bulky nitrile gloves (or double gloved) huge disadvantage in using the firearm, provided he can even fit his finger in the trigger guard. Awkward for general use and handling things (i.e. removing the camera, fumbling with the Latanas.)

--Identifiable cheap backpack. ? - well, at least cover the brand, etc. which is now one of the biggest leads as it is exclusively sold by one store. Reflective strips on the backpack, what are you trying to glow on the IR night cams everyone has these days?? Cheap. you trust it to put your kit in there you have it stuffed full, those cheapos burst seams all the time, spilling your kit into the night. Even hikers would not trust that pack on a trail, much less some criminal nights op.

There's a reason pros (of all sorts, hikers, mil, LEO, gun guys, ranchers) use quality gear and it ain't for style points its for dependability and function.

 

[submarine7]

Yeah, I’d consider the possibility if he didn’t have what looked like a commercially available firearm on him in the video. JMO

Thank you I know nothing about guns.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

(
(NewsNation) — Investigators are using a signal sniffer device in the search for Nancy Guthrie, in hopes of detecting a signal from her pacemaker.

Guthrie’s pacemaker disconnected from her phone in the hours before she was reported missing on Feb. 1, and law enforcement officers have deployed the signal sniffer as the search has entered a third week.

The fact that Guthrie’s pacemaker stopped communicating with her phone does not mean that something was wrong with the device. Pacemakers are designed to continue working when not connected to monitoring devices like phones

How is a signal sniffer being used in Nancy Guthrie search?

Investigators are using signal sniffer to try to detect Nancy Guthrie’s pacemaker.

www.newsnationnow.com

 

[Former Reporter]

People are not allowed to watch him? I do not understand what is not allwoed?

He is an unapproved source and therefore you cannot post links to his content or quote him as fact. You can certainly watch him, you just can't talk about him here.

Edited to add link to rules about sourcing here, and there's also a link further down on the page: Rules - Etiquette & Information

 

[Derdew]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2023870751628296276

https://twitter.com/x/status/2023872477567631785

I wonder if these are the same men who were in Nancy house per Brian entin. Maybe the family’s PI?

 

[PayrollNerd]

If the perp were born in another country would Codis have his DNA in their database if he had committed a previous crime here and was detained?

It depends on the level of the crime and what state. Our friend Google AI says…..

In Arizona, DNA is not collected from every person arrested, but rather mandated for specific, serious offenses. Under A.R.S. § 13-610, DNA testing applies to felony arrests, particularly violent or sexual crimes. While some states require DNA for all felonies, Arizona generally limits collection to felonies and select, serious offenses.