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I can't believe the interest in the neighbor's camera on day what? 16. I would have thought that would be first day.
A significant amount of snowbirds in that area. Simply could have been in another location at the time.
 
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is it possible the FBI has connected transactions to the holster already and that’s why they are going around with drivers license photos to the gun shops to see if they bought a gun there?

MOO
How? There is no way from that IR Nest cam footage they can discern what brand of holster that is or when it was purchased. Those nylon universal holsters are always seen in $5 gun store bins and yard sales. They used to be more popular decades ago. It's quit possible (likely really) that he legally purchased a gun outside of a gun store scenario or even illegally. Maybe they have a list of people who bought Walmart exclusive backpacks and similar holsters in the same purchase but even that proves nothing and is a stretch.
 
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During an active missing person investigation? When they immediately called in homicide detectives? Not directing this towards you. My brain just won't make it make sense. JMO, MOO, etc.
My mind went to the amount of blood indicated a murder
 
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If she’s passed away, does it still generate a signal? I would try over the landfill and outskirts of the desert at this point.
Sadly, that’s what I now believe.
 
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DBM - duplicate
 
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Dr Martinelli explains that DNA recovery from gloves depends heavily on how they were removed – and whether biological material was preserved inside. "You're going to get the DNA from inside of the glove, not outside of the glove," he says. "It really depends on how the person removes the gloves."

If latex gloves are pulled off in a way that turns them inside out, the interior – where sweat and skin oils are present – may be better preserved. "When you sweat, you sweat water and you also sweat oil," he explains. "So we can definitely get DNA from that."

He notes that even if initial testing did not produce a match, advances in forensic science mean evidence can continue yielding results long after it is first collected.

You're starting to see now cases that are 30 years old that could not be solved before are now being solved because they're running the cold case DNAs through the new DNA technology," he says.

Beyond standard DNA comparisons, Dr Martinelli points to the growing role of genealogy databases in modern investigations.

"With genealogy, you may not get the person, but you're going to get a relative of the person," he says. "And then that really narrows down your search." He adds that the key step will be ensuring any viable DNA is submitted to the FBI’s CODIS database.
My experience with DNA. My son took a DNA test to see his heritage. Sent it in results, they came back with second cousins with family tree surnames I didn't recognize. I had my dad take a test to see which side of the family these unknown people were part of- mine or my husbands. Me, being the family historian just knew it was my husbands side. But... my dad and son did not match. I then sent my DNA in, same results of course, no match to my dad. I am what is referred to as an NPE- not parent expected.
I had a genealogist help me. Using second cousins she built my tree in less than two weeks. I had a name.

This is the point I usually do my PSA, if you are inclined to take a DNA test, do not click relative finder unless you can handle any possible changes to your family tree.
 
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How? There is no way from that IR Nest cam footage they can discern what brand of holster that is or when it was purchased. Those nylon universal holsters are always seen in $5 gun store bins and yard sales. They used to be more popular decades ago. It's quit possible (likely really) that he legally purchased a gun outside of a gun store scenario or even illegally. Maybe they have a list of people who bought Walmart exclusive backpacks and similar holsters in the same purchase but even that proves nothing and is a stretch.

I think it’s just a lead they have to follow up on. They get names tied to the purchases and look at their DL photos and see a resemblance to the nest perp. It’s gum shoe detective work.
 
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My mind went to the amount of blood indicated a murder
This is one of the things that has stuck out to me. If the investigators thought it might be a kidnapping, then why have homicide detectives at the house?
 
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If she’s passed away, does it still generate a signal? I would try over the landfill and outskirts of the desert at this point.
Yes it emits a signal for up to 10 years or more.
 
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This is one of the things that has stuck out to me. If the investigators thought it might be a kidnapping, then why have homicide detectives at the house?
Often these types of cases end up as homicides. It makes sense to call them from jump so they can look at the scene while it's fresh and offer their expertise. I'm assuming there was blood in the house and signs of a struggle, which indicated Nancy didn't wander off on her own.
 
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YouTube is back up so we will be doing a livestream in a few minutes at 10:30 PM EASTERN. Hope you will join us
 
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Looks like it might be a pinky ring or an initial ring. JMO. I kept trying to see the left hand, when the tape and photos were released to see if there was a wedding band.
The ring is very important or they could not get it off their finger! I go with the latter! jmo
 
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I'm just curious why investigators were looking at the neighbor's camera not until now. A Ring floodlight camera is pretty obvious. The ones I've seen have a camera appendage separate from the lamps. With the huge focus on trying to get video footage why is this coming up now?
 
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Don’t anyone read this and think it’s true. I’m just asking because I want clarity. Am I understanding that the glove DNA was not in codis but they haven’t said the DNA from inside the house is not in codis is that correct?
Again, I don’t know that this is true just looking to understand.
The sheriff said in an interview today the DNA found in the house is not in CODIS
 
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IMO, it's pretty worrisome that they are looking at a next door neighbor's camera so late in the game. This makes me concerned that they have missed a lot of opportunities to collect relevant evidence.

Also, most new cameras record to the cloud and if they have local recording they have a MicroSD card. I'm sure most of NG's neighbor's would have voluntarily provided access to pertinent recordings on day one. Unfortunately, by now both cloud and locally stored video have had opportunity to be overwritten and lost. You can not recover video on a SD card that had been overwritten. Deleted, yes probably, but not files which are already overwritten.
These neighbors may have been out of the country and were only recently able to check their video. Only an idea — speculation. JMO.
 
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If anyone remembers the guy interviewed at least twice, who some people in this thread found a tad suspicious, and who was calling himself a “neighbour” while trying to push the blame on TC, there appears to be someone in Tucson with the same first name as him and whose last name relates to Friday night’s SWAT events. Could be complete coincidence, of course, but if so, it’s an interesting one all the same.

JMO
I must've missed the interviews. Does anybody have a link to one or both? Tia
 

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