AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[aamillaa]

So many weird inconsistencies in this case. I think that’s what’s bothering me. We all expect LE to be tight lipped and only share info when something is needed from the public. We all expect LE to have more than they let on.

I think this case is bothering me because there seems to be no info and too much info at the same time.

For example:
*PCSD stating no press conferences bc there’s no significant updates. Make sense. But then why is Nanos doing all these one on ones?
*As been discussed, the lack of community searches, family appeals to public, etc. On one hand, this could have something to do with LE feeling that may not be the right move based on what they know about the crime. BUT SG’s one video to the public was pleading for info from the public.
*The whole “this scene has been processed” while we’ve all seen so many searches with crime scene tape going up and down
*Not releasing info we’d expect to have - like what NG may have been wearing, etc but daily updates on the gloves/dna testing


It’s just all so odd. Idk what to think. the confusion/ego match between FBI and Nanos, as reported? Investigation strategy based on spooking the perp? Something left at the scene initially (maybe a note) that led them to realize they needed to have this specific strategy?

I don’t know what to make of any of it. I’m out of theories because I can’t even figure out what info is factual and what isn’t.

MOO

 

[SMK777]

Viewer questions about Nancy Guthrie case answered

Viewer questions about Nancy Guthrie case answered

NewsNation has been collecting a number of questions from viewers about the case ahead of our special report this Saturday.

www.newsnationnow.com

 

[heli]

no additional video recovered

Nancy Guthrie kidnapping probe may see resources scaled back as leads come up empty: Sources

Investigators looking into the kidnapping of Nancy Guthry believe the case would soon have to move into a new phase with fewer dedicated resources, sources told ABC News.

www.goodmorningamerica.com

 

[FaviousM]

no additional video recovered

Nancy Guthrie kidnapping probe may see resources scaled back as leads come up empty: Sources

Investigators looking into the kidnapping of Nancy Guthry believe the case would soon have to move into a new phase with fewer dedicated resources, sources told ABC News.

www.goodmorningamerica.com

I wonder if that's something LE confirmed to them or that the outlet is just assuming there isn't any additional footage as it's not been released to the public

Edit: Re-reading it, yeah it's very discouraging assuming their LE sources are legit, which I've no reason to doubt

 

[SMK777]

no additional video recovered

Nancy Guthrie kidnapping probe may see resources scaled back as leads come up empty: Sources

Investigators looking into the kidnapping of Nancy Guthry believe the case would soon have to move into a new phase with fewer dedicated resources, sources told ABC News.

www.goodmorningamerica.com

Yes, the headline is very discouraging:

Nancy Guthrie kidnapping probe may see resources scaled back as leads come up empty: Sources

 

[Gunther Toody]

In other words...the case is going cold.

 

[aamillaa]

In the article I was reading off-site, it was stated that the Sheriff effectively shut out the FBI from the case and is not sharing information. This is outrageous if true, but I will treat it as speculation. Other local LE have commented that he is on an ego trip and that is why he is the only spokesperson and doing his one-on-one interviews with the media.

In any case, this is not the best look in such a high profile investigation. MOO

I tend to think that’s probably the case because it seems like PCSD and FBI are conducting two totally separate investigations.

It’s shocking to me that LE is able to freeze out the FBI. I think FBI has jurisdiction over ransom and kidnapping across state lines. But not burglary or murder…. Which does make me wonder if PCSD isn’t considering the ransom notes/kidnapping legit but FBI is.

Like you said, regardless of what’s happening internally, not a good look.

MOO

 

[aamillaa]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2025187220332646550

 

[maskedwoman]

Revenge. Thrill. Attention.

I don't think that's necessarily what happened here though. I think whomever did this could've been so obsessed by being digitally anonymous for the ransom demand and not leaving any identifiable evidence at the crime scene that he forgot to focus on the fundamentals of the crime itself - 1. Maintain the hostage 2. Get paid.

JMO.

That is an interesting hypothesis. After all, no one said they were experienced or smart. One possibility that just occurred to me is that whoever took her didn't realize what sort of medical issues she had.

If being roughly handled and not having her meds triggered a critical medical episode, they have no way to provide proof of life. So, now they have to come up with an alternate way to deliver the ransom demand. It seemed odd from the beginning that they didn't intend to remain in contact. But maybe not so odd if they already know they can't provide proof of life. So they make one last ditch effort to get a payoff. Or maybe several, if you include the weird offers of information for smaller bitcoin amounts. MOO

 

[mrjitty]

The crime scene tape came down the next day if I recall, and the media were allowed to walk all over the scene unabated. Even up to the front door.
That contaminated the blood spatter, the door mat and the entire area with their own cast off DNA. Consequently, there was no going back for more samples, analysis or evidence seeking.

RSBM

I can't comment on specifics, but apart from photographing the spatter, and taking some swabs, what else would we expect them to do with the pathway?

I don't know if anything was overlooked, but in general I am not surprised that obvious stuff is documented, sampled and then the scene released, even within a matter of hours.

 

[aamillaa]

RSBM

I can't comment on specifics, but apart from photographing the spatter, and taking some swabs, what else would we expect them to do with the pathway?

I don't know if anything was overlooked, but in general I am not surprised that obvious stuff is documented, sampled and then the scene released

Considering the multiple searches that were redone at NGs (including removing the other camera from the roof), it seems the house wasn’t initially processed/documented to the extent it should’ve been. MOO

 

[imstilla.grandma]

The lack of recent progress in the probe into Savannah Guthrie's mother's kidnapping may mean that investigators soon scale back their resources, sources with knowledge of the case told ABC News Friday.

A lawyer representing a convicted felon said his client and his client's mother were briefly detained as part of the Nancy Guthrie investigation.

Luke Daley, 37, and his mother, who is 77, were detained and had their house searched on Feb. 13, according to his lawyer, Chris Scileppi. Their home is about 2 miles from Guthrie's.

Chris Scileppi confirmed Daley -- who has served time in state prison on drug-related charge -- was the target of the operation by the FBI and Pima County Sheriff's Department but reiterated neither Daley nor his mother were arrested and said they have no link to Guthrie.

Daley was the second person detained for questioning and released after a deliveryman who identified himself as Carlos was stopped earlier in the investigation. ABC News has previously reported investigators are leaning away from both men as possible suspects

Nancy Guthrie live updates: Officials not ruling out possibility that multiple people were involved

The search for 84-year-old Nancy Guthrie began after she was abducted from her home near Tucson, Arizona, early on Sunday, Feb. 1, authorities said.

abc7.com

 

[keek]

That is an interesting hypothesis. After all, no one said they were experienced or smart. One possibility that just occurred to me is that whoever took her didn't realize what sort of medical issues she had.

If being roughly handled and not having her meds triggered a critical medical episode, they have no way to provide proof of life. So, now they have to come up with an alternate way to deliver the ransom demand. It seemed odd from the beginning that they didn't intend to remain in contact. But maybe not so odd if they already know they can't provide proof of life. So they make one last ditch effort to get a payoff. Or maybe several, if you include the weird offers of information for smaller bitcoin amounts. MOO

Came here this morn to say exactly the same thing. Now I feel that is what happened. A target of Savanah Guthrie's mother. A news 'celeb', hence ransom note originally to TMZ. TMZ is all about celebrity people news and updates. Nancy did not make it for long at all, still tried to get the planned ransom that is stretched out as why not keep trying? I think that was the little delay in contacting TMZ, what to do, what to do. No sign of life. They might just go away, done. N.G just not delivered or told where she is for sure, what's it to them at this point, they see no ransom coming their way.
Maybe someone will 'talk' for the reward, but also in great fear for their own life if they do. IMO

 

[MrsEmmaPeel]

As someone who has listened to every true crime podcast known to man I can say half of cases are solved by dedicated LE working hard behind the scenes for years and half are cases where LE dropped the ball in some way. I choose to believe complaining about PCSD is nothing but whining at this stage and does nothing to forward the investigation. Especially since we have no idea what’s being done. No idea. Media grasps for any story including stories against the Sheriff. Don’t let yourselves be manipulated. Fringe Media always wants your fear and outrage. JMOO.

 

[cherryleaf]

In other words...the case is going cold.

Silence can be strategic and imo, the case is far from going cold. The noose is tightening MOO

 

[Soccer Hooligan]

Welcome @Old Jim .

I tend to agree with this theory, makes no sense to go to the front door unless you were expecting someone on other side to open for you. Or you had opened it from inside already.

I listened to Gray Hughes today and he had similar theory as yours.

Thank you for sharing this. I hadn’t heard of him before and I think he’s spot on. I’ll def be following him in the future.

 

[Mars Investigates]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2025187220332646550

I've been following this case from Ireland. I just seen this tweet. I'm completely flabbergasted by this. What is going on....

 

[Data Sleuth]

In the article I was reading off-site, it was stated that the Sheriff effectively shut out the FBI from the case and is not sharing information. This is outrageous if true, but I will treat it as speculation. Other local LE have commented that he is on an ego trip and that is why he is the only spokesperson and doing his one-on-one interviews with the media.

In any case, this is not the best look in such a high profile investigation. MOO

Any link to that article you read offsite? otherwise please refrain from referring to rumors .

 

[ab01]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2025214101731823726

 

[Gunther Toody]

Any link to that article you read offsite? otherwise please refrain from referring to rumors .

Yes there is a link but I refrained from posting it because I didn't know if the New York Post was an accepted source of information, that is why I kept it as "speculation."

But I do appreciate your hall monitoring efforts.