AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[303gmf]

if it's any help to anyone, I found glasses with the special anti-glare coating helped a ton driving at night with the oncoming neutron star headlights.

Yes! I have them in my car as well, very helpful

 

[serenebee23]

That’s what I was thinking. I just don’t see why having lawyers there would be important for where the investigation is right now. Unless, there is much more going on than we know.

It would either be prosecutors or her personal family attorneys dealing with trust, estate, and will issues, things like that.

 

[SRWCF]

It’s sad to me that there are so many negative assumptions and infantilizing of older humans

Some of us may be speaking from experience, just like you are speaking from experience. That's it.

 

[Sessiebo]

It’s possible to a) use ChatGPT without an account and b) use a burner account for chatGPT and c) use a VPN.

(I’m not married to the ChatGPT idea - I’m just trying to think of what the perpetrator may have been done.)

All jmo

True, there are many ways to bypass the tracing but i only went off the idea about someone generally using Chatgpt for writing something without further thinking about all the data saving, tracing, etc.
With everything else digital, it's always possible to make yourself invisible. As long as you have the proper skillsets ofcourse.

 

[cady]

Some of us may be speaking from experience, just like you are speaking from experience. That's it.

As we age, we adjust. What we know we CAN do, we want to do. I'm 78 and still drive, but never at night or bad weather. ...That's why NG taking an uber for a short trip to AG's isn't strange to me, at all. Did not want to drive home after dark.

 

[serenebee23]

It would either be prosecutors or her personal family attorneys dealing with trust, estate, and will issues, things like that.

Also I should add a trust and estate attorney would deal with documents like powers if attorney, so maybe family realized they need to get her documents to deal with her bank accounts, mortgage, etc.

 

[abanddb123]

Fact: Nancy still drove her car but chose not to do so at night, taking Uber just a few miles instead - so not assumption or ageism

Fact: I am 20+ years younger than NG yet I'm not fond of driving at night in areas with no lights. Not ageism - I know many people who feel the same way.

This ridiculous bee in your bonnet is the 2 mins through the garage door all over again!

Off the subject, but I'm 55 with a high astigmatism. I avoid driving at night. Did in my 30's too.

 

[birdbox]

That’s what I was thinking. I just don’t see why having lawyers there would be important for where the investigation is right now. Unless, there is much more going on than we know.

Could have been high profile defense attorneys hired by someone who has been arrested and released.

 

[VegasGirl35]

That’s what I was thinking. I just don’t see why having lawyers there would be important for where the investigation is right now. Unless, there is much more going on than we know.

I think there's more going on. Maybe a deal is being hashed out behind closed doors between the D.A.'s office and an informant and they're going to the scene to confirm details?

 

[cait2007]

This case reminds me so much of the Idaho murders. No investigator would’ve first guessed that a random intruder would kill 4 innocent people, he didn’t know, in a matter of minutes. It defies the typical odds. I think that’s where this case is. It doesn’t make sense, because the chances of this happening are so, so statistically low with her age and lack of viable ransom. Moo

 

[birdbox]

I need to catch up, but these people dressed in suites don’t look like detectives. I’m not trying to stereotype or be disrespectful, but thoughts?

They did not look like detectives to me either. I got personal injury, billboard-on-highway, cheesy type attorney vibes.

 

[cherryleaf]

They reliable or are they just assuming something will happen based on LE activity at the house today?

Regarding Midwest P, They announced pretty much the same thing yesterday. My guess would be probably not.

We need to get back to basics thinking here. List 5 reasons someone would take a body with them?
1. I'll start embarrassment over sexual fantasy, evidence being found.

power or control
Hide evidence
Stage the body to appear like a random accident unconnected to them
Trophy
Sexual perversion

Also other things but just…no. Not writing it out or speaking it into existence. Prayers for Nancy and family

 

[Sessiebo]

It’s sad to me that there are so many negative assumptions and infantilizing of older humans

As much as there are vital elderly people, as many or more are there fragile ones.
People often speak of experience in their own surroundings so don't immediately put them away as judgemental, infantilizing or accusing of ageism.
Fact is that Nancy was known to have difficulty walking, wore a hearing aid (one or two, idk), had a pacemaker, not sure of other health issues, but also was still quite sharp in her mind.
Based on that one can say she was actually fragile, health wise.
If this was my mother i would worry more about something happening to her like falling or something then if she was completely healthy and still jogging around.
JMO

 

[birdbox]

It’s sad to me that there are so many negative assumptions and infantilizing of older humans

I get that people are very triggered by older people stereotypes. But the reality is many older people have their licenses taken away, live in nursing homes, have caretakers. There are some 90 year old who live independently, but that is the exception to the norm, not the norm.

 

[Luna20]

News Nation is calling those at NG's home today a "group of investigators."

10K views · 139 reactions | A group of investigators were seen returning to Nancy Guthrie's Arizona home on Wednesday, marking 25 days since the 84-year-old disappeared. NewsNation captured several unmarked vehicles arriving at the home. Multiple ind

A group of investigators were seen returning to Nancy Guthrie's Arizona home on Wednesday, marking 25 days since the 84-year-old disappeared. NewsNation captured several unmarked vehicles arriving at...

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Court Tv said the same thing a few hours ago

 

[cait2007]

With all the unmarked suvs it looks like high ranking feds. I don’t think this has to do with PCSO, which I’m totally ok with!

 

[farmgirl04]

I hope this is ok to ask. Is the black vehicle an LE SUV or possibly a Hearse?

ADMIN NOTE: We need a link to source for the pics or this post and responses will have to be removed and we don't want to do that.

IMO it looks similar to my car which is a Chevrolet Suburban which is what is used for a hearse. This vehicle is a Chevrolet Tahoe which you can see on the back in the above photo. It is shorter unlike the Suburban which is longer.
All MOO

 

[cady]

Court Tv said the same thing a few hours ago

HMMM. What could they discover that hasn't been discovered in the numerous times they have been there? jmo

 

[SaraSmile]

I had a weird idea when typing up another post trying to get to "my theory".

I vaguely remember something being mentioned about NG only recently joining that online church group. Did she recently stop attending physical church? Maybe some deranged person she met there thought she abandoned them or something like that?

Yes, there was alot of discussion about the church people, because, they were on, then off the timeline.
Also, the fact that NG watched church from a friend’s house, this wasn’t stated at first.

Maybe protecting church friends from scrutiny. Oh they wouldn’t hurt a fly…anyway this created questions at first.

On this forum, there were questions about her church friend’s children and grandchildren, as they maybe met NG. Found out she has a famous daughter ( maybe kidnap), Or NG saw the kids downtown Stealing, or doing drugs, could have started up a whole plan.

Maybe some people of faith can’t fathom their relatives doing a crime.
It’s just another connection to more people to look at.

JMO

 

[Marie A]

Well-thought out plan and preparation, but never achieved their goal, why?

Greed.
Obviously not a perfect plan either - though well-thought out and sophisticated in some ways. Sophisticated enough to have stumped law enforcement, FBI, and any private detectives the family has hired so far.

Six million dollars was too much to ask for unless someone is a billionaire (in which case they have better security for their immediate family members so it’s a moot point)
Although Savannah had six million dollars to throw at this it’s still too much to ask for without a way to contact the kidnappers, negotiate or have true proof of life.

Hypothetically, if Savannah had decided to throw six million dollars into the crypto fund and Nancy was then returned alive in a timely manner, this would have opened Pandora’s box for every crook out there to start kidnapping elderly victims.

Obviously the local police and FBI advised Savannah against paying the ransom - as they should.