NC - Eve Carson, 22, UNC student, shot to death, Chapel Hill, 5 March 2008 - #1

[Emily Booth]

Same day! WOW!

He could've worn a hoodie over the jacket? But, that afro, that requires a pick. In the convenience store, it's all gathered into a poof in the back and it looks like he's got pomade or product on his hair.

They both look like short guys, tho.

Reannan, did you mention a cadillac? Was there a cadillac?

 

[philamena]

Bringing this over from the other page.

Update:
Story Updated: Mar 10, 2008 at 11:27 PM EDT

http://www.wbtv.com/home/16482606.html

Detectives in Chapel Hill just released surveillance photos which show a man who was trying to use Eve Carson's ATM car at a convenience store.
Investigators have also digitally enhanced another photo apparently of the same young man trying to use Carson's card at an ATM.
Each of these pictures were taken the same day the student body president was found dead.

 

[Emily Booth]

I think it said the convenience store ATM was not successful but he wouldn't elaborate on the bank withdrawal? That narrows the time frame for the 2 withdrawals to within 24 hours if the perps didn't know there was a limit.

 

[Emily Booth]

Which of course is clearly spelled out in your post, Philamena!

 

[philamena]

I'd love to know the time of the withdrawal attempts.
If we knew which bank he went to, we could research the convenience stores close by. I have a feeling this creep wanted cash asap.

Guess LE won't release anymore info about the convenience store. I bet it had an outside camera that would clearly show if the perp was still driving Eve's car.

Anyone remember what time of day her car was found?

 

[crypto6]

I'd love to know the time of the withdrawal attempts.
If we knew which bank he went to, we could research the convenience stores close by. I have a feeling this creep wanted cash asap.

Guess LE won't release anymore info about the convenience store. I bet it had an outside camera that would clearly show if the perp was still driving Eve's car.

Anyone remember what time of day her car was found?

n

No, but one of the summaries says next day after the shooting.

c6

 

[Emily Booth]

It was reported at 2 PM Thurs 03/06 by Mrs. Toby Rich. It was found at North and Hillsborough around the corner from Eve's apt at 202 Friendly Lane. Nothing was taken from her car. It still had the radio.

 

[Emily Booth]

Cash = drugs

 

[philamena]

n

No, but one of the summaries says next day after the shooting.

c6

c6,
thank you!

 

[philamena]

It was reported at 2 PM Thurs 03/06 by Mrs. Toby Rich. It was found at North and Hillsborough around the corner from Eve's apt at 202 Friendly Lane. Nothing was taken from her car. It still had the radio.

Emily,
Thanks!
I heard a Fox reporter earlier today say that Eve's laptop was found and LE was examining it to see if the perp(s) used it or left fingerprints on it.
FWIW-I doubt a murdering gang member would be searching the net.

 

[crypto6]

Whoa, in the pics tinytown linked, looks like he's reaching for a gun. Is that how they got the pic because of a robbery?

http://www.wral.com/news/local/image/2553575/?ref_id=2550588&img_list=2553575%2C2553583%2C2548760%2C2545167%2C2545166%2C2545168%2C2537037

His hand's around something he's hiding something in his left armpit, could be a small gun. His jacket is not back like he's reaching for a shoulder holster with a larger handgun.

c6

 

[hollyjokers]

Same day! WOW!

Reannan, did you mention a cadillac? Was there a cadillac?

In the atm pics: looking beyond the passenger window, you can see what appears to be an older model cadillac fleetwood brougham. My dad had one, which I think was an '83. It looks to be in that model range.

Copying Lesleegp's brilliant post from earlier with pics showing roofline & windows of 2nd car:

I did some doctoring (not very well) of the pic of the perp so you can try and see what it is I see, and also will include a pic of a Cadillac Fleetwood for reference. I just see the squared off windows, big car roof.

 

[crypto6]

It was reported at 2 PM Thurs 03/06 by Mrs. Toby Rich. It was found at North and Hillsborough around the corner from Eve's apt at 202 Friendly Lane. Nothing was taken from her car. It still had the radio.

Scenario: She gave the PIN and they got the $$. She somehow got out in an upscale area (taking her back to release her, trying to assault her, finding aa isolated area to shoot her) and was shot escaping, explaining the mult gunshots. The blood on both sides of the road (link??) would be consistent with this.

Emily Booth: Thanks for the info. Is the area where she was shot near anything relevant to give us a clue why they were there? Sounds like a bad choice of execution sites, with dawn coming, no ATM near (??), people stirring and a gangsta-looking crew quite out of place.

c6

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Oh, that is very interesting!! Good work, LesLeegp!!!

 

[txsvicki]

I can never see anything that everyone else sees in the pics. I can't see another car in the background. To me it looks like another ATM machine, the drive area, and a curb in the background. Also, I don't think the guy is actually wearing a jacket in the store, but one of those long soft higher collar shirts that can be worn open over a t shirt or closed. My grandson has an Old Navy shirt similar made.

 

[teedie2]

In the atm pics: looking beyond the passenger window, you can see what appears to be an older model cadillac fleetwood brougham. My dad had one, which I think was an '83. It looks to be in that model range.

Copying Lesleegp's brilliant post from earlier with pics showing roofline & windows of 2nd car:

What is the picture in the middle?

 

[crypto6]

I did some doctoring (not very well) of the pic of the perp so you can try and see what it is I see, and also will include a pic of a Cadillac Fleetwood for reference. I just see the squared off windows, big car roof.

:doh: now I see it; through the passenger front window beside the SUV. Great pickup.

LINK

 

[crypto6]

I can never see anything that everyone else sees in the pics. I can't see another car in the background. To me it looks like another ATM machine, the drive area, and a curb in the background.

Try this: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,336149,00.html

 

[txsvicki]

I'm sorry, lol. I still only see another ATM with the curve on the end, then the drive, beyone that the curb, even the whiter area where the curb goes down into the road, and the tree branches jutting into the side area.

 

[Emily Booth]

This also from the Daily Tar Heel 03/07: "The police department's records dating back to 2001 don't show any violent crimes in the area where Carson was found, Curran said. Only six carjackings with force were reported in Chapel Hill between 2004 and October 2007.

She was found in a wealthy neighborhood where few students live, residents said. It is a popular place for jogging and walking dogs."

And the link below takes you to an early map that the Daily Tar did -- it does not include the cell phone which was dumped by a shopping mall between Chapel Hill and Durham: http://media.collegepublisher.com/media/paper885/stills/exgbx6wn.jpg

Eve was murdered not far from where she lived. I was curious about her daily habits, if she worked until dawn or if she went to sleep at 1:30 am and then got up and went out. I remembered reading somewhere her friends saying it was not unusual for her to be out and about in the middle of the night working.