GUILTY NC - PFC Kelli Bordeaux, 23, Fayetteville, 14 April 2012 - #11

[sundrop]

Isn't everyone who followed Kelli's case glad she's been found?
Imo that's the most important factor - not who gets credit for what.
Clearly Marshburn deserves credit though.
Without him, she'd still be laying where she was found.

On a side note, Holbert's car didn't provide forensic evidence apparently.
No DNA was found because the car was so dirty and contained a lot of trash.

Also, the articles and contents of shows make it clear LE looked into several suspects - not NH alone.
The estranged husband lied about the status of their relationship which causes most people to wonder what other stuff he might be lying about.
Don't perpetuate the false picture that all was hunky-dory between them because it was not. Kelli's mom considered those circumstances too (stated within article).

The problem is PI didn't do it alone but it was portrayed that way. Show didn't want to cover both sides so interview opportunity was turned down

 

[Madeleine74]

I think I know what's going on and why.

A lowly P.I. (and not a self-professed "doctor") helped solve this case and gain closure. It wasn't the person who should rightfully be the one to gain the glory and attention and credit. This is all about ego and has nothing to do with justice. The P.I. got it done, the P.I. formed the relationship with the perp.

Kelli was ultimately found and brought home to her family. The P.I. is a hero, IMO. A dangerous killer was eventually put away forever. That's what matters and that's what people will remember in this case.

The rest is (un)professional jealousy, plain and simple.

Reminds me of a completely different case in which bags of alleged evidence were gathered at a reopened crime scene, but there was no chain of custody and the wannabe hero was never called to testify and the bags of stuff gathered was excluded by the judge. The wannabe hero was left out. Well that killer went to prison so all's well in the end.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

Sounds to me as if the husband wants to create a story he can live with to relieve guilt.
Kelli had a boyfriend already.
Everyone should try to be real and honest which provides the best possibility of healing imo.

 

[sundrop]

Why do we care if NH was doing drugs or not?
If doing drugs helped him to confess Kelli's location, then who cares?
If a confession without a body, then drugs may become an issue.
Not relevant in this case.

What? It was a confession without a body. On Tuesday after nick confessed PI immediately phoned detective locklear, which was not mentioned in the show last night. After nick confessed PI drives nick back to his home town and rents him a motel room. Body was found on Wednesday the next day

Took 17 months to get a plea because defense lawyer was trying to get the confession thrown out. DA barely escaped this case bare his teeth

 

[Woe.be.gone]

Deal with it?
Who are you addressing?

Your horse is high.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

damn, I don't follow.
She was found. What more does anybody want considering the killer is behind bars.

 

[sundrop]

I think I know what's going on and why.

A lowly P.I. (and not a self-professed "doctor") helped solve this case and gain closure. It wasn't the person who should rightfully be the one to gain the glory and attention and credit. This is all about ego and has nothing to do with justice. The P.I. got it done, the P.I. formed the relationship with the perp.

Kelli was ultimately found and brought home to her family. The P.I. is a hero, IMO. A dangerous killer was eventually put away forever. That's what matters and that's what people will remember in this case.

The rest is (un)professional jealousy, plain and simple.

Based on what I know your are totally wrong. You don't know but only what you read on Internet, you have no direct information about what really transpired behind the scenes. You have no knowledge of what actually went on who was instrumental in forming relationship other than what you have read on the Internet and the show, which is a poor source.

 

[Madeleine74]

In the end justice was served and that's what matters IMO.

Kelli's killer is behind bars for life. That's what everyone hoped from the beginning once it became clear that Kelli was not okay and not coming back. Kelli was eventually found, finally laid to rest, her killer is behind bars where he deserves to be. Thank goodness.

 

[sundrop]

In the end justice was served and that's what matters IMO.

Kelli's killer is behind bars for life. That's what everyone hoped from the beginning once it became clear that Kelli was not okay and not coming back. Kelli was eventually found, finally laid to rest, her killer is behind bars where he deserves to be. Thank goodness.

I agree about case closed but many of the efforts for 2 years were hindered by law enforcement who misled searchers about direction to search and by certain people.

 

[sundrop]

Not sure about a self professed
doctor, I am aware of someone who is actually a doctor PhD who worked on the case and who has success on other cases.

As someone said months ago the PI used the good ole doctor and Locklear used PI to do his dirty work

 

[lowes123]

I agree about case closed but many of the efforts for 2 years were hindered by law enforcement who misled searchers about direction to search and by certain people.

Glad he is in jail and without the ability to appeal. I wonder why people were misled and hindered? Seems like something is missing... Did the phone ever get recovered? Still find the MB situation bizarre, I recall the media stating that the family said MB and KB were happily married, and yet on the show, the mom said she had thought MB had done something in the beginning and that she had thrown him out and had a new boyfriend. Could have something to do with the military maybe? Separated is not recognized by the military, technically her having a boyfriend would be adultery by military standards since she was married. I was also surprised no Dna was found in NH's car. It was a mess, but if he had beat her to death, how was no Dna found anywhere, makes me wonder if they actually even looked.

 

[Madeleine74]

According to the story NH told, he hit her outside the bar, not in his car. Who knows what the truth is though. His car looked just like what one might expect upon learning a homeless person (NH) was living in it. NH's car was impounded so the CSI folk probably did what they do to look for blood or other fluids.

As for MB, he might have been in a bit of denial that his marriage was really going to end. He might have been hoping he could work things out with KB -- they were estranged but not divorced.

As for KB's mother thinking maybe MB had something to do with KB's disappearance, that's probably a natural question that comes up in a parent's mind especially when there's an estrangement and then a weird disappearance. Everyone immediately looks to the spouse. The important thing is that LE did follow up and did investigate MB and they were able to rule him out, fairly early on.

Note to Borndem: Doesn't Locklear remind you a bit of Det. Daniels?

 

[sundrop]

Nick car was impounded over a week later parked behind his mom's old trailer on Shady Grove Road.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

The fact LE couldn't pick up Kelli's DNA from Nick's car is weird imo.
Yesterday, I registered the information as, 'wow, it is possible a dead body doesn't leave DNA behind in a vehicle'.

While on camera NH said he carried Kelli (after he hit her the first time) back to his area. I believe on 48 Hours.
Is this the same info others remember hearing? Or did he drive back to the area with her inside his car?

It kills me to point out that he said, when she woke up in his area later, he hit her again. Then around 5:00 - 4:30 or 5:00 a.m. drove her to the area where she was found.

He had to dig a hole. How long would that take to accomplish? Nobody noticed him nor his car coming or going.
Was Kelli in his car twice or three times total? The first time would have been when he picked her up. Did she get into his filthy car?
If she did, it makes sense he'd park near Froggy's versus back in his area. Did he put her into his car after he hit her the first time? If so, she was injured but alive while in his car the second time.
He claims no sexual contact - (hard to believe imo).
While back in his area (how'd they get there and where was his car parked), he said he killed Kelli after she stirred or woke up.
A few hours later he transferred the now dead Kelli to the area where he buried her. Why did he choose that specific area? Did he know he was leaving her on private property? Why was he comfortable there?

Is this the way others understand the story NH told?

Also, I recall when LE took samples from a taxi van that belonged to Froggy's.
Because NH picked Kelli up at or near to her apartment, using the van would make sense at the time. Now it sounds as if he picked her up independently aside from Froggy service. Confused on that point too.
Kelli's friend, JT, said NH gave Kelli his number. JT said he told Kelli that the NH dude is strange.

From memory, LE did process NH's car but unsure of the timeline.

LE didn't make the four day trip to Florida until a few weeks into the case iirc.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

Nick car was impounded over a week later parked behind his mom's old trailer on Shady Grove Road.

sundrop, please clarify. Did Nick bring and leave his car parked behind his mom's old trailer and it stayed there undetected for a week?
After a week, LE discovered NH had a car so they went (with a warrant) and impounded NH's car? If so, was the car returned to him?

 

[sundrop]

Yes about time frame
No they tore the car up

 

[sundrop]

Police ripped the car up during the examination, during Dr Godwin and PI interview with Nick he was pissed about police destroying his car

 

[Woe.be.gone]

Glad he is in jail and without the ability to appeal. I wonder why people were misled and hindered? Seems like something is missing... Did the phone ever get recovered? Still find the MB situation bizarre, I recall the media stating that the family said MB and KB were happily married, and yet on the show, the mom said she had thought MB had done something in the beginning and that she had thrown him out and had a new boyfriend. Could have something to do with the military maybe? Separated is not recognized by the military, technically her having a boyfriend would be adultery by military standards since she was married. I was also surprised no Dna was found in NH's car. It was a mess, but if he had beat her to death, how was no Dna found anywhere, makes me wonder if they actually even looked.

On 48 Hours Kelli's mom said that Kelli bought MB a one way ticket to Orlando and told him to stay there. That's pretty strong imo.

Now thinking about the money angle burns me.
It makes me sad to think someone would start singing the good husband tune realizing there might be a payout ahead.
I'm hoping the benefits went to her mother. The Army system did close and pay out benefits before Kelli's body was found.

Concerning infidelity, although frowned upon and in cases of fraternization especially,
can be detrimental to a military career. Kelli wasn't allowed the chance time-wise to get too far along in her career. Her marriage wasn't established within the community - there were even rumors she had already filed papers relative to her benefits.
In her case, because she was open and honest, I don't think she'd be punished through her chain of command for her choices.
That's one of the reasons MB's claims of wedded bliss bothered me because he implicated Kelli was a cheater. The story about their relationship could not exist both ways.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

The problem is PI didn't do it alone but it was portrayed that way. Show didn't want to cover both sides so interview opportunity was turned down

The 48 Hours episode featured a man referred to as Marshburn's assistant, Franklin ?. The two were standing nearby the recovery site along with the dog.

Can you say who or what the other side is?
We know about and appreciated the man who never gave up searching. But, to my point, he wasn't allowed to search private property.
By the way, how come Marshburn was allowed onto private property?
Or, maybe he didn't realize NH had led him onto private property.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

One more thought, it is actually better in the long run if a PI remains private, right?