GUILTY NC - PFC Kelli Bordeaux, 23, Fayetteville, 14 April 2012 - #11

  • #361
There are other probabilities imo. Yet I understand why certain peeps (the other probability peeps) wouldn't want anybody dwelling on other possibilities.

All I ever pray for is that the truth be known and that Kelli will be found.
 
  • #362
Well said troykan. I wouldn't be surprised if there was no pre-planning at all. I wouldn't be surprised if it was completely a crime of opportunity taken by someone who had impulses and urges that, at that very moment, could not be controlled. Like you said, it is all simply speculation and sure, the are other possibilities but based on the little we do know there aren't other probabilities.

exactly and i've said before that we (wsers) tend to see things through the lens of "it must have been planned for him to not get caught" when it's closer to the truth that we wouldn't be discussing a case where the perp got caught so we likely see a higher percentage of the "lucky" ones who should have been caught if not for some random chance.
 
  • #363
I agree that NH is the logical suspect - yet, considering how he was living and his low station in life, I'm very surprised evidence could not be found linking him to her disappearance.
 
  • #364
I agree that NH is the logical suspect - yet, considering how he was living and his low station in life, I'm very surprised evidence could not be found linking him to her disappearance.

I don't mean to sound like I'm nitpicking but there is evidence, even evidence we know about. Just not enough evidence to convince the powers that be that it is sufficient to get a conviction. For example, being the last known person to be with Kelli is evidence linking him to her disappearance. But I get what you're saying. No hair. No fibers. No DNA. No mementos. In all the cases like this I find it hard to believe they can't find enough evidence linking to someone, anyone. It has to be there. Frustrating.
 
  • #365
I don't mean to sound like I'm nitpicking but there is evidence, even evidence we know about. Just not enough evidence to convince the powers that be that it is sufficient to get a conviction. For example, being the last known person to be with Kelli is evidence linking him to her disappearance. But I get what you're saying. No hair. No fibers. No DNA. No mementos. In all the cases like this I find it hard to believe they can't find enough evidence linking to someone, anyone. It has to be there. Frustrating.

Agree! Also strange IMO considering NH is homeless (living out of his car) - seems all the more difficult that he could get away with doing it if he did it.
Always the chance that he was very lucky along with LE perhaps not devoting enough resources into solving (especially if they figured the Army would be investigating, or that she simply had runaway.... all IMO...
 
  • #366
  • #367
I have no idea where these remains were found in relation to the Ramsey Street area, but when I heard this on the local news this evening, my first thought was of Kelli. It was her case that first brought me to Websleuths, and I have never forgotten her. I don't know if it is appropriate to hope that these remains are hers, but this young woman needs to be found, whether she is alive, and I think we have all long since given up hope of that, or whether she is dead. And if they are hers, I pray that somehow justice will be served, and the person or persons responsible will be held accountable.

http://www.wral.com/human-remains-found-in-fayetteville/13103977/
 
  • #368
  • #369
Winslow St. where body was found is not far from Ramsey St. where she went missing from.
 
  • #370
Found near RR tracks according to the video from above link.
 
  • #371
OMG. thank you for posting this update. I hope there will be more info available soon.
 
  • #372
I don't even know if it is appropriate to hope these remains are Kelli's, but this young woman needs to be found, whether she is alive, which I think we all have long since given up any hope of, or whether she is dead. Her case is the one that initially brought me to Websleuths, and I have never forgotten her. If these remains are hers, I pray that the person or persons responsible for her death will somehow be brought to justice.
 
  • #373
Winslow St. where body was found is not far from Ramsey St. where she went missing from.

Just google mapped the two locations. They are very close. Such mixed feelings about this. Prayers for Kelli and her family


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  • #374
Kind of local for me. Sending thoughts, prayers and positive energy to Kelli's family.
 
  • #375
oh how sad...yet someone will get some closure about missing loved one...very close to where Kelli missing, hmm
 
  • #376
I felt odd saying "praying it is her". I want her family to have closure. I'm praying for whoever those remains... The people who knew that person. Be it Kelli or anyone else. Prayers for their people.

Everything everyone has commented has been helpful/kind. Thanks.
 
  • #377
I don't even know what to hope for. If this is Kelli, WHY hasn't she been found before now? There were so many searches. If Kelli, maybe she was moved there after it seemed a cause of death could no longer be determined.

I just don't know what to think. As sreshowtime says; at least someone's family will get some relief as to where their loved one is.
 
  • #378
Oh my. I've mentioned Kelli several times lately as there's another woman (named Kelly too) missing out of Milwaukee, WI. They found child 🤬🤬🤬🤬 on the computer of a poi in that case.

An aspect of Kelli's case I hadn't realized before is how brutal NH's crime was against the neighbor girl who was six when NH was sixteen and committed the crime iirc.
I can't recall how I discovered some specifics recently pertaining to NH's past crime but, the girl NH abused is confined to a wheelchair for life because of what he did to her. Are other people aware of this (if indeed it is a fact)?
If so, even though sexual abuse is bad enough, I can understand why peeps can't forget that he'd been violent and possibly could have killed the young girl back then. I wasn't aware of the violent actions aspect of the crime but didn't minimize the sex crime that he served time for either (not enough imo). Still, the new info doesn't prove NH harmed Kelli but, obviously, the actions he took before went beyond the sexual abuse of a child.
 
  • #379
What about the ex-boyfriend that had been visiting her from Florida. Was he ever ruled out? I do not think NH did any harm to her but, he knows who spooked her and who was probably waiting for her.
 
  • #380
The body was found on Winslow Street. I see there's an Amtrak Station in the general area and, of all places, the fire and police stations.
The area is beyond the whole length of Ramsey Street when headed south from Froggy's and then some.
The body could possibly be Kelli of course but, based on the area, I'm not assuming Kelli has been found.

Iirc Froggy's was directly south of the exit to 295. When going south on Ramsey St. to Winslow (they don't connect directly tho), when mapped, it gives a distance of 9.6 miles and estimated time to drive is 23 minutes. Ramsey has many traffic lights iirc.

Based on the nature of the area, I doubt it has been specifically searched with finding Kelli in mind.
Wonder how long it will take to find out. I'm hoping not too long for the sake of Kelli's family.
 

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