GUILTY NC - PFC Kelli Bordeaux, 23, Fayetteville, 14 April 2012 - #8

[VOH910]

Seems like many folks are "practicing the oath of silence" and likely based on request of LE. The public have not heard directly from her friends at work, friends back home in FL, neighbors at her apts., friends in Army. I think there is something significant that is known but is not being spoken. Just moo

IMO, or at least in my circumstances, it's out of respect for Kelli, her family, and the case. If LE wanted things revealed to the public they would reveal them. IDK what else they have that I do not know about. I say something, and it gets out, who knows how that would impact the case.

 

[Muckrucker]

I personally think Nick has ALL the answers...
But in regards to Mike, if in fact there was trouble in the marriage, come out and say it... Clear the air... The BIG picture is finding the answers to what happened to Kelli... I know that there are things in a marriage that are personal, but because of your actions that weekend, (not calling Kelli) I can see how the media & forums like these can come to conclusions...

It is a leap/assumption to state that MB didn't call Kelli. He might have. (I'm sure investigators have already gathered that information via cell records.) What we do know is that he didn't talk to Kelli that weekend, because Kelli was already missing in the wee hours of Saturday morning.

Try these for an alternate perspective:

• While the family has been very vocal about doubting Nick's story, not one of them have verbalized any doubt in Mike
• Niether the family, nor LE, nor media, nor anyone else has stepped forward expressing doubts in Mike's alibi
• The family is reported to be staying with Mike - at he & Kelli's aprtment
• The family has worked along side with Mike, posting flyers and attending searches.
• The family has teamed up together with Mike to do interviews.
• It was stated in earliest reports that authorities had asked Mike specifically to not speak up.
• The fact that he later appeared with the family on interviews and at further searches might be interpretted as having been given the 'okay' by LE.
• I don't question for a single second that Kelli's close-knit family loves her very much. And they seem like a strong and determined bunch. They don't seem like the type of people who would easily tolerate a suspect or keep him in their inner circle.
• Even if there were difficulties in the marriage, unless it can be directly related to Kelli's disappearance, it's not really anyone's business.
• If all evidence that LE is currently pursueing points to someone local, who was near the physical location of Froggy's, then it's a safe bet to think LE is focusing on someone who was local and seen with Kelli that fateful night.

I absolutely understand the curiosity about the marriage, as it might shed some light on Kelli's behaviours, but I don't believe it is a 'need to know' for the public.

Not a single source has disputed Mike's whereabouts publicly, yet several have forcefully disputed Nick's story. I'll bet Kelli trusted her family - and their intuitions, so I'm going to trust in their behaviours towards Mike, too.

 

[Muckrucker]

By the way, I've not heard if KB had a landline in her apartment, but even then, it's another electronic device whose advantage to the investigation is that it is in a fixed point.

Excellent point. Hadn't thought of the apartment phone. TY

 

[WideOpen]

Secondly, Nick cleared by cops?? I don't think so. He is in jail right now on $100,000 bond. I have never heard cops say they have no reason not to believe Nick's story. However they have said that they have no reason not to believe Mike's story. They also said that they spoke with LE in Florida. I have also heard out of LE's mouth that Mike was in Florida at the time of Kelli's disappearance. I have not heard LE defend anything that Nick has said.

Nick however sounds a little hostile when speaking about Kelli. "I didn't even know she was married." "I just figured she didn't want to be seen with me." "I just figured she didn't want me to see where she lived." "I saw her playing pool with a MALE FRIEND." " I saw her texting all night."

When weighing the two options Mike just doesn't fit as the perp.

JMO

I kind of butchered your post but just wanted to show a comment from an article early in the investigation. Maybe the military had/has information and was focused on another poi.

Dated april 17th
The military also says the bar employee who drove Bordeaux home from the bar is not considered a suspect.

http://www.witn.com/home/headlines/...agg_Soldier_Could_Be_In_Danger_147857115.html

JMO

 

[spoiledmom]

BBM: I don't think we know that for a fact, do we? I had thought it to be true but then realized that he could have tried to call her and/or he could have tried to text her and if so he would not have heard back from her. Maybe he thought she was mad at him, or just ignoring him.
What proof do we have that he made no attempt to reach her?

This is so true. And imagine if they were separated because she wanted some space. It's possible that they weren't separated per say but that she asked him for a little space or break from each other. He would naturally think that she was purposely ignoring him if she wasn't answering his calls. Then maybe he doesn't want to bother her again so he waits for her phone call (pushover). Instead he gets a call from the army Monday morning.

Also, if this is close to the true scenario, it would explain why Mike isn't telling the public. One, it's humiliating for Mike and also, what kind of picture could this paint of Kelli? He's the pathetic lonely husband and his wife is out partying with other men? He doesn't want this right now and frankly, he seems confused as hell about what goes on while he's in Florida. He just wants her found. Another thing I noticed when looking at his Facebook a few days after Kelli went missing, there was an older post from a mutual friend of Mike and Kelli's that said "glad to see you smiling again." Sounded like he had reason to be sad. This could be why LE called him the estranged husband in the beginning. A simple slip up that was supposed to be private information.

 

[mamamia54]

JMO

I kind of butchered your post but just wanted to show a comment from an article early in the investigation. Maybe the military had/has information and was focused on another poi.

Dated april 17th
The military also says the bar employee who drove Bordeaux home from the bar is not considered a suspect.

http://www.witn.com/home/headlines/...agg_Soldier_Could_Be_In_Danger_147857115.html

JMO

Hmmmm....How did I happen to miss that?

 

[Madeleine74]

The other thing to keep in mind is that this case, like all criminal cases, is not for the public's amusement. The #1 goal outside of finding the victim is to take the necessary steps and precautions to legally preserve the investigation so it can be prosecuted.

Curiosity and the demand for information is natural, but investigation details are not the public's right until the case is legislated in court, and no amount of foot stomping and pouting and crying foul is going to change the way cases are investigated and conducted.

 

[spoiledmom]

JMO

I kind of butchered your post but just wanted to show a comment from an article early in the investigation. Maybe the military had/has information and was focused on another poi.

Dated april 17th
The military also says the bar employee who drove Bordeaux home from the bar is not considered a suspect.

http://www.witn.com/home/headlines/...agg_Soldier_Could_Be_In_Danger_147857115.html

JMO

This is older though April 18th. Before they even stated that Mike was in Florida and that Nick was a sex offender.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

Just in regards to NA vs AA, AA is a lot more strict in my experiences. NA tends to be a little more laid back as far as drinking. I'm not saying they necessarily condone it but for the most part, they're main focus is on substance abuse as far as narcotics and such. I know a lot of people in NA who still drink...just from what I've seen, AA is a lot more structured than NA :twocents:

It's all the same - one legal, one not. Addict is an addict. Maybe NA tries to address the illegal first and goes soft on the legal but any substance affects an addict's brain. Prescription drugs are epidemic right now though so :waitasec:. Neither AA nor NA can tell anybody what to do as you're there to get help except when it's mandated that you attend. I'm a bit surprised to hear that NA gives a nod to alcohol. Anyway, it's all an education and an individual journey.

 

[mamamia54]

This is older though April 18th. Before they even stated that Mike was in Florida and that Nick was a sex offender.

I'm certain LE and the Army officials knew by that time that Nick was a sex offender.

 

[Muckrucker]

Can't speak for anyone else, but for clarity, I don't believe most here have tunnel vision of any kind. If posters seem to focus on one potential suspect, I take it for granted that they've carefully weighed all known facts before forming their own opinion. Doesn't mean they haven't considered alternate theories or suspects. It simply means that they've formed an opinion based on their own evaluations.

That's not tunnel vision. It's called critical thinking. ;p

 

[C.Hound]

Maybe that's what we think. We don't know him and I, for one, am waiting to hear all about his good traits. First, what does he do to earn money?

Are you saying Josh Powell was a victim because he was never charged? Or - just name any husband perp - that we know now did it.
That argument holds no weight imo.

Why does it matter?

 

[andalso]

Deleted my cranky pants post before the mods did....

 

[Woe.be.gone]

Well !!!!!!1
her hubby says " LETS call HIM JUSTIN! LOL"!!!!!!
this was not said in a friendly manner as i see it!

Not oh that justin a friend of hers from Florida he came to see her when i came to visit my mom and dad.

Maybe this third party guy (Justin?) was moving in on Kelli and making things worse for hopes of marriage repair. Maybe 'whoever' was crazy over Kelli and things weren't moving fast enough for him.

See, I'm fair. Could be another man was involved that Kelli actually had legit feelings for but she was holding back due to being married and all. Maybe that guy turned on her. Hope LE knows who and where that guy is/was.

Maybe, maybe, maybe, ..............:maddening:

 

[VOH910]

Why is everyone jumping down each other's throats?

 

[Woe.be.gone]

Why does it matter?

Because I've been asked to hold him in high regard and I want to know more about him. I'd love to do that if and when I find a reason.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

Why is everyone jumping down each other's throats?

Because we're not following the one track theory that NH should be burned at the stake asap.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

Can't speak for anyone else, but for clarity, I don't believe most here have tunnel vision of any kind. If posters seem to focus on one potential suspect, I take it for granted that they've carefully weighed all known facts before forming their own opinion. Doesn't mean they haven't considered alternate theories or suspects. It simply means that they've formed an opinion based on their own evaluations.

That's not tunnel vision. It's called critical thinking. ;p

Haven't seen the evidence yet. You, and others, must know more than I do. So far I see who the obvious person is to blame but I don't know what evidence LE has. I don't even know if NH lied to LE regarding Kelli.

 

[Muckrucker]

VOH - sadly, it is par for the course. When you get a whole bunch of passionate people together on these forums, each with their own opinions, life experiences, and beliefs, it tends to get heated now & again.

The upside is that most are self-correcting, and pretty fair. And when people aren't, then the Mod Squad steps in.

Probably not helpful, but from my perspective, this isn't very heated by comparison to some threads through the years. I am sorry you have to experience this though, in your circumstances. It can't be pleasant for you to see this side of a missing persons case.

How are you holding up?

 

[andalso]

Because we're not following the one track theory that NH should be burned at the stake asap.

IMO, that's not it. IMO, it's because we have nothing new to go on and we are all getting frustrated. It's like brothers and sisters in here sometimes...usually when there are no new facts.
I am still open to the possibility it could be MB, but IMO, it is more likely NH.

ETA::Oh my gosh, I am arguing over why we are arguing. I must need a break.
Sorry y'all.