GUILTY NC - PFC Kelli Bordeaux, 23, Fayetteville, 14 April 2012 - #9

[lowes123]

I forget where I read this, but a while back, someone had written that Mike had received a call from Kelli's phone shortly after she was missing. We're they able to find which tower that pinged from?

 

[nursebeeme]

I had only read/heard that Mike last talked to her at 3pm on Friday

 

[Woe.be.gone]

Trying to find a link to support something I repeated in a post above, I ran across this interview of MB by JVM.

In it Mike reports that he got a call at around 11:30AM from his apartment manager for permission to let the co-worker Soldier into the apartment - that Kelli hadn't reported for work. Mike tells it as if this is the first he's hearing that Kelly is missing. (scroll down pretty far)

"And I got the phone call Monday around 11:30 from my apartment manager and Kelli's lieutenant was here and they were wondering why or if I knew where Kelli was, and I said no. She should be at work, and, you know, I'm thinking it's 11:30 so why hasn't she shown up for work. So they asked me if they can go in the apartment and I said for sure, you have my approval to go into the apartment and check to see if she was ok, you know."

. . . more at link.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1204/25/ijvm.01.html

This is the interview where MB states that Kelli's sergeant, who MB says he called after he received the call from the apartment manager, tells him that Kelli didn't show up for work 'last night or today'.* :waitasec:

*per my husband Army retired. - Sunday night if Kelli didn't report for duty in a non critical position it would be written up and reported to the company commander the next morning. For a critical position they'd try to hunt her down immediately while, at the same time, finding a qualified replacement. In either case, if the sergeant is also a friend, my husband believes the common sense thing would be that he would call the PFC's home and cell number to find out where the heck she is and find out why she's not at work (so he doesn't have to write her up). Then if that wasn't done, in the morning, the sergeant must officially report that the PFC didn't report for duty the night before.

Here's where MB's comment gets tricky ~

That same PFC that was supposed to work the night before, wouldn't be expected at formation the next morning at 6AM because she would still be at work as her shift would not end until after the morning formation was over. As a matter of fact, she should be off duty on Monday as soon as her replacement showed up (husband is telling me that back to back shifts don't occur without an emergency).
So, if Kelli was due into work on Monday morning, she'd have formation early in the AM. When she didn't call or report Monday morning, they'd conduct a telephone search first which, it sounds as if they did. When Kelli didn't answer her phone, the LT drove out to her place to check on her well-being.

Further explanation is needed to determine why Kelli would have been expected to work Sunday night as well as expected to show up Monday morning. Unless the well-being check that was done was based on her not showing up for her night shift alone.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

I forget where I read this, but a while back, someone had written that Mike had received a call from Kelli's phone shortly after she was missing. We're they able to find which tower that pinged from?

I read this too but I'm unable to locate an 'official' link to back up this information which seems to have originated at another Website. :waitasec:

 

[Woe.be.gone]

I had only read/heard that Mike last talked to her at 3pm on Friday

True MB last spoke to Kelli 3PM on Friday 13th of April (per him). The rumored call (no talking involved) was made to MB's cell from Kelli's cell early Tuesday morning - after he was in Fayetteville and after she had been reported missing.

 

[StrayKat]

I wonder what is untrue... as has been reported in the media, according to VOH.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

I wonder what is untrue... as has been reported in the media, according to VOH.

Why couldn't VOH tell us? If it's untrue and only told by the media, why not tell us the other possible version of what is true? Ugh!!!

What happened to VOH anyway?

Are all the three of the collateral damage people still in jail (the 3rd one is 'J')?

 

[Woe.be.gone]

I forget where I read this, but a while back, someone had written that Mike had received a call from Kelli's phone shortly after she was missing. We're they able to find which tower that pinged from?

That would have been the day, later in the day, that 'J' was arrested in Kissimmee too.
What does failure to report on a written promise mean? What I'm asking is, what did you do in the first place that would require you to have to report to LE on a future date?

 

[Woe.be.gone]

http://fayobserver.com/articles/2012/04/23/1173168

See under 'Visit from a Friend'.

In the article above is where Kelli's brother, MH, states that an old friend of Kelli's named 'Justin', had visited Kelli in Fayetteville (We, or I, think the old friend in Kelli's life is named 'John' because of the interview that John B. gave on TV). :waitasec:

MH reported that Justin was the recipient of the 'home safely' message.

Doesn't clarify much for me but I wanted to bring something forward to remind peeps of what we know as far as what's in print. It's difficult to understand why MH would say 'Justin' when John, the real person?, appeared on national TV using his own name. Very confusing.

Also, I have no clue as to how 'J', who was arrested on April 17 on unrelated charges, fits into Kelli's case. Or, if he does, if he ever went to Fayetteville to visit Kelli.

So we have a faceless Justin and a real person, John. Also, the husband, Mike. ~ from the personal side of Kelli's life.

 

[phantomthought]

http://fayobserver.com/articles/2012/04/23/1173168

See under 'Visit from a Friend'.

In the article above is where Kelli's brother, MH, states that an old friend of Kelli's named 'Justin', had visited Kelli in Fayetteville (We, or I, think the old friend in Kelli's life is named 'John' because of the interview that John B. gave on TV). :waitasec:

MH reported that Justin was the recipient of the 'home safely' message.

Doesn't clarify much for me but I wanted to bring something forward to remind peeps of what we know as far as what's in print. It's difficult to understand why MH would say 'Justin' when John, the real person?, appeared on national TV using his own name. Very confusing.

Also, I have no clue as to how 'J', who was arrested on April 17 on unrelated charges, fits into Kelli's case. Or, if he does, if he ever went to Fayetteville to visit Kelli.

So we have a faceless Justin and a real person, John. Also, the husband, Mike. ~ from the personal side of Kelli's life.

My memory is during his interview John B said he met and became friends with KB when he was her boss when they both worked at sonic.Justin has has been friends with her since childhood.So they seem to be two different people.I also have seen nothing that this 'j' fits into this case.

 

[LLLindsayy]

IMO, the two "J's" are different people. I base this opinion on many reasons, but the main one is that I doubt that if there was a serious long term relationship between K and JB that she'd remain friends with him AND his wife. Especially not close enough that he'd come visit her alone in another state. KWIM?

Nothing against male-female friendships while married and nothing against remaining friends after a breakup. I just don't see these factors being likely.

 

[Soulmagent]

http://fayobserver.com/articles/2012/04/23/1173168

See under 'Visit from a Friend'.

In the article above is where Kelli's brother, MH, states that an old friend of Kelli's named 'Justin', had visited Kelli in Fayetteville (We, or I, think the old friend in Kelli's life is named 'John' because of the interview that John B. gave on TV). :waitasec:

MH reported that Justin was the recipient of the 'home safely' message.

Doesn't clarify much for me but I wanted to bring something forward to remind peeps of what we know as far as what's in print. It's difficult to understand why MH would say 'Justin' when John, the real person?, appeared on national TV using his own name. Very confusing.

Also, I have no clue as to how 'J', who was arrested on April 17 on unrelated charges, fits into Kelli's case. Or, if he does, if he ever went to Fayetteville to visit Kelli.

So we have a faceless Justin and a real person, John. Also, the husband, Mike. ~ from the personal side of Kelli's life.

I was under the impression
there are two Justins that Kelli was friends with. Then John. I do not know if the one arrested was the one in N.C or not or if either of those J is the one who was arrested or in N.C. I have not sleuthed any J's because they have not been named in the media.


I do not believe John was the one who was in N.C.

 

[Okay then]

BBM: Yes, Woe...I do.

The things that make you go "huh"?
Happens to me almost every time I log in to WS!!

So true, If it bumps Kelli... LOL!

 

[Woe.be.gone]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQ7QUWlHSeQ&feature=youtu.be

Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - SPOTLIGHT CASE **arrest**CA - Sierra Lamar, 15, Santa Clara County, 16 March 2012 #16

These links are to the Presser covering the arrest of the perp in Sierra Lamar's case. At around the 12 min mark in the video, the Sheriff makes a comment about how they looked at all the registered sex offenders in the area but were surprised to find out that the perp is not one. Also she comments that in these types of cases the percentage is low that the perp is an RSO.

This statistic would fit into the study of criminal profiling and the understanding that RSOs tend to commit specific types of crimes versus stranger abduction types versus crimes of passion, etc.
Found that unsourced statistic interesting from an educational standpoint for the purposed of determining likely perps in crimes - food for thought anyway.

Kelli's case is unique in that it potentially could involve any of the three types I mention above but the easiest conclusion is to assume she has been hurt by the RSO but that may not be true.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

My memory is during his interview John B said he met and became friends with KB when he was her boss when they both worked at sonic.Justin has has been friends with her since childhood.So they seem to be two different people.I also have seen nothing that this 'j' fits into this case.

Please read the story in the link provided carefully. In the second section of the article, Matt explains that the friend and Kelli became friends when the family moved to St. Cloud from Orlando 'about 20 years ago'?????

When Kelli was three? I don't think that's what Johnna said.
Anyway, John B. works in St.Cloud and said he's known Kelli for eight or nine years. When did she work at Sonic? As a teenager? I don't see anything referencing a 'childhood' friend. I read comments from a female childhood friend of Kelli's who attended school with Kelli, moved next door to her a year after Kelli had moved to St. Cloud and that Kelli helped her keep up with her studies, etc.

Again, I'm confused as usual about the whose who in this case and their was wheres. I try to sort it out and end up even more confused!

MB referred to Justin to the media and when he did, he did not sound friendly about it imo.

Also, to clarify, I don't think John B. is Justin. John B. seems to have knowledge about Kelli's relationship status though.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

IMO, the two "J's" are different people. I base this opinion on many reasons, but the main one is that I doubt that if there was a serious long term relationship between K and JB that she'd remain friends with him AND his wife. Especially not close enough that he'd come visit her alone in another state. KWIM?

Nothing against male-female friendships while married and nothing against remaining friends after a breakup. I just don't see these factors being likely.

Right, I agree that there isn't a serious long term relationship between Kelli and JB - never have thought that to be the case.
He and his wife are Kelli's good friends - we all need some of those!

 

[nursebeeme]

http://blogs.fayobserver.com/fromth...er-search-for-missing-soldier-Kelli-Bordeaux-

another search planned for this weekend

 

[Woe.be.gone]

My hope is that LE took those burn barrels from the back of Froggy's to examine their contents/ashes. That is, if they had not already been emptied by the time LE found out about them. According to VOH the burn barrels had been lit Friday the 13th of April. If Kelli's phone and/or clothes were burned, searches could go on forever and her stuff will never be found.

My husband was known for saying, 'work smarter, not harder'. Sometimes, and I don't know because I'm not inside LE operations, if they do that. Can I ask them to please work faster - please?

 

[mamamia54]

Poor Kelli, nothing new on her case. Let's hope that this Saturday the volunteers will find something useful.

 

[parker38]

Poor Kelli, nothing new on her case. Let's hope that this Saturday the volunteers will find something useful.

I feel the same way. It's been so long without one sign of her or her
belongings. I think the reason is she is not in the area and could be
hours away.
I also think there is no POI because either LE is trying to trap someone OR
make someone think they have their guy.
Seems to me most cases have pressers to update the case; even to say
they can't answer the questions. lol But nothing at all with this LE.