Found Deceased NV - Naomi Irion 18, kidnapped from pkg lot, car fnd, Fernley, 12 Mar 2022 *Arrest* #3

[HarvestMoon]

Ben Margiott
@BenMargiott
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Naomi Irion's body was found in a gravesite off Coal Canyon Road, right by the Lovelock prison, investigators said.

Herat and Otto, not sure if you have already seen this.

 

[stargazer17]

I’m not being a Websleuther now, simply a woman who has been very sad over Naomi and her family. They were so desperate and determined to find her, steadfastly holding onto Naomi coming back to them alive.
Last night I didn’t sleep at all, as I wondered what Naomi’s last hours of life might have been like. How very terrified she must have been. To have died alone in the grips of an insane ugly predator … Very far from the comfort of her home and from everyone that loved her so very deeply.
Such terrifying fear.

Yes agree unfortunately. I so was hoping for a different outcome. I couldn’t sleep thinking what her mother was going through and of course the rest of of her loved ones but as a mother, oh I’m heartbroken. I just pray that my heartbreak takes away a little bit of pain from her mom. It’s unbearable, what is wrong with society that this even exists, will it, does it, can it ever change?

 

[Lillymac]

I think Naomi was incapacitated immediately. TD then went to his truck and ultimately took her to the location where she was located. I'm basing this on the fact that Naomi was a big girl.. 5'11 and 240 pounds. TD is 6 feet, weight ? The car is a small car. That was a very crowded front seat. There's no way, I can see, that he could maintain control of her and drive a long distance. My grandson is 6' 250 pounds and he wouldn't even fit in the car.
If TD used something to put her to sleep, the distance he drove would have to be within the time it would be effective. But my point is to control a conscious Naomi, he would need to get her quickly out of that car. Also from the time of the abduction to the time of the LE being aware she was missing, was at least 3 days. I honestly think he had her all weekend, the reason for pings in different locations. This is all guess work, but based on a few facts we have. She may have been naive, but she wasn't stupid and when your life is on the line, you fight. I think she was unable to fight the moment he got in the car with her. JMO

 

[HarvestMoon]

Yes agree unfortunately. I so was hoping for a different outcome. I couldn’t sleep thinking what her mother was going through and of course the rest of of her loved ones but as a mother, oh I’m heartbroken. I just pray that my heartbreak takes away a little bit of pain from her mom. It’s unbearable, what is wrong with society that this even exists, will it, does it, can it ever change?

Yes, as a mother too familiar with loss and grief, I think of her too. I also have concern for her brother. I think he has taken on the responsibility, I hope he will not be too hard on himself. He gave so much to find his sister.
And her poor father traipsing all over Reno handing out missing posters and chasing the tip that his daughter had been sighted there.
It really needs to change, Stargazer17; so many missing and murdered women and children. It seems like more and more all the time.

 

[Satchie]

Sounds like it's possible that he led police to the location of her body. That would certainly explain why she was found so quickly. Use of the term "gravesite" leaves me understanding that she was somewhat buried, shallow grave at best.

Perhaps paperwork takes time. He's already in custody, and if he bailed out he would immediately be re-arrested. There's no urgency to add murder to kidnapping.

Maybe he made a deal to reveal body location in exchange for reduced sentencing possibilities.

Arresting a confessed murderer is not something LE dilly dally about. It's extremely important that the public and the victim's family know that police have solved the case and there's no additional suspects out there.

JMO

 

[Kecharaeq2]

Ben Margiott
@BenMargiott
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Naomi Irion's body was found in a gravesite off Coal Canyon Road, right by the Lovelock prison, investigators said.

Herat and Otto, not sure if you have already seen this.

Wow, that’s a pretty ballsy move. Disposing of a body right near a prison…
JMHO of course

 

[otto]

I’m not being a Websleuther now, simply a woman who has been very sad over Naomi and her family. They were so desperate and determined to find her, steadfastly holding onto Naomi coming back to them alive.
Last night I didn’t sleep at all, as I wondered what Naomi’s last hours of life might have been like. How very terrified she must have been. To have died alone in the grips of an insane ugly predator … Very far from the comfort of her home and from everyone that loved her so very deeply.
Such terrifying fear.

Family hoped that she was alive, but her mother said in her first video that there were two possibilities: abduction/murder or human trafficking. Abduction/murder is more likely, and she seemed to know that - perhaps from what her son saw on CCTV footage. Police have to say that they are looking for a living person until there is proof of death. They are also looking for proof of deceased.

I think she must have been very scared. Eighteen years old, ages 13-18 in ex-pat compounds, never expecting what happened to her.

Someone mentioned upthread that she could have been first assaulted with a taser. Her brother said that she was visibly shaking when the suspect entered her car. I wonder whether a knife wound would also cause visible shaking.

Either way, there was evidence of criminal activity in her car, yet the suspect would have been cautious regarding leaving DNA in her vehicle.

 

[Knox]

I agree it seems like some type of gps data, since LE appear to have found the gravesite fairly quickly, and apparently without a massive police search.

But I notice he was arrested on Fri the 25th, yet the press release states investigators went to the area on Tues the 29th.

I think if it was simple phone tracking or vehicle gps, they'd have been there within hours, not days. The FBI would drop everything to retrieve that data asap.

I also wonder, if gps data proved him to have been in the location of her grave any time after her abduction, wouldn't he be charged with her murder by now? Why would LE wait for more evidence?

Possibly LE were checking every site he'd been to, from well before her abduction... places he'd visited that made no sense why he'd go there.

IMO, if he'd told them where to find her himself, LE would have announced he was charged with her murder when they released the news that her remains were found.

JMO

I'm still confused as to which vehicle he used to transport her body to the site she was found? If her car, I assume no vehicle GPS data, but potentially cell pings. Or if his personal or work trucks, could be GPS? How long would it take to flash the vehicles and get the info? Four days? It was late when they towed the day he was arrested. So possibly three days and the fourth to search and find Naomi?

 

[Herat]

Ben Margiott
@BenMargiott
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Naomi Irion's body was found in a gravesite off Coal Canyon Road, right by the Lovelock prison, investigators said.

Herat and Otto, not sure if you have already seen this.

Nah. Something is wrong. The red pin is not in Churchill County at all. It's probably just marking the area of Coal Canyon Road turnoff from I-80. I am quite comfortable that the gravesite is about 20 or 25m miles farther south along Coal Canyon Road where it turns into Iron Mountain Road, in Churchill County, just as @otto had noted.

I don't know if the misinformation is just inaccurate/slopppy or even intentional.

 

[Sillybilly]

ADMIN NOTE:

Far too many off topic posts have had to be removed. One OT post and then our very few Mods have pages and pages to go through to find all the off topic responses that are derailing a thread. Just please stay on topic in this discussion. Hundreds of members and thousands of guests don't come to WS to read personal anecdotes. Unless your post relates directly to Naomi's case, it is off topic and OT posts are a violation of Websleuths TOS.

Also, very basic WS TOS ... ALL images require a link to the source. We can't just snag whatever we want off the internet without giving credit to the source. It's not us being jerks .. it's copyright law that has existed for years.

 

[Herat]

After the intensity of his arrest and the news of her grave being found, I'm worn out.

Then a waft of grattitude came over me and I realize I am truly thankful that her body was found. She doesn't have to be alone out there in the lonely Nevada wilderness. Her family doesn't have to look out into the vast empty sky and wonder.

She will come back to her family and friends and they can find some solace in closure.

Yes, this feeling is full of self-delusion and plattitudes, but is is real and my sympathies for her family include this tiniest of blessings.

 

[samsmom]

Gray Hughes gives his take on the location of Naomi’s body. He’s still not one hundred percent but based on the info he’s received. Also, he goes over the Feb footage of the girl in the car.
It’s end of the month donation night so fast forward for an hour or so. No time stamp this time.

 

[Satchie]

Gray Hughes gives his take on the location of Naomi’s body. He’s still not one hundred percent but based on the info he’s received. Also, he goes over the Feb footage of the girl in the car.
It’s end of the month donation night so fast forward for an hour or so. No time stamp this time.

His theory is that someone saw her car on that road and called in the tip. That she couldn't have been far from where the car parked.

I suppose it could have been someone's dashcam footage, like with the Gabby Petito case.

JMO

 

[otto]

I'm still confused as to which vehicle he used to transport her body to the site she was found? If her car, I assume no vehicle GPS data, but potentially cell pings. Or if his personal or work trucks, could be GPS? How long would it take to flash the vehicles and get the info? Four days? It was late when they towed the day he was arrested. So possibly three days and the fourth to search and find Naomi?

We know that:

March 12, Saturday

• Naomi abducted in her car 5:24 AM Fernley NV
• she and her car missing at the time of abduction

March 13, Sunday

• brother realizes she's missing in the evening
• reports her missing just before midnight

March 14, Monday

• HR confirms last day of work was Friday
• brother accesses Walmart CCTV
• reported kidnapping around noon

March 15, Tuesday

• Her car was found abandoned 3.5 days later, around noon
• her car was less than one mile from abduction site, police looked for 24 hours before they found it
• A suspect vehicle associated with Naomi's abduction is photographed outside Sherwin-Williams in the late afternoon - date unknown
• photo of suspect vehicle is release late Tuesday or Wednesday
• the photo is taken after suspect returned to the scene of the crime to drop off her car

That means that Naomi was not transported to another vehicle. Her vehicle was missing for several hours after she was abducted. When her vehicle was found, she was not there.

Cell phone pings would be the only way to track her car. Troy Driver might have disabled her phone, but he might have left his phone turned on because he didn't expect to get caught.

March 29

• body found

Unless he returned to the scene of the crime, believing that his vehicle was not associated with the abduction, the only way to find the exact body location would be if he provided the information (outside of his cell phone tracking). If he returned to the scene of the crime (again), then his phone and truck GPS could lead police to the body.

 

[Von Pinn]

I'm still confused as to which vehicle he used to transport her body to the site she was found? If her car, I assume no vehicle GPS data, but potentially cell pings. Or if his personal or work trucks, could be GPS? How long would it take to flash the vehicles and get the info? Four days? It was late when they towed the day he was arrested. So possibly three days and the fourth to search and find Naomi?

I'm beginning to wonder if he transported her body in one of the work trucks if the road to where they found her grave is only for high clearance vehicles? No one would think nothing, if the company vehicles have dirt on them. The truck he hid in the garage, the same one on the camera looked a little too snazzy to take down a road like that. Too much of a risk getting it dirty, or dinged by flying gravel.

He may have driver with her, in her car, to a company site and grabbed one of their trucks. MOO.

 

[Proudnanny]

Dbm

 

[Proudnanny]

Have only seen sad news today as I've been caring for my daughter with covid I'm so sad this poor young lady and her family so tragic when will women be able to feel safe going about there normal day lives my prayers are with her poor family
RIP sweet young lady you deserved so much more in life

 

[mickey2942]

Does TD still have a job?

Probably not. And he has created another bad rap for hiring people with a prison record.

 

[SteveP]

I wonder if any evidence, other than her body, and presumably her clothes, were found at the gravesite location where Naomi was buried? Do you think her purse and cell phone were located along with her? A weapon of some sort? Anything specifically pointing to TD as her killer?

I think most likely her phone was turned off shortly after her abduction, and was thrown out of the vehicle window somewhere enroute to the Lovelock area, in which case it will probably only ever be found by pure luck. He may have taken her ID and buried the remains of her purse, along with her. I do not think he was stupid enough to leave any weapon behind, as that could have been discarded almost anytime and anywhere after the killing, and any of his clothing that had her blood or DNA on it, hoody, etc, was probably thrown away, or more likely burned. Would be curious to know if there is a burn barrel anywhere on his premises, and if any neighbors saw smoke at any point in the past couple weeks. JMO

 

[Herat]

GH was doing an interesting piece on Coal Canyon Road last night on his video.

He was looking at someone's youtube of ?2021? driving south on Coal Canyon Road from I-80. He noted something that no one else has yet mentioned, and that Coal Canyon Road actually splits just inside the Pershing County into Iron Mine Road (which seems to keep it's asphalt surface heads south while the unpaved Coal Canyon Road continues off towards the SE, more into the hills.

GH sort of drifted off into talking about the end of the youtube, showing them stopping apparently at a power or telephone line, but GH didn't really continue the topic any farther, as I was expecting him to do so, and to my eye the end of the youtube is still within Pershing County.

As I look at the labeling, Iron Mine Road continues farther south along the Carson Sink area, past Iron Mine (duh) and then starts getting labeled Stillwater Road. At that point it is just east of the Stillwater Wildlife Refuge and starts turning into the field and outskirts of Fallon.

Coal Canyon Road continues on SE and then gets labeled Anderson Ranch Road, then quckly Estill Ranch Road, then sort of ends in the ranch, in the hills of the Stillwater Range to the east of Fallon.

Importantly, this "Coal Canyon Road" only enters Churchill County when the label "Estill Ranch Road" is first seen on the map.

So I have to assume that Churchill County SO does know their roads and their use of the term "Coal Canyon Road" can also include that unpaved section that heads off SE. That would place the
e gravesite possibly more hidden from the main road ( which is now Iron Mine Road).

I've attached the FR24 shot of the intersection with the labeled roads. You should be able to scroll it for a higher level view.

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In looking at both of them, I think her vehicle could have driven down either of those. They both look pretty flat and have either an asphalted or graveled surface. When Coal Canyon merges into Anderson Ranch Road, it looks more dusty and possibly with some softer sandy areas. Can't determine what the current conditions would be on that section of the dirt road.

Apologize if this makes your head hurt, too. I wish GH had finished his train of thought. He was on to something, IMHO.