NV - Tesla Cybertruck explosion at Trump hotel in Vegas investigated as a possible terrorist act, 1 Jan 2025

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@BrianEntin


The man who drove a Cybertruck that exploded outside of a Vegas hotel identified as Matthew Livelsberger, an Army veteran from Colorado, a law enforcement source told NewsNation. He served at the same military base as the terrorist who drove into a crowd in New Orleans.


10:14 AM · Jan 2, 2025
 
  • #142
From press conference happening right now:


@BrianEntin


FBI says no definitive link between attack in Las Vegas with cyber truck and New Orleans attack.


11:36 AM · Jan 2, 2025
 
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Now Livelsberger’s loved ones are speaking out to share their shock and to reveal that the Army man—reportedly based in Germany, but back stateside on leave—had not spoken to his wife in “several days.”

That’s according to a CBS report, which cited anonymous relatives of the 37-year-old Special Forces veteran. Those loved ones added that they knew Livelsberger had rented a Cybertruck in Colorado recently—something authorities said the suspect did through Turo, which works similarly to Airbnb for rental vehicles and was also used by the man who killed 15 in New Orleansearlier Wednesday.

 
  • #144
The woman initially thought to be his wife with the FB that only has posts from 2016 and earlier.. is not his current wife. I can't link anything, but hope this stands because I saw comments on FB posts where her friends have commented and said she is not married to him, has moved on and has a kid/s with someone else. So it seems that SL FB profile is his first wife and they are no longer married... maybe a FB she abandoned when they split?
 
  • #145
Both attackers spent time in Afghanistan. A lot of soldiers who spent time there, even in non-combat roles, were not the same when they came back.

There may be a connection between the two cases, but it looks like a tenuous connection at best.

This bombing seems to be a symbolic gesture that has accomplished very little.
 
  • #146
His tattoo looks like this but the orientation is off to me so IDK
what-is-the-horn-of-odin-724x1024.jpg
Definitely the closest to his tattoo.
I just wonder why it was so bold and sortof messy over the other tattoos.....
That is my question...
Is there a connection to his other tattoo, or was he trying to obscure the other tattoo.
 
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The woman initially thought to be his wife with the FB that only has posts from 2016 and earlier.. is not his current wife. I can't link anything, but hope this stands because I saw comments on FB posts where her friends have commented and said she is not married to him, has moved on and has a kid/s with someone else. So it seems that SL FB profile is his first wife and they are no longer married... maybe a FB she abandoned when they split?
hope she can just take it down.
horrible press.
 
  • #148
Both attackers spent time in Afghanistan. A lot of soldiers who spent time there, even in non-combat roles, were not the same when they came back.

There may be a connection between the two cases, but it looks like a tenuous connection at best.

This bombing seems to be a symbolic gesture that has accomplished very little.
There is just so much information and study of what has happened to our returning vets. We all know them. Good friends. But so many really don't know what they were doing there.... moo of course

Veterans may experience the following reactions related to the current events in Afghanistan:

  • Feeling frustrated, sad, helpless, distressed (including moral distress), angry, or betrayed
  • Worrying about Afghans who worked with the U.S. military, like interpreters
  • Experiencing an increase in mental health symptoms like symptoms of PTSD or depression
  • Sleeping poorly, drinking more or using more drugs
  • Trying to avoid all reminders or media or shy away from social situations
  • Having more military and homecoming memories
  • Questioning the meaning of their service or whether it was worth the sacrifices they made



 
  • #149
I think this is going to wind up being some suicidal guy who wanted to make a statement. That vehicle is probably the worst one you could possibly use if the goal was to kill people; its design limits blast radius.

I agree. Though, I'm not sure the goal was to kill others. Perhaps it was a statement targeted towards the Trump/Musk relationship. Implosion comes to mind, occuring in Vegas, but that's jmo.
 
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The woman initially thought to be his wife with the FB that only has posts from 2016 and earlier.. is not his current wife. I can't link anything, but hope this stands because I saw comments on FB posts where her friends have commented and said she is not married to him, has moved on and has a kid/s with someone else. So it seems that SL FB profile is his first wife and they are no longer married... maybe a FB she abandoned when they split?
I don't understand why she's being sleuthed at all.
 
  • #151
I agree. Though, I'm not sure the goal was to kill others. Perhaps it was a statement targeted towards the Trump/Musk relationship. Implosion comes to mind, occuring in Vegas, but that's jmo.

That seems most likely. If the person had wanted to kill people, there are things that he could have done to make sure he would take others with him.

This bombing seems like a suicide protest to me, likely something having to do with Musk and Trump.
 
  • #152
I don't understand why she's being sleuthed at all.

Cause it always happens....
I just wish the actual reporting would get this straight, and NOT show her....
so unfair.
 
  • #153
That seems most likely. If the person had wanted to kill people, there are things that he could have done to make sure he would take others with him.

This bombing seems like a suicide protest to me, likely something having to do with Musk and Trump.
Yeah, I don’t think it’s that far removed from one of these guys who lights himself on fire in some sort of significant location.

I’m a bit surprised there’s no sort of note, or social media post, or something like that.

Maybe there is though, and we just haven’t heard about it.
 
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Yeah, I don’t think it’s that far removed from one of these guys who lights himself on fire in some sort of significant location.

I’m a bit surprised there’s no sort of note, or social media post, or something like that.

Maybe there is though, and we just haven’t heard about it.
We may know more after LE have searched through his cell phones and other electronic devices. Or maybe from his fellow enlisted members abroad in relation to how he was acting before he left for his leave, etc.
 
  • #157
"But two U.S. officials say the military has not yet found any overlap between them at either Fort Bragg or in Afghanistan. They both served there, these officials say, but not at the same time."

What an amazing coincidence though (And I am not saying it is not just a coincidence)- two members of the military, rented from the same app, use the same method more or less, on the same day
 
  • #158
I haven't heard anybody suggest that Matt Livelsberger may have been the victim here. I've seen TV shows where the bomb was strapped to the victim and he was forced to commit terrorist acts or his family would be killed. He had a newborn baby. Most fathers would do anything to protect their children.
I was posted he talked to his mom about going to Vegas. Maybe in his mind he believed this act was protecting his newborn.

I'm kinda of skimming the thread, but wondering if he made any attempt to get out of the vehicle before it exploded.

My heart breaks for his family. I'm glad he didn't hurt anyone else.
 
  • #159
Perhaps they are both ex-wives as this point, which would be similar to the NOLA perp's situation.

ETA: I noticed that (unlike his latest photos on purportedly his SM) he didn't have arm tattoos yet in 2016.
Good eye for detail there.
 
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Yeah, I don’t think it’s that far removed from one of these guys who lights himself on fire in some sort of significant location.

I’m a bit surprised there’s no sort of note, or social media post, or something like that.

Maybe there is though, and we just haven’t heard about it.
I personally compared him to the guy who lit himself on fire.

I think he was suicidal. He wanted to "go out in style" and "take some people with him". He decided on a relationship that was "in the news". (Musk-Trump) This would guarantee this would be all over the news. (Like the guy who lit himself on fire)
Fortunately, the "taking people with him" failed.
He did succeed in "going out in style".
 

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