NY - $250m fraud against Former President Donald Trump, Trump Org., Eric, Donald Jr., Sept 2022, Trial 2 Oct 2023, #2

[arielilane]

Good morning from New York. Another week of Trump's civil fraud trial begins with a defense witness: David Miller, an insurance executive the state unsuccessfully tried to block. Recap linked below and live coverage ahead,
@TheMessenger

https://twitter.com/x/status/1726616206084636963

https://twitter.com/KlasfeldReports

One was former President Donald Trump’s longtime golf buddy and business associate since the mid-1990s, who served as a delegate to the 2016 Republican National Convention from Connecticut.

Another was the longtime real-estate "pal” who was a multi-million-dollar donor to Trump’s campaign and political action committees.

Trump Political and Financial Links Abound Behind Line-Up of His Defense Experts

Trump’s experts include a major donor, ex-delegate, and two well-remunerated accountants from an advisory firm

themessenger.com

Updated 11/17/23 06:14 PM ET

 

[tlcya]

Based on the remaining witnesses, the defense team is now planning to rest its case by Dec. 8.
Defense's case running ahead of schedule

 

[Niner]

Tuesday, November 21st:
*Bench Trial continues (Day 33) (@ 10am ET) – NY - New York vs. Donald J. Trump (76/now 77), Donald Trump, Jr. (45) & Eric Trump (38/now 39) & the Trump Organization, Inc. (Allen Weisselberg (75/now 76) & Jeffrey McConney) are being sued by Letitia James, the New York Attorney General, who is leading a civil investigation (which cannot result in criminal charges filed on 9/21/22) & has spent years looking at whether the company committed various acts of fraud over several decades. In the civil case, Ms. James has filed a lawsuit against Trump & two of his children accusing them of "astounding" fraud & deception.
New York is seeking $250 million in financial penalties & asked the court to ban Trump, Donald Trump Jr. & Eric Trump from serving as an officer or director in any corporation registered or licensed in New York. James also requested the court ban the former president & his business from acquiring real estate in New York or from applying for loans from any New York financial institution for five years. James's civil case accuses Trump of lying from 2011 to 2021 about asset values at the Trump Organization, as well as his own net worth, in order to obtain better terms from lenders & insurers.
Lawsuit against: Donald John Trump, Donald Trump, Jr, Eric Trump, Allen Weisselberg, Jeffrey McConney, The Donald J. Trump Revocable Trust, The Trump Organization, Inc., Trump Organization LLC, DJT Holdings LLC, DJT Holinds Managing Memer, Trump Endeavor 12 LLC, 401 North Wabash Venture LLC, Trump Old Post of Fice LLC, 40 Wall Street LLC & Seven Springs LLC.
All charges against Ivanka Trump were dismissed in June, 2023.
Bench Trial began on 10/2/23. Prosecutors rested their case on 11/8/23. Defense began their case on 11/13/23. (could last until 12/22/23 per Judge).
The lawsuit’s remaining 6 counts allege similar acts of fraud (that Trump inflated his assets on statements of financial condition that he submitted to banks & insurers for personal gain).
Judge Arthur F. Engoron presiding / NY State Attorney General Leticia James & senior enforcement counsel Kevin Wallace, Defense attorney Christopher Kise & Jesus Suarez & Alina Habba for Trump, Weisselberg & the rest of the defendants for Trump Org. / Clifford Robert of Robert & Robert PLLC for Donald, Jr. & Eric.
New York appellate court temporarily paused gag orders on Thursday, 11/16/23 & NY AG Letitia James & representatives for Judge Arthur Engoron have until Wednesday, 11/22/23 to file a response to the appellate judge's stay of the limited gag order imposed last month on Trump by Engoron, according to the appellate judge's order. Trump's reply is then due on 11/27/23 before the appellate court decides whether to fully lift the gag order. The civil fraud trial is expected to wrap up in mid-December.
Case & court info & Summary Judgement from 9/21/22 thru 9/28/23 & Bench Trial Day 1-31 (10/2-11/17/23) reference post #238 here:
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/t...r-sept-2022-trial-2-oct-2023-2.695170/page-12
11/20/23 Monday, Bench Trial Day 32: Defense witnesses: David Miller, an expert in insurance underwriting. Former Trump Organization controller & co-defendant Jeffrey McConney & is set to return to the witness stand Tuesday morning.
The defense’s case will likely conclude one week ahead of schedule, according to defense attorney Clifford Robert. Based on the remaining witnesses, the defense team is now planning to rest its case by Dec. 8. Once the defense rests its case, the NY AG has an opportunity to present a rebuttal case, followed by closing arguments from both sides.
For more info see post #245 here:
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/t...r-sept-2022-trial-2-oct-2023-2.695170/page-13
Bench Trial continues on Tuesday, 11/21/23.

 

[sds71]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1727007835303866420

 

[Inthedetails]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1727007835303866420

"The witness was Jeffrey McConney, Trump Org's ex-comptroller and spreadsheet czar. McConney had been called to the witness stand by the defense, but on cross-examination by lawyers for the state attorney general's office Tuesday, he linked Trump firmly to the conspiracy and fraud counts that have yet to be decided in the non-jury trial."

Donald Trump has worst day yet in NY civil fraud trial as underling's scribbled note ties him to conspiracy

In testimony Tuesday, Jeffrey McConney linked Trump directly to the fuzzy math.

www.yahoo.com

 

[Niner]

Trump civil fraud case: Judge fines Trump $354 million, says frauds 'shock the conscience'

Get updates from the trial of former President Trump in the civil fraud suit brought by New York Attorney General Letitia James.

abcnews.go.com

Nov. 21, 2023
....
After two days of testimony for the defense, former Trump Organization controller Jeff McConney stepped off the witness stand.

Judge Arthur Engoron then adjourned court until Monday. [11/27/23]

When court resumes after the Thanksgiving break, the defense plans to call two Trump Organization executives, followed by several Deutsche Bank employees.

 

[sds71]

Death threats & antisemitic rants "inundated" Justice Engoron & his law clerk after Donald Trump attacked them on social media, says top NY court security official, citing 275 transcribed pages.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1727406452665618505

https://twitter.com/x/status/1727406457564680222

 

[Inthedetails]

Death threats & antisemitic rants "inundated" Justice Engoron & his law clerk after Donald Trump attacked them on social media, says top NY court security official, citing 275 transcribed pages.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1727406452665618505

https://twitter.com/x/status/1727406457564680222

And people have wondered why Trump is "targeted" in attempts to limit his attack speech. One huge reason is that he reaches millions, and some of his supporters take his speech as marching orders. The vast majority of defendants do not have such the reach and influence that Trump does, and he is completely irresponsible with his position.

Oh, but it's "political" to hold the defendant accountable.

jmo

 

[sds71]

And people have wondered why Trump is "targeted" in attempts to limit his attack speech. One huge reason is that he reaches millions, and some of his supporters take his speech as marching orders. The vast majority of defendants do not have such the reach and influence that Trump does, and he is completely irresponsible with his position.

Oh, but it's "political" to hold the defendant accountable.

jmo

Here’s the motion with voicemail transcripts:

https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/ViewDocument?docIndex=inVGdvHSdXKWMxr30v8AXw==

 

[MyBelle]

And people have wondered why Trump is "targeted" in attempts to limit his attack speech. One huge reason is that he reaches millions, and some of his supporters take his speech as marching orders. The vast majority of defendants do not have such the reach and influence that Trump does, and he is completely irresponsible with his position.

Oh, but it's "political" to hold the defendant accountable.

jmo

My objection to the various lawsuits against Trump is that they appear to be politically motivated, and taxpayers are having to pick up the tab. All it is accomplishing is his popularity with his cult followers increases. These prosecutors need to give taxpayers a break.

Let voters have a voice just as we did in 2020.

JMO

 

[minusfour]

My objection to the various lawsuits against Trump is that they appear to be politically motivated, and taxpayers are having to pick up the tab. All it is accomplishing is his popularity with his cult followers increases. These prosecutors need to give taxpayers a break.

Let voters have a voice just as we did in 2020.

JMO

He has refused to hear the voice of the voters. So has most of the GOP, and his cult followers. He tried to stage a coup, gave away classified information to impress a rich Australian, and retained classified documents in his bathroom. He has been found to be a rapist, and a fraud.I think he needs to be tried on the Jan 6th case, the election interference, and the classified documents cases at least. Much of the cult might not believe it, but I think he needs to be really exposed for who and what he is, for the nation's sake.

 

[Inthedetails]

My objection to the various lawsuits against Trump is that they appear to be politically motivated, and taxpayers are having to pick up the tab. All it is accomplishing is his popularity with his cult followers increases. These prosecutors need to give taxpayers a break.

Let voters have a voice just as we did in 2020.

JMO

If the prosecutors considered popularity polls of the defendants, that would be political.

Fortunately, the prosecutors are doing their jobs under the rule of law, not following mob rule or political-pollster rule.

There is nothing stopping anyone from voting for this defendant (assuming he's on the ballot).

Rule of law is an expensive system, true. I'm grateful for it, as alternatives have a price I don't think any of us actually want.


jmo

 

[sds71]

On Thanksgiving, Trump attacks the judge’s clerk in his civil fraud trial by name—a day after the court released some of the deluge of antisemitic threats she’s gotten.In a sworn affidavit, a court officer said these threats spike when he attacks her.

In a sworn affidavit, a court officer said these threats spike when he attacks her:

One final note: The court officer added in the sworn affidavit that the clerk’s personal cell phone and email have been compromised from “daily doxing”—and she receives up to 30 calls and 50 messages a day, which once again, spike after attacks like these.

https://x.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1727688191447118109?s=20

https://x.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1727698049483317454?s=20

Trump's Attacks on New York Judge and His Clerk 'Exponentially' Spiked 'Credible' Threats, Appeals Court Told

Since Trump smeared the judge's clerk, she received "hundreds" of "harassing, disparaging comments" and "antisemitic tropes."

themessenger.com

 

[Cubby]

I hope 2024 is the last of him! IMO

I hope 2023 is the last of him.

 

[Cubby]

Well, that’s absolutely terrifying.

It is, but as often as he utters it, I think his base is hearing, "wolf, wolf".
It's entirely possible all the reports of his leading polls are nothing more than bs to stoke his ego. Considering there are likely as many wack job anti Trumpers as there are supporters he's likely endangering himself and his family the more he utters this nonsense. He's still his own worst enemy.

 

[Cubby]

I read this through several times to make sure I was actually reading it correctly. I guess I'm still struggling to wrap my mind around how he's just saying it right out in the open now, IMO. MOO




Truly terrifying IMO. I hope for truth and justice to prevail before more damage can be done JMO

At this point, it's been almost 3 years since 01/06/21. I think it's more like the big bad wolf huffing and puffing at this point. If something was going to happen it probably would have already. Not that we should be complacent. I just think a repeat is most likely just wishful thinking on Trump's part.

 

[Stunned]

At this point, it's been almost 3 years since 01/06/21. I think it's more like the big bad wolf huffing and puffing at this point. If something was going to happen it probably would have already. Not that we should be complacent. I just think a repeat is most likely just wishful thinking on Trump's part.

We The People can only hope you’re right.

 

[MyBelle]

He has refused to hear the voice of the voters. So has most of the GOP, and his cult followers. He tried to stage a coup, gave away classified information to impress a rich Australian, and retained classified documents in his bathroom. He has been found to be a rapist, and a fraud.I think he needs to be tried on the Jan 6th case, the election interference, and the classified documents cases at least. Much of the cult might not believe it, but I think he needs to be really exposed for who and what he is, for the nation's sake.

The problem I see is that he's facing all these trials--which he uses as free campaign advertising--and there is bound to be at least one cultist on the jury.

JMO

 

[minusfour]

The problem I see is that he's facing all these trials--which he uses as free campaign advertising--and there is bound to be at least one cultist on the jury.

JMO

I understand, and haven't got any great answers. The New York trial is judge only, and I think being exposed as a bad business manager, and losing a lot of his assets will hurt. The cult followers are a minority. Hopefully, more reasonable voters might be following the trials, and making better decisions. The free campaign advertising has not, I believe, been as effective as he would hope. I can't link it, and am not sure if the Legal AF podcast is accepted here, but I did hear on that about a month ago that Biden had raised twice as much money as Trump in the last three months.

What do you do with a problem like Donald Trump, and whoever is following his lead? We just have to hope that the legal system, and the constitution, can deal with this.(I worry, what if he ignores the voter's voice at the next election too?)

 

[Niner]

Monday, November 27th:
*Bench Trial continues (Day 34) (@ 10am ET) – NY - New York vs. Donald J. Trump (76/now 77), Donald Trump, Jr. (45) & Eric Trump (38/now 39) & the Trump Organization, Inc. (Allen Weisselberg (75/now 76) & Jeffrey McConney) are being sued by Letitia James, the New York Attorney General, who is leading a civil investigation (which cannot result in criminal charges filed on 9/21/22) & has spent years looking at whether the company committed various acts of fraud over several decades. In the civil case, Ms. James has filed a lawsuit against Trump & two of his children accusing them of "astounding" fraud & deception.
New York is seeking $250 million in financial penalties & asked the court to ban Trump, Donald Trump Jr. & Eric Trump from serving as an officer or director in any corporation registered or licensed in New York. James also requested the court ban the former president & his business from acquiring real estate in New York or from applying for loans from any New York financial institution for five years. James's civil case accuses Trump of lying from 2011 to 2021 about asset values at the Trump Organization, as well as his own net worth, in order to obtain better terms from lenders & insurers.
Lawsuit against: Donald John Trump, Donald Trump, Jr, Eric Trump, Allen Weisselberg, Jeffrey McConney, The Donald J. Trump Revocable Trust, The Trump Organization, Inc., Trump Organization LLC, DJT Holdings LLC, DJT Holinds Managing Memer, Trump Endeavor 12 LLC, 401 North Wabash Venture LLC, Trump Old Post of Fice LLC, 40 Wall Street LLC & Seven Springs LLC.
All charges against Ivanka Trump were dismissed in June, 2023.
Bench Trial began on 10/2/23. Prosecutors rested their case on 11/8/23. Defense began their case on 11/13/23. (could last until 12/22/23 per Judge).
The lawsuit’s remaining 6 counts allege similar acts of fraud (that Trump inflated his assets on statements of financial condition that he submitted to banks & insurers for personal gain).
Judge Arthur F. Engoron presiding / NY State Attorney General Leticia James & senior enforcement counsel Kevin Wallace, Defense attorney Christopher Kise & Jesus Suarez & Alina Habba for Trump, Weisselberg & the rest of the defendants for Trump Org. / Clifford Robert of Robert & Robert PLLC for Donald, Jr. & Eric.
New York appellate court temporarily paused gag orders on Thursday, 11/16/23 & NY AG Letitia James & representatives for Judge Arthur Engoron have until Wednesday, 11/22/23 to file a response to the appellate judge's stay of the limited gag order imposed last month on Trump by Engoron, according to the appellate judge's order. Trump's reply is then due on 11/27/23 before the appellate court decides whether to fully lift the gag order. The civil fraud trial is expected to wrap up in mid-December.
Case & court info & Summary Judgement from 9/21/22 thru 9/28/23 & Bench Trial Day 1-32 (10/2-11/20/23) reference post #243 here:
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/t...r-sept-2022-trial-2-oct-2023-2.695170/page-13
11/21/23 Tuesday, Bench Trial Day 33: Defense witnesses: Former Trump Organization controller & co-defendant Jeffrey McConney back on stand.
For more info see post #246 here:
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/t...r-sept-2022-trial-2-oct-2023-2.695170/page-13
The court is set to adjourn until it resumes on Monday following the holiday. When court resumes after the Thanksgiving break, the defense plans to call two Trump Organization executives, followed by several Deutsche Bank employees.
Bench Trial continues on Monday, 11/27/23.