NY - Ex-President Donald Trump, charged with 34 criminal counts of falsifying business records, Apr 2023, Trial 25 Mar 2024 #2

[Elliot_Alderson]

David Pecker says he signed a cooperation letter with the Manhattan DA's office — something not previously known.The agreement was signed Oct. 25 2019, well before current District Attorney Alvin Bragg was elected in 2021.

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But wait...I thought Bragg started pursuing this case AFTER DT said he's running for President again.

 

[ilovewings]

But wait...I thought Bragg started pursuing this case AFTER DT said he's running for President again.

Who said that, Fox News?

 

[Elliot_Alderson]

Who said that, Fox News?

Posters in this thread.

 

[Leilei]

I don’t know, maybe it’s better to let him work his way up to jail time, now that the judge has made rulings on the gag order. I worry if the judge jails him all the nut jobs will go crazy with the guns. They’re really nutty and jumpy in the area where I live.

Something mentioned on CNN is that the judge can jail him after the trial is over. His honor has a few options available, IMO.

 

[legalmomma]

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Note: Judge Merchan warns Trump that if he continues to violate the order, the Court “will impose an incarceratory punishment.”

 

[legalmomma]

Trump trial live updates: Judge threatens Trump with jail for further gag order violations

The latest news and live updates on Day 9 of the Trump hush money trial as testimony about the former president continues.

www.nbcnews.com

Judge Merchan ordered Trump to remove the posts from Truth Social that violated the gag order by 2:15 p.m. ET.

 

[legalmomma]

Trump trial live updates: Judge threatens Trump with jail for further gag order violations

The latest news and live updates on Day 9 of the Trump hush money trial as testimony about the former president continues.

www.nbcnews.com

It's notable that the judge decided to allow Trump to attend Barron's graduation on May 17, since Trump and his campaign had earlier been claiming that the judge had barred him from doing so.

During the first week of trial, Trump told reporters: "My son is graduating high school, and it looks like the judge will not let me go to the graduation."

His campaign also sent out a text that read: "THEY ARE FORCING ME TO SKIP MY SON’S GRADUATION. I’LL BE IN COURT."

That text was wrong. The judge had not yet made a decision.

 

[MyBelle]

These days I really think it will be overturned and sooner than we think. The decision inevitably and predictably created a very corrupt system. According to expert analysis at the time, the decision claiming money is free speech is flawed. There is nothing in the Constitution that comes close to allowing such a broad definition of speech. It has to be reversed because, technically, it can also allow any act to be considered “speech”, even robbing a bank.

There have been some interesting studies about court reform. Some ideas include expanding the number of justices along with term limits to avoid allowing one POTUS to revamp the entire court. Instead the appointments would be staggered along a schedule. I think the terms would need to be long. The danger of any term limits is the danger of checkbook politics where wealthy special interest would purchase new

BBM. I sure hope you are right! I'm appalled at how corrupt politics has become on both sides of the aisle.

JMO

 

[BayouBelle_LA]

Posters in this thread.

I think people here have been around long enough to know a ‘case’ of this magnitude wasn’t created in four months.

What has been said or alluded to was that it wasn’t filed until after he announced his 2024 run. That is a fact. I linked in a previous post the date of his announcement.

 

[ilovewings]

Posters in this thread.

Where did they get their info? they got it from somewhere- which of course Fox News would be one purveyor of false information

 

[MyBelle]

But wait...I thought Bragg started pursuing this case AFTER DT said he's running for President again.

iirc, Bragg got a Grand Jury indictment after DT announced his candidacy.

JMO

 

[Kudzuu]

I don’t know, maybe it’s better to let him work his way up to jail time, now that the judge has made rulings on the gag order. I worry if the judge jails him all the nut jobs will go crazy with the guns. They’re really nutty and jumpy in the area where I live.

Betty P I think we are neighbors!

 

[meanmaryjean]

Trump trial live updates: Judge threatens Trump with jail for further gag order violations

The latest news and live updates on Day 9 of the Trump hush money trial as testimony about the former president continues.

www.nbcnews.com

It's notable that the judge decided to allow Trump to attend Barron's graduation on May 17, since Trump and his campaign had earlier been claiming that the judge had barred him from doing so.

During the first week of trial, Trump told reporters: "My son is graduating high school, and it looks like the judge will not let me go to the graduation."

His campaign also sent out a text that read: "THEY ARE FORCING ME TO SKIP MY SON’S GRADUATION. I’LL BE IN COURT."



That text was wrong. The judge had not yet made a decision.

You know he's double pissed now because he had no intention of attending. And now those grads will have the focus taken off them and onto him which is unfortunate.

 

[Niner]

I shall use this article as my references in my notes.

‘Did he cheat on Melania?’: Trump hush-money trial hears exchanges between National Enquirer and Karen McDougal’s ex-lawyer – live

Keith Davidson, who represented McDougal and Stormy Daniels, tells court about text messages with Dylan Howard

www.theguardian.com

Remember - no court on Wednesdays....

They still have a gag order hearing on Wednesday, don't they?

I do not believe so - plus it was changed to 5/2 - but - since the Judge ruled on his contempt on the gag order - no - no hearing needed!

 

[legalmomma]

Trump trial live updates: Judge threatens Trump with jail for further gag order violations

The latest news and live updates on Day 9 of the Trump hush money trial as testimony about the former president continues.

www.nbcnews.com

Judge Merchan ordered Trump to remove the posts from Truth Social that violated the gag order by 2:15 p.m. ET.

The posts that Merchan ordered Trump to take down are now gone​

Isabelle Schmeler and Kyla Guilfoil
As of 1:24 p.m. ET, all of the Truth Social and campaign website posts that Judge Merchan ordered Trump to remove by 2:15 p.m. ET today have been taken down.
Merchan ruled this morning that the posts had violated Trump's gag order and fined the former president $9,000 — $1,000 for each offending post. The judge also threatened Trump with possible jail time if he continues to violate the order.

 

[BayouBelle_LA]

You know he's double pissed now because he had no intention of attending. And now those grads will have the focus taken off them and onto him which is unfortunate.

Claim:

Former President Donald Trump has not attended any of his children's high school or college graduation ceremonies, as of April 2024.

Rating:

False (About this rating?)

Context:

Trump has been present at each of his children's high school and college graduations, according to contemporaneous reports and the recollections of other attendees.

MSN

 

[Deleted member 39678]

I think people here have been around long enough to know a ‘case’ of this magnitude wasn’t created in four months.

What has been said or alluded to was that it wasn’t filed until after he announced his 2024 run. That is a fact. I linked in a previous post the date of his announcement.

Correct. The previous DA Cyrus Vance did not file charges.

Jan. 1, 2022
Bragg takes office as Manhattan's new district attorney. Before leaving office, Vance does not bring charges against Trump.

Timeline: Manhattan DA's Stormy Daniels hush money case against Donald Trump

Here's a look at a timeline of Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg's investigation into former President Donald Trump and the Stormy Daniels hush money case.

abcnews.go.com

DA Bragg filed the charges in April 2023.

Read all of the charges against Trump in the New York hush-money case

The indictment, the first ever for a former U.S. president, stems from a grand jury investigation into hush money paid before Trump was elected president.

www.pbs.org

President Trump announced that he was running again in the 2024 election in November 2022.

https://www.npr.org/2022/11/15/1137052704/trump-2024-president-campaign

 

[ilovewings]

The posts that Merchan ordered Trump to take down are now gone​

Isabelle Schmeler and Kyla Guilfoil
As of 1:24 p.m. ET, all of the Truth Social and campaign website posts that Judge Merchan ordered Trump to remove by 2:15 p.m. ET today have been taken down.
Merchan ruled this morning that the posts had violated Trump's gag order and fined the former president $9,000 — $1,000 for each offending post. The judge also threatened Trump with possible jail time if he continues to violate the order.

Good going judge --- threatened with jail time- love it--- hopefully that will finally put an end to the gag violations-- if not-----I hope the judge follows thru with his threat of jail time!

 

[BayouBelle_LA]

Correct. The previous DA Cyrus Vance did not file charges.

Timeline: Manhattan DA's Stormy Daniels hush money case against Donald Trump

Here's a look at a timeline of Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg's investigation into former President Donald Trump and the Stormy Daniels hush money case.

abcnews.go.com

DA Bragg filed the charges in April 2023.

Read all of the charges against Trump in the New York hush-money case

The indictment, the first ever for a former U.S. president, stems from a grand jury investigation into hush money paid before Trump was elected president.

www.pbs.org

President Trump announced that he was running again in the 2024 election in November 2022.

https://www.npr.org/2022/11/15/1137052704/trump-2024-president-campaign

Thanks for all the helpful links, timeline and context. Much appreciated!

 

[JennieM]

6m ago

Cohen said 'I'll just do it myself' after delay over Stormy Daniels payment, testifies Davidson​

Victoria Bekiempis

Keith Davidson said that although the Stormy Daniels deal had been finalized by early October, they were waiting for Michael Cohen to send over the money.

On 17 October, 2017, Davidson told Cohen in an email:

We spoke on Friday October 14 and you said that funds would be wired today. No funds have been received as of sending this email. My client informs me that she intends to cancel the contract if no funds are received by 5pm pacific time today.

Cohen came up with excuse after excuse. Davidson recalled Cohen complaining:

He stated that the computer systems were quote ‘all up’ …. The Secret Service is in here, they’ve got so many firewalls.

Cohen said at some point, “my guy’s in five states today … there’s nothing I can do, I’m doing everything I can.” It wasn’t enough and eventually, Cohen said:

God damn it, I’ll just do it myself.

Michael Cohen said ‘I’ll just do it myself’ after delay of Stormy Daniels payment, her ex-lawyer tells court – live

Keith Davidson tells hush-money trial deal to keep Daniels quiet agreed in early October 2017 but payment delayed several times

www.theguardian.com