OH - Annabelle Richardson, newborn, found in shallow grave, Carlisle, 7 May 2017 #2

[gitana1]

I wonder if she is now (in interrogations) doubting that the baby was truly dead. This line of questioning would lead me to think maybe I was wrong, even tho I never felt a heartbeat, heard breathing, saw movement. But she held her for quite some time if I recall correctly, and a living baby would have had some reaction in that time.

I seriously doubt she purposely killed a living baby, the more I think through this. For me, it is burying the baby and keeping the birth/burial secret that is her crime.

ETA.... the only plausible explanation I can come up with if the baby was alive is that she "held her too tight" (against her own body perhaps, if we pay attention to her body signals during the questioning) and the baby was smothered. Tho she never says she heard any real signs of life after removing baby from toilet area.

To me it's way too coincidental that:

1. She was adamant she couldn't have a child when told she was pregnant;
2. She was smart enough and quick enough on her feet to lie and ask the doctor to fill a useless birth control prescription so her mom wouldn't find out she was pregnant;
3. She researched how to get rid of a baby:
4. She fits the profile of neonaticides 100%;
5. She did not contact the doctor for follow up appointments;
6. She was counseled about adoption but made no efforts to make a plan for the birth or what to do with the baby after;
7. She failed to call for help when giving birth;
8. She failed to call for help when supposedly discovering her child was stillborn.
9. She put her naked baby's body in a shallow pit -no blanket or even a towel;
10. She showed joy and relief "I'm happy!" And pride in her deflated stomach directly after giving birth to a supposed stillborn who she claims to have lovingly held and carefully named and put flowers on her grave.
11. She has an inperious, cold, controlling and punitive mother which is common with neonaticdes;
12. She admitted she did not want the baby to LE;
13. She made qualifying statements during interrogation about not meaning to hurt it. Not meaning to kill her baby;
14. She "squeezed" her baby, and;

She just happened to luck out and have a stillborn baby she never wanted and stated she could not have.

It's too much of a coincidence to me.

But I think the jury coming back with a finding of first degree murder is not going to happen. As I predicted the most she will be sentenced to is a couple years at best and do a few months time of that sentence. If anything.

While we don't need COD to prove murder when there's an alternate that is plausible, it becomes more important to the jury.

And the mother of Skylar is a catch-22. She is exactly the kind of mother that causes young women and girls to kill their newborns right after birth and conceal the pregnancy and birth.

But having that kind of mother will likely cause the jury to feel a lot of sympathy for her. It has for me.

She's good for the state but she is also a living breathing mitigator, IMO.

 

[iluvmua]

I haven't watched the 2nd police interview. I have watched many police interview though. From reading the post here I doubt that the detective persuaded Skylar into a false confession. Most detectives I have seen behave in the same manner. jmo moo

I agree. They are not putting words into her mouth.

They read her her rights and made sure she understood them.

This is not a false confession

 

[princessdana]

To me it's way too coincidental that:

1. She was adamant she couldn't have a child when told she was pregnant;
2. She was smart enough and quick enough on her feet to lie and ask the doctor to fill a useless birth control prescription so her mom wouldn't find out she was pregnant;
3. She researched how to get rid of a baby:
4. She fits the profile of neonaticides 100%;
5. She did not contact the doctor for follow up appointments;
6. She was counseled about adoption but made no efforts to make a plan for the birth or what to do with the baby after;
7. She failed to call for help when giving birth;
8. She failed to call for help when supposedly discovering her child was stillborn.
9. She put her naked baby's body in a shallow pit -no blanket or even a towel;
10. She showed joy and relief "I'm happy!" And pride in her deflated stomach directly after giving birth to a supposed stillborn who she claims to have lovingly held and carefully named and put flowers on her grave.
11. She has an inperious, cold, controlling and punitive mother which is common with neonaticdes;
12. She admitted she did not want the baby to LE;
13. She made qualifying statements during interrogation about not meaning to hurt it. Not meaning to kill her baby;
14. She "squeezed" her baby, and;

She just happened to luck out and have a stillborn baby she never wanted and stated she could not have.

It's too much of a coincidence to me.

But I think the jury coming back with a finding of first degree murder is not going to happen. As I predicted the most she will be sentenced to is a couple years at best and do a few months time of that sentence. If anything.

While we don't need COD to prove murder when there's an alternate that is plausible, it becomes more important to the jury.

And the mother of Skylar is a catch-22. She is exactly the kind of mother that causes young women and girls to kill their newborns right after birth and conceal the pregnancy and birth.

But having that kind of mother will likely cause the jury to feel a lot of sympathy for her. It has for me.

She's good for the state but she is also a living breathing mitigator, IMO.

 

[SeesSeas]

I didn't hear anything in the background (although I have been able to hear "gasps" while watching other trials). Anyone here who is watching live hear comments from gallery??

I haven't heard any "comments" from anyone in the gallery. I think it's likely that the problem behavior is visual, not audible. . . eye rolling, zealous head-shaking and head-nodding. When I've attended live trials, I've noticed this problem, even with a prosecutor's wife sitting next to me vigorously nodding/shaking her head and easily visible by jurors.

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#SkylarRichardson - Before they broke for lunch the judge told the jury they may notice more security after they return from lunch. He said he's patience is being exhausted by some members of the gallery:

 

[princessdana]

yes she won't be found guilty of murder because they can't prove it. she will be convicted of child neglect for failure to get proper prenatal care and failure to call 911 to help her baby if she was unresponsive and not breathing, and for improper disposal of a baby. she put her old life before her babies new life and that is what is so sad to me.

 

[lonetraveler]

I was shocked that NO ONE asked her what her plan was had the baby come out with healthy lungs and screaming! How would she have covered up or dealt with in the middle of the night??

This has been my question all along and I'm very surprised that I haven't heard this question asked of the defendant. I really would like to know what the next step would have been after the birth if the baby was alive. IMO, she had no intentions of revealing that she had had a baby.

 

[Jewels53]

Lauren Pack@LPack JN
Rittgers pointing out Faine disciplined fro conduct unbecoming a police officer during the course of the investigation as well as posting on Facebook sites
@journalnews

Next witness is Brandon Saylor.
@journalnews

Saylor was Skylar's boyfriend in Jan. 30, 2017
@journalnews

Jury seeing pics of Richardson and Saylor together during spring break 2017
@journalnews

 

[Jewels53]

Lauren Pack@LPack JN
Jury seeing pics of Richardson and Saylor together during spring break 2017
@journalnews

A pic of smiling Richardson with a heart was Saylor's contact in his phone.
@journalnews

Saylor said he had not idea she was pregnant when they were in a relationship in 2017, not even when he took her to the prom.
@journalnews

Saylor, "I would say so," when asked by the prosecutor looking at the prom photo now does Richardson look pregnant.
@journalnews

 

[osu]

DBM

 

[Spellbound]

More like had to poop.

For some, yes. For me it was a constant need to pee, or so I thought.

 

[princessdana]

Lauren Pack@LPack JN
Jury seeing pics of Richardson and Saylor together during spring break 2017
@journalnews

A pic of smiling Richardson with a heart was Saylor's contact in his phone.
@journalnews

Saylor said he had not idea she was pregnant when they were in a relationship in 2017, not even when he took her to the prom.
@journalnews

Saylor, "I would say so," when asked by the prosecutor looking at the prom photo now does Richardson look pregnant.
@journalnews

 

[Hope4More]

To me it's way too coincidental that:

1. She was adamant she couldn't have a child when told she was pregnant;

The DR testified he couldn't be sure Skylar said that more than one time. A once or twice exclamation of "I can't!!! seems entirely normal, IMO, especially given all the circumstances.

2. She was smart enough and quick enough on her feet to lie and ask the doctor to fill a useless birth control prescription so her mom wouldn't find out she was pregnant;

There was no quick or smart about asking the DR to fill the script. Skylar told LE she had already thought she might be pregnant before she went to the appointment, but she didn't know/was in denial (take your pick). She asked for the script to be filled before she did the urine test.

3. She researched how to get rid of a baby:

But...for starters, she didn't act on whatever she read.

4. She fits the profile of neonaticides 100%;
5. She did not contact the doctor for follow up appointments;

The DR told her she had 6-8 weeks before the baby was due. The DR asked her to make a single appointment, for the week after her initial visit. She gave birth 11 days after that visit. IMO eleven days wasn't a whole lot of time for her to process the situation she was in, especially for someone that age, when tomorrow is always the best time to do what you don't want to do, deal with what you don't want to face.

6. She was counseled about adoption but made no efforts to make a plan for the birth or what to do with the baby after;

She gave birth 11 days after that visit. IMO eleven days wasn't a whole lot of time for her to process the situation she was in, especially for someone that age, when tomorrow is always the best time to do what you don't want to do, deal with what you don't want to face. ​

7. She failed to call for help when giving birth;
8. She failed to call for help when supposedly discovering her child was stillborn.
9. She put her naked baby's body in a shallow pit -no blanket or even a towel;
10. She showed joy and relief "I'm happy!" And pride in her deflated stomach directly after giving birth to a supposed stillborn who she claims to have lovingly held and carefully named and put flowers on her grave.
11. She has an inperious, cold, controlling and punitive mother which is common with neonaticdes;
12. She admitted she did not want the baby to LE;
13. She made qualifying statements during interrogation about not meaning to hurt it. Not meaning to kill her baby;
14. She "squeezed" her baby, and;

She just happened to luck out and have a stillborn baby she never wanted and stated she could not have.

It's too much of a coincidence to me.

But I think the jury coming back with a finding of first degree murder is not going to happen. As I predicted the most she will be sentenced to is a couple years at best and do a few months time of that sentence. If anything.

While we don't need COD to prove murder when there's an alternate that is plausible, it becomes more important to the jury.

And the mother of Skylar is a catch-22. She is exactly the kind of mother that causes young women and girls to kill their newborns right after birth and conceal the pregnancy and birth.

But having that kind of mother will likely cause the jury to feel a lot of sympathy for her. It has for me.

She's good for the state but she is also a living breathing mitigator, IMO.

Thanks for listing the reasons why you believe Skylar is guilty of the premeditated murder of her baby. I don't agree with your conclusion, but it helps to know how/why you reached it. The bolded are a few quick rebuttals of specific points.

 

[princessdana]

can someone post the pictures

 

[osu]

Full Transcripts of 1st Interrogation Video -
July 14, 2017

Part 1 of 2:

https://storage.googleapis.com/www-...uly-14-2017-interview-with-police-pg-1-42.pdf

Part 2 of 2:

https://storage.googleapis.com/www-...y-14-2017-interview-with-police-pg-43-109.pdf



https://www.courttv.com/news/oh-v-richardson-interrogation-video-transcript/

 

[iluvmua]

There is that text to her boyfriend that she is soooooo happy.

 

[Hope4More]

This has been my question all along and I'm very surprised that I haven't heard this question asked of the defendant. I really would like to know what the next step would have been after the birth if the baby was alive. IMO, she had no intentions of revealing that she had had a baby.

Whether or not you believe her, she did answer this question. She didn't know she was about to give birth when she went into the bathroom. She didn't have a plan. She thought she had weeks more to figure out what to do. The only choice we know with certainty she made that night was not to ask for help after she delivered her baby.

 

[AllyBeeUK]

Whether or not you believe her, she did answer this question. She didn't know she was about to give birth when she went into the bathroom. She didn't have a plan. She thought she had weeks more to figure out what to do. The only choice we know with certainty she made that night was not to ask for help after she delivered her baby.

IMO the lack of plan shows that she was most likely in denial and not ready to deal with the situation and what ever happened on the night in question was pure happenstance. If she was planning all along to kill the baby she sure was lucky to go into labour under cover of darkness and not while she was out shopping with her mum or hanging out with her boyfriend.

 

[Spellbound]

can someone post the pictures

 

[osu]

“I'll tell you all about it later but last night was like the worst ever and i didn't go to sleep till 5:30 but I feel sooooo much better this morning I'm happy." Richardson text to Saylor. -->

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[Jewels53]

Lauren Pack@LPack JN
Jury viewing text messages between Richardson and Saylor. There was no indicating from her that anything was going on. He says Richardson told him she was having bad cramps that night.
@journalnews

On the morning after Richardson give birth she texted Saylor that it was the worst night ever, "but I feel so much better I am happy."
@journalnews

When the investigation began, Saylor said he say pics of crime scene tape around the Richardson house. In text messages, he reassured her he would not break up with her. But all he knew was that a fetus had been found in the yard.
@journalnews