• #401
After watching some of the body cam footage what is incredibly telling for me is his lack of genuine care and responsibility for the children. During the 911 call, he was not aware of the children. The operator had to really work to find out about their well-being.

On the bodycam footage I was constantly worried the little girls were going to wake up and wander out and find their murdered mother and/or their hysterical father. As a parent surely your primary concern and responsibility is to ensure that when the children woke up they would find comfort and reassurance from you their dad. Their well-being should have been front of mind the whole time. But this didn’t seem to enter his mind. He was completely engrossed in his bereaved husband act and didn’t go into parent mode at all. So telling of the type of father he is.
Well, I suppose that it's kinda a good thing that the girls won't really be missing a good and loving father.
 
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  • #402
Well, I suppose that it's kinda a good thing that the girls won't really be missing a good and loving father.
They will, though. They'll always be missing that.

MOO
 
  • #403
I thought I heard the cop say that when they walked into the room to check on the girls they woke up. I don’t know why they didn’t come out unless the cop told them not to.
 
  • #404
I thought I heard the cop say that when they walked into the room to check on the girls they woke up. I don’t know why they didn’t come out unless the cop told them not to.
I think they went back to sleep.
 
  • #405
I do agree it’s odd the girls didn’t wake up with all those people coming in and out of the house, plus the gun shots, dogs barking and their dad acting hysterical. I do wonder if the cops drug tested them - he would have easily given them some Benadryl before bed (and used the excuse that they were sick)

But I will say, in my experience, a lot of kids, especially under 10, sleep extremely deeply. My own kids are older now but when they were younger they would regularly sleep through crazy wind storms, thunder, really loud car noises driving by our house, the doorbell and they could definitely sleep through our dog barking. I guess it’s actually a good thing the girls were able to sleep through all the commotion, I can’t imagine how terrifying it would be to wake up into that.
 
  • #406
They will, though. They'll always be missing that.

MOO
Truth.
But they will also have to carry hate, guilt, and "what if's" all their lives.
 
  • #407
If the affair rumors are true, I wonder if she found out and that's the real reason he was out on the couch that night.
 
  • #408
If the affair rumors are true, I wonder if she found out and that's the real reason he was out on the couch that night.
But was he really sleeping on the couch that night? Or in his girls room, for that matter, which he says in the 911 video, "when it happened"? DOUBT IT but that's my take on what a LYING crybaby murderer says. I think he was in bed with his wife, starring at the ceiling, waiting for the moment to get up, go get his gun out of the glove box, come back in, shoot his wife, then stage the house.

Two of the LE were talking to each other in the bodycam video and questioning whether or not the gunshots looked fresh. There was doubt expressed.

JMO
 
  • #409
What did he do with the gun after he shot her?
 
  • #410
What did he do with the gun after he shot her?
I don’t think we officially know yet but I remember before he was arrested, the day after or maybe day 2, LE was in their yard and I saw pictures floating around of them digging with a backhoe under the shed in their backyard. So IMO, he tried to bury/hide it under the shed in his own backyard. But nothing has been confirmed about the gun that we officially know yet.
 
  • #411
  • #412
I don’t think we officially know yet but I remember before he was arrested, the day after or maybe day 2, LE was in their yard and I saw pictures floating around of them digging with a backhoe under the shed in their backyard. So IMO, he tried to bury/hide it under the shed in his own backyard. But nothing has been confirmed about the gun that we officially know yet.
On one of the body cam videos, the officer running the drone asked another officer if they found the gun. The answer was no and then the drone operator pointed out the shed on his drone and mentioned something about the corner IIRC.
 
  • #413
That body cam footage is really something. I couldn’t make it through much with all of the (IMO) theatrics. I think it’s perfectly normal to be hysterically sobbing and then be able to collect yourself for a bit and then start sobbing again, but to me he seems like he is intentionally and continually working himself up.
 
  • #414
That body cam footage is really something. I couldn’t make it through much with all of the (IMO) theatrics. I think it’s perfectly normal to be hysterically sobbing and then be able to collect yourself for a bit and then start sobbing again, but to me he seems like he is intentionally and continually working himself up.
I was impressed with the officers
 
  • #415
Does someone have a bodycam link that's not blurred? The one have has been purposely blurred. Not sure if they all are. TIA
 
  • #416
Does someone have a bodycam link that's not blurred? The one have has been purposely blurred. Not sure if they all are. TIA
The ones taken at the home were blurred by LE before they released them IMO. Their method of redacting the content. Most of the outdoor content and during his arrest and booking are clear.
 
  • #417
I find it odd the girls didn't wake up with all the people in the house
I don't think we have any facts about if the girls were sleeping at all or for how long? Has there been any statement about that?

Just because the lying dad told on the phone that they are sleeping and just because we don't see them on video, does not mean they are asleep. They might be (and to me it would not be too suspicious), but they might just stay in bed because dad told them to, because dad was angry and they are afraid, because the parents are often fighting and then they hide in their room, because they heard a lound noise and are scared to exit, or they might, for all I know, have been just playing on their tablets or something, let alone that LE probably wanted to keep them away from the crime scene.
 
  • #418
the female officer in the recently released body cam footage from the scene does seem to support the children slept through all of it. The female officer is heard to say that the children had just woken up when she herself entered their room to check on them.

at 1:22 mark of this video
 
  • #419
If a nonblurred video is available, you could request it from LE and they should send it to you (for free). They’re allowed to charge a certain amount for assembling public records requests, but once they have been assembled and prepared and paid for, all subsequent requests for the same documents/files/records should be free. That said, I agree that this is probably just the way they redact footage taken inside someone’s home.

I’m making it further through the night-of body cam footage. At about 1:09, it seems like a detective comes and talks to Caleb. He says he has a bad cough and that that’s why Ashley told him to sleep on the couch. I’ll note that, other than maybe after he vomits, he has not coughed in the preceding hour of the video, nor on the 911 call. He also says both of his daughters are sick. He woke up, he thinks from the dog collar moving, then went into the girls’ room to lie with them for a little, and that’s where he was when he heard a gunshot. The detective asks him if he saw anyone leave, and he says he froze, it seems like he froze in the daughters’ room. When he “finally got up” he didn’t see anyone but the door to the garage was open. Honestly I’m not sure if there is any point to be listening to this or relaying it since I don’t buy it one the bit. All the while, the dogs are still out and roaming around, which is a little odd to me for this secure crime scene.

There’s a lot of talk about how he doesn’t care about the girls, he doesn’t check on them, etc. and to be frank I don’t think that it’s a lack of caring, I think it’s because he knows they’re fine because he knows he’s the only bad guy in the house and he didn't hurt them. In my opinion, he does display caring by bringing up getting them out of the house while still asleep, and trying to send them with his MIL. I believe that he wanted to limit their exposure to the trauma of that night, whether because he doesn’t want them to be extra traumatized or because it’s more convenient for him or something else.
 

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