GUILTY OH Pike Co., 8 in Rhoden Family Murdered Over Custody Issue, 4 Members Wagner Family Arrested #60

[ohioexpat63]

I think it is certainly plausible these murders were delayed. And AW definitely didnt care for some of her boys posting, after the murders.

 

[Johnny B Bad]

Does any of you Sluthers remember little Chris car on the back of a row back truck with evidence stickers on it

 

[Cool Cats]

I think it is certainly plausible these murders were delayed. And AW definitely didnt care for some of her boys posting, after the murders.

She didn't like George's tiger (an animal) cover photo on his Facebook.

I think she said "really?" And he asked "what's wrong?" She didn't answer.
He changed it to a photo of a car engine. Must please monster ..err...mother.

From George's Facebook.

 

[Johnny B Bad]

She didn't like George's tiger (an animal) cover photo on his Facebook.

I think she said "really?" And he asked "what's wrong?" She didn't answer.

From George's Facebook.

I remember her reply to his lone wolf

 

[ohioexpat63]

Post arrest it puts her seemingly innocuous concerns in perspective.

 

[Johnny B Bad]

CC
Sense you mentioned that, GW4 posted the Lone Wolf photo and it upset Angela I wonder if the Wagners where having trouble among their self, if so GW4 might flip to save his on skin, JMO

 

[ohioexpat63]

I'm hoping one flips so we can get the complete story. Jmo

 

[Cool Cats]

I remember her reply to his lone wolf

I always keep thinking its a tiger! But yes, a wolf....

Makes me think of "wolf in sheep's clothing"

 

[Cool Cats]

CC
Sense you mentioned that, GW4 posted the Lone Wolf photo and it upset Angela I wonder if the Wagners where having trouble among their self, if so GW4 might flip to save his on skin, JMO

I'm hoping one flips so we can get the complete story. Jmo

This has been the running question ... will George flip? Usually it's George who is mentioned.

George's lawyer blames Jake and Angela and I think George will let him take this to trial and pin it on Jake and Angie, especially if Jake is found guilty.

Attorney Richard Nash:

First off I want to apologize ah, an hour and a half ago I felt like stopping this to remind the court that this isn't about Jake Wagner this isn't about Angela Wagner, this is about George Wagner the 4th.

But I figured it would be best to just say nothing to see what this is really all about. And so this is why we heard so much testimony regarding order history, regarding who bought what, who did what, who had motive, whose child was in question.

There's been a lot of testimony regarding whose account was used or whose rewards was used, nothing pointing in the direction of George Wagner.

Ah, there is some testimony regarding a palm print on a gun, there's no testimony that that was George Wagner's hand.

Not only that but there was a list soposedly that was retrieved from a phone but more importantly not George Wagner's phone.

Ah, there was evidence regarding a solvent catcher or suppressor or again a 22 caliber. Testimony we heard here today had nothing to do with George.

Really your honor, this whole case, if there is a case, and I'm not saying it is, but it's about Edward Jake Wagner and Angela Wagner.

The only testimony we heard, and we can boil it down to one minute, and that's that they did everything together. And therefore based on that, they want the court to believe that the presumption is great that George Wagner was involved in a homicide.

 

[Ann99]

This has been the running question ... will George flip? Usually it's George who is mentioned.

George's lawyer blames Jake and Angela and I think George will let him take this to trial and pin it on Jake and Angie, especially if Jake is found guilty.

Attorney Richard Nash:

First off I want to apologize ah, an hour and a half ago I felt like stopping this to remind the court that this isn't about Jake Wagner this isn't about Angela Wagner, this is about George Wagner the 4th.

But I figured it would be best to just say nothing to see what this is really all about. And so this is why we heard so much testimony regarding order history, regarding who bought what, who did what, who had motive, whose child was in question.

There's been a lot of testimony regarding whose account was used or whose rewards was used, nothing pointing in the direction of George Wagner.

Ah, there is some testimony regarding a palm print on a gun, there's no testimony that that was George Wagner's hand.

Not only that but there was a list soposedly that was retrieved from a phone but more importantly not George Wagner's phone.

Ah, there was evidence regarding a solvent catcher or suppressor or again a 22 caliber. Testimony we heard here today had nothing to do with George.

Really your honor, this whole case, if there is a case, and I'm not saying it is, but it's about Edward Jake Wagner and Angela Wagner.

The only testimony we heard, and we can boil it down to one minute, and that's that they did everything together. And therefore based on that, they want the court to believe that the presumption is great that George Wagner was involved in a homicide.

Yes, I think George will flip, but after evidence is revealed at JW trial, possibly he will flip during JW trial as the picture becomes very clear.

 

[Dudly]

Didnt DS also talk about marijuana being taken from an outbuilding on the land, in one of his interviews.? This has been so long ago it is hard to remember fact from fiction.

If marijuana was stolen, how does that fit the UHR crime scenes?

If this is total rumor I apologize in advance

How would he have known some was taken without knowing it was there before that night? Things could have been taken from all the scenes but the only way to know that is to know it was there before that night.
He did say he found a flat of plants in the garage...

 

[Ann99]

She didn't like George's tiger (an animal) cover photo on his Facebook.

I think she said "really?" And he asked "what's wrong?" She didn't answer.
He changed it to a photo of a car engine. Must please monster ..err...mother.

From George's Facebook.

Been thinking about the Wolf.
Was there a meaning to the Wolf, just like we wonder about the Scorpion meaning?
Cool Cats post above, "wolf in sheeps clothing" is a real possibility.
Any thoughts?
Theory - a wolf is a predator, wolves hunt in a pack usually at night.
Wolves are totally loyal to their pack.

ALL Theory. MO.

Question, Does GW have a Wolf Tat?

I have one more THEORY on the Wolf but I will save it at it is related to another movie, Pulp Fiction. Can anyone guess? It is actually pretty startling.
Not being mysterious, I really want to see if anyone else can make the connection. WOLF.

 

[Covert Operative]

<Modsnip>

I don't consider my kids to be "everyone." Sounds like KR and his daughter kept in close touch. JMO

I would not consider kids to be everyone either but he may not have told her he was taking a day off every time he did/if he did. He may not have told her everything he did as she might not have told him. I could see a child or parent thinking the person was at work because that is what they normally did.

 

[ColMustard]

Been thinking about the Wolf.
Was there a meaning to the Wolf, just like we wonder about the Scorpion meaning?
Cool Cats post above, "wolf in sheeps clothing" is a real possibility.
Any thoughts?
Theory - a wolf is a predator, wolves hunt in a pack usually at night.
Wolves are totally loyal to their pack.

ALL Theory. MO.

Question, Does GW have a Wolf Tat?

I have one more THEORY on the Wolf but I will save it at it is related to another movie, Pulp Fiction. Can anyone guess? It is actually pretty startling.
Not being mysterious, I really want to see if anyone else can make the connection. WOLF.

Does "wolf" mean that person is the cleanup man, the fixer? The role of The Wolf in Pulp Fiction.

Heart-shaped pond - I think that may be on FR's property or maybe DR's, instead of KR's. I recall looking at it on google maps.

There's a house near KR's, on the opposite side of the road. May be where BR was staying. Also seen on the maps.

 

[Covert Operative]

Been thinking about the Wolf.
Was there a meaning to the Wolf, just like we wonder about the Scorpion meaning?
Cool Cats post above, "wolf in sheeps clothing" is a real possibility.
Any thoughts?
Theory - a wolf is a predator, wolves hunt in a pack usually at night.
Wolves are totally loyal to their pack.

ALL Theory. MO.

Question, Does GW have a Wolf Tat?

I have one more THEORY on the Wolf but I will save it at it is related to another movie, Pulp Fiction. Can anyone guess? It is actually pretty startling.
Not being mysterious, I really want to see if anyone else can make the connection. WOLF.

I think the wolf may have been symbolic of KR being shot in the right eye. The wolf had a wounded right eye. G4 posted it on fb about 2 weeks after the preliminary autopsy information came out.

 

[Ann99]

Does "wolf" mean that person is the cleanup man, the fixer? The role of The Wolf in Pulp Fiction.

Heart-shaped pond - I think that may be on FR's property or maybe DR's, instead of KR's. I recall looking at it on google maps.

There's a house near KR's, on the opposite side of the road. May be where BR was staying. Also seen on the maps.

MO. Theory, supposition.

Yes To the Wolf!
Wolf was the fixer, the cleanup man.
He also did preplanning, initially not too obvious in the first time watching.
(how many times do you think I watched Pulp Fiction. I won't admit to it ..)
Wolf was truly a wolf in sheeps clothing, seeming to be a calm, mild mannered man, when Wolf was actually the Man the Pulp Fiction Killers called upon to clean up the scenes, dispose of the evidence and generally and fix the problem.
Probably the most cold blooded of all.
Pulp Fiction Killers theme is about murders, thieves, their own interpretation of honor and loyalty.
Sound familiar?
I see a somewhat similar relationship to Boondock Saints.

 

[Covert Operative]

I really believe that Jake Wagner was there on the Rhodens property around 10:00 pm that night, <modsnip>

This is from a reporter that reported on the story many times. Not sure if I am allowed to say her name.
Correction: An earlier version of this article incorrectly reported when Hanna Rhoden's daughter went to stay with her father, Jake Wagner. Rhoden dropped her daughter off on Friday, April 15, 2016...... She had said she verified that information with some people other than the W's.

 

[Ann99]

I think the wolf may have been symbolic of KR being shot in the right eye. The wolf had a wounded right eye. G4 posted it on fb about 2 weeks after the preliminary autopsy information came out.

Oh, I didnt know this about the eye of the wolf. TY!

I wonder why AW couldn't speak to GW in person instead of a public face book response. Odd.

 

[rescuemom]

CC
That is a million dollar question, Why didn’t those 3 stay that night, ( 1 boyfriend had a tooth ache and a baby setting job, another had stayed all night with a girlfriend and the last was all the way there to the turn off on the 4 lane and just went on home, I always wonder if there where more threats and violence towards the Rhodens the last 2 weeks they where alive and those other 3 was afraid to go to the Rhodens house, JMO

I have 10 grandchildren - 8 of which are now in their late 20's but early on when they were in their late teens or early 20's - when they were in college or working part-time or both would often times make plans or cancel plans at the last minute so when I at first heard this it didn't seem strange to me at all and now I think it is safe to say these people were not involved in the murders. IF there were more threats we may never know or hopefully come out during the trial

 

[Ann99]

<Modsnip>]

Ty. Do you think this wolf is supposed to have an injured eye?
Looks like strange coloring of eye and the streaks above and below, not natural, ...what is it?