GUILTY OH Pike Co., 8 in Rhoden Family Murdered Over Custody Issue, 4 Members Wagner Family Arrested #60

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Thank @PrairieWind . She gave us a tutorial on plea agreements and how the lawyers and judges structure them to make them work. She did that back when Rita Newcomb made her agreement.

The sentencing comes at the end, after the witness has cooperated to the satisfaction of the judge. I assume in Jake's case, that will be after he testifies against the others.
Betty, after 5 years, I am so glad it’s over. I do hope we get details of what happened, but, if we don’t, I’m just glad we got a guilty plea because all it takes is one juror. I have a real distaste for the Wagner’s but Jake earned a tiny bit of respect today for doing what’s right. Hopefully he did this with his daughter at heart so now maybe she can build a life that the sweet child deserves.
 
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I know, I'm shaking, too. For a while I almost couldn't breathe.

I'm so, so happy for the Rhoden, Manley and Gilley families and all the friends of the victims. Much love to all of them. A lot of them are there today and I hope the reporters interview them, though not sure if the gag order still applies.

Up next, they have to see what the other Wagner defendants agree to. Jake has agreed to testify against them.

I do want to know what happened that night, don't you?

Thinking of all the people who went through horror that day, too.

Len Manley
Bobbie Jo Manley
James Manley
Donald Stone

Echoing your love and happiness!

I had guessed that George would be the one. Not Jake.
 
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Echoing your love and happiness!

I had guessed that George would be the one. Not Jake.
I too thought George would be the weakest link. In the end, it was the mastermind who would turn. Or is he?
 
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Thinking also of Mrs. Geneva Rhoden
 

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1 coward animal down, 3 more to go. By pleading guilty, he avoids the death sentence.
 
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Next there is this:

After pleading guilty, a defendant is typically offered a formal opportunity to address the court to express remorse, and explain personal circumstances that might be considered in sentencing. This is known as an allocution statement. These statements have a long and important history in the American legal system, serve a variety of functions, and, as “Teaching Legal Docs” explores here, produces an associated legal document.

The allocution statement provides an opportunity for defendants to accept responsibility, humanize themselves, and to mitigate their sentences to ensure that their punishment is appropriate for both the crime and the person who committed it.

From the court’s perspective, judges cannot simply accept a defendant’s guilty plea. They must determine that there is an “adequate factual basis to support the charge and the plea” and that the plea was “knowingly, voluntarily, and intelligently made.” Allocution statements aid in making these determinations. With this in mind, not all defendants exercise their right to submit an allocution statement directly to the court. Lawyers may submit statements on the defendant’s behalf, or statements may be waived entirely. According to a 2014 survey of federal judges, 84 percent of defendants in federal court exercise their right to allocution.

Allocution statements are sometimes also used at other times in court, outside of sentencing. For instance, judges might allow allocution at resentencing, probation, or supervised release hearings. Allocution rights appear at the state level, though they vary across jurisdictions. Likewise, the protocols for delivering the statement might vary between being written or spoken. In fact, several famous allocution statements in history were spoken, including John Brown’s statement to the court after being sentenced to death in 1859, and Susan B. Anthony’s statement to the court after being arrested for voting in 1873. Here, “Teaching Legal Docs” will focus on allocution at the federal court level, which concerns written statements. In federal court, allocution is discussed in Rule 32(i)(4) of the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure, providing an “opportunity to speak” prior to sentencing. The court must provide not only the defendant, but also the defendant’s lawyer and the government’s lawyer, with opportunities for allocution.
 
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AC is now describing what happened that day, starting with the 911 call

Naming all the victims, where they lived.
 
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finally some semblance of Justice for the Rhoden family. May they rest in peace and may those who remain find some small comfort in that.

What a rollercoaster this case was to ride. from the sheer number of bodies and crime scenes, to drug cartel speculations to land here. 8 people dead because the Wagner family decided they were going to have things their way, no matter the cost. and that cost was great indeed.

There is still more justice to be meted out but this was an excellent start.
 
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The Judge should require allocution from all the principal defendants.
They need to also declare who knew of their planning and execution of the crimes.
 
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AC would make a good Attorney General or US Attorney, I think.
 
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Governor? Senator?
 
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Based on statements from Jake, AC says they now have enough evidence beyond doubt to convict the others. He admitted in the early hours is when they committed murders.

Removed victims phones, security cams and destroyed them.

Admitted to being part of a criminal enterprise. Caused the death of 5 of the 8 victims

Jake says he is deeply sorry. No additions to statement of facts that AC just read. He says its all accurate.

Court will accept his plea of guilty to the 23 counts and each of the firearms specifications.

Jake's attorney Meyers says its the right decision, Jake goes into it eyes wide open. He knows he will die in prison. It was a terrible crime and he is sorry.

 
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Did I hear Jake gave the weapons and info on a vehicle purchased just for the murders?
 
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I'm in shock. I had to go to thread 1 and read those early days. Justice at last.
 
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Did I hear Jake gave the weapons and info on a vehicle purchased just for the murders?

I heard something like that, will listen again when its over. In AC's statement of facts.
 
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Adjourned. Judge says its not over yet for Jake. Still have more to do.
 
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By pleading guilty to conspiracy to commit the murders, he automatically implicates the others. Did he name names?
 
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