GUILTY OH Pike Co., 8 in Rhoden Family Murdered Over Custody Issue, 4 Members Wagner Family Arrested #64

[IType]

Just rewatched the part where Canepa said they watched videos the night “before”. I wondering what about the time close to, during and after the murders … no phone calls, texts, posts or emails to confirm they were home during the times of the murders? I know Jake confessed and IMO I believe they killed the Rhoden’s and H Gilley. With George fighting it you would think his attorney would have mentioned in the bond hearing if there was anything to prove his whereabouts during the time of the murders .

BBM--It was not mentioned in the bond hearing (August 2020). I personally feel that the reason it wasn't mentioned then--nor at GW4's arraignment--is because he has nothing to prove his whereabouts during the murders other than his phone was at the Peterson Road house, as mentioned previously by CC with the link.

However, motion 68 to depose a critical witness was filed on 3/26/2021 (link below). If I recall correctly, a copy of this motion was posted previously and it said that a witness in their late 70's (GW4's grandmother in my opinion) had information critical to GW4's case and his whereabouts the night of the murders. I didn't make a note of that post, so I'm not sure what thread/page it was on. Another poster may have that info and/or document, maybe CC or CO?? I'm going from memory here, so I may not be exactly correct about the wording or the actual document having been posted. For now, please consider this JMO.

IMO, I truly believe GW's grandmother is pushing GW4's team hard to get GW4 out of jail, either for him to help run her farm or as part of the "revenge conversations" and plans that if any of the W4 were arrested, one of them was to escape and break the others out of jail. Those conversations/plans were mentioned at both GW4's and his grandmother's arraignments by AC.

The motion to depose critical witness was filed 3/26/21. HOWEVER, less than a month later on 4/22/21, JW confessed and agreed to testify against his parents and brother. Mysteriously, it's now five months later--and GW4 had another hearing on 6/21/21--and that motion hasn't been mentioned again, either by the court granting the motion or by GW4's attorneys at his hearing in June. Wonder what happened that this "elderly" witness--who needed to hurry up and get deposed before they could possibly die--didn't really need to be deposed so quickly afterall? JMO

Per CourtView: 03/26/2021 MOTION NO. 68 DEFENDANT'S MOTION TO DEPOSE CRITICAL WITNESS PURSUANT TO CRIM. R. 15 FILED (ORIGINAL) Attorney: PARKER, JOHN PATRICK

Link: https://pikecountycpcourt.org/eserv...fXe8hb3woiYO7ZYTIuJUdBoHYFWYZ6oft3me5qpcxlVNA



Link:

Pike County murders: George Wagner IV ‘most vocal’ about DeWine revenge, prosecutors say


George Wagner IV — the uncle of the little girl shared by his brother Jake and one of the eight victims his immediate family is accused of killing — was the most vocal proponent of the Wagners exacting revenge on Ohio Attorney General Mike DeWine if any of them were arrested in the 2016 murder case, prosecutors said.

The revelation in Pike County Common Pleas Court came Wednesday during a bond discussion after Wagner IV, 27, pleaded not guilty to 22 counts, including eight counts of aggravated murder with death penalty specifications.

Wagner IV’s attorney sought bond, noting a history without criminal convictions or traffic offenses. But the state’s special prosecutor successfully objected, citing a confidential informant who disclosed to investigators that Wagner IV and his family discussed revenge multiple times, as well as discussing how the incarcerated family member would have escaped from jail.

EARLIER: Pike County murders: First homicide suspect pleads not guilty

Already, prosecutors have suggested there may be a mole within the Wagner circle. When setting bond for Wagner IV's grandmother, Fredericka Wagner, who pleaded not guilty to charges alleging she helped cover up the murders, prosecutors revealed at least one of the revenge conversations occurred at her farm.

 

[Cool Cats]

BBM--It was not mentioned in the bond hearing (August 2020). I personally feel that the reason it wasn't mentioned then--nor at GW4's arraignment--is because he has nothing to prove his whereabouts during the murders other than his phone was at the Peterson Road house, as mentioned previously by CC with the link.

However, motion 68 to depose a critical witness was filed on 3/26/2021 (link below). If I recall correctly, a copy of this motion was posted previously and it said that a witness in their late 70's (GW4's grandmother in my opinion) had information critical to GW4's case and his whereabouts the night of the murders. I didn't make a note of that post, so I'm not sure what thread/page it was on. Another poster may have that info and/or document, maybe CC or CO?? I'm going from memory here, so I may not be exactly correct about the wording or the actual document having been posted. For now, please consider this JMO.

IMO, I truly believe GW's grandmother is pushing GW4's team hard to get GW4 out of jail, either for him to help run her farm or as part of the "revenge conversations" and plans that if any of the W4 were arrested, one of them was to escape and break the others out of jail. Those conversations/plans were mentioned at both GW4's and his grandmother's arraignments by AC.

The motion to depose critical witness was filed 3/26/21. HOWEVER, less than a month later on 4/22/21, JW confessed and agreed to testify against his parents and brother. Mysteriously, it's now five months later--and GW4 had another hearing on 6/21/21--and that motion hasn't been mentioned again, either by the court granting the motion or by GW4's attorneys at his hearing in June. Wonder what happened that this "elderly" witness--who needed to hurry up and get deposed before they could possibly die--didn't really need to be deposed so quickly afterall? JMO

Per CourtView: 03/26/2021 MOTION NO. 68 DEFENDANT'S MOTION TO DEPOSE CRITICAL WITNESS PURSUANT TO CRIM. R. 15 FILED (ORIGINAL) Attorney: PARKER, JOHN PATRICK

Link: https://pikecountycpcourt.org/eserv...fXe8hb3woiYO7ZYTIuJUdBoHYFWYZ6oft3me5qpcxlVNA



Link:

Pike County murders: George Wagner IV ‘most vocal’ about DeWine revenge, prosecutors say


George Wagner IV — the uncle of the little girl shared by his brother Jake and one of the eight victims his immediate family is accused of killing — was the most vocal proponent of the Wagners exacting revenge on Ohio Attorney General Mike DeWine if any of them were arrested in the 2016 murder case, prosecutors said.

The revelation in Pike County Common Pleas Court came Wednesday during a bond discussion after Wagner IV, 27, pleaded not guilty to 22 counts, including eight counts of aggravated murder with death penalty specifications.

Wagner IV’s attorney sought bond, noting a history without criminal convictions or traffic offenses. But the state’s special prosecutor successfully objected, citing a confidential informant who disclosed to investigators that Wagner IV and his family discussed revenge multiple times, as well as discussing how the incarcerated family member would have escaped from jail.

EARLIER: Pike County murders: First homicide suspect pleads not guilty

Already, prosecutors have suggested there may be a mole within the Wagner circle. When setting bond for Wagner IV's grandmother, Fredericka Wagner, who pleaded not guilty to charges alleging she helped cover up the murders, prosecutors revealed at least one of the revenge conversations occurred at her farm.

03/26/2021 MOTION NO. 68 DEFENDANT'S MOTION TO DEPOSE CRITICAL WITNESS PURSUANT TO CRIM. R. 15 FILED (ORIGINAL)

In a past post I copied this important statement from the Defense's Motion requesting the Deposition. The above Motion # 68.

"The anticipated testimony (from FW) points strongly to the defenfant's actual innocence and the guilt of another person or group of people. Counsel can provide details to the court under seal so as not to cause this witness any undue harassment before the deposition is conducted."

I wondered about this also, that we haven't heard about this since the filing. This was right at the time Jake was turning State's evidence and less than a month away from his April 22nd guilty confessions in court.

Something about Jake's confession seems to have turned FW off from wanting to do the deposition.

However, it is entirely possible she plans to testify at George's trial. This is what the whole deposition was about, getting her testimony just in case she was unable to testify in court due to

1.) Her age
2.) Covid

The Motion also described that her husband had passed away and that he too would have been a critical witness... HUMM ...

I am sure this witness is FW. Everything adds up.

 

[LMDlong]

Not alot of time plus labor day takes off a business day.

They filed just exactly 3 weeks before the September 13th court date.
So I think the court didn't have time to get everyone together before the 13th.

However, there still should be some type of response filed by the prosecution which maybe will be filed this week? I would venture the guess that something will come up on the Docket this week.

Snail

maybe it bought the prosecution more time.

 

[Cool Cats]

maybe it bought the prosecution more time.

No doubt.

More time for what? I will have to check again what the defense is trying to do.

 

[Caylee Advocate]

CORRECTION !!!! CAN'T BELIEVE I DID THAT!

Sopose to be Rhodens, Gilleys and Manleys NOT Wagners.

Oh c'mon CC, you know you want justice for the Wagner's...just not the same type of justice as the victims and their families surely deserve .

 

[Cool Cats]

Oh c'mon CC, you know you want justice for the Wagner's...just not the same type of justice as the victims and their families surely deserve .

 

[IType]

03/26/2021 MOTION NO. 68 DEFENDANT'S MOTION TO DEPOSE CRITICAL WITNESS PURSUANT TO CRIM. R. 15 FILED (ORIGINAL)

In a past post I copied this important statement from the Defense's Motion requesting the Deposition. The above Motion # 68.

"The anticipated testimony (from FW) points strongly to the defenfant's actual innocence and the guilt of another person or group of people. Counsel can provide details to the court under seal so as not to cause this witness any undue harassment before the deposition is conducted."

I wondered about this also, that we haven't heard about this since the filing. This was right at the time Jake was turning State's evidence and less than a month away from his April 22nd guilty confessions in court.

Something about Jake's confession seems to have turned FW off from wanting to do the deposition.

However, it is entirely possible she plans to testify at George's trial. This is what the whole deposition was about, getting her testimony just in case she was unable to testify in court due to

1.) Her age
2.) Covid

The Motion also described that her husband had passed away and that he too would have been a critical witness... HUMM ...

I am sure this witness is FW. Everything adds up.

1. Thanks for the info. I've reported my post above to moderators to have the phrase "and his whereabouts the night of the murders" in the second paragraph removed since it's not correct. She only had information that was supposed to be critical to GW4's case and could implicate someone else other than him. Yeah, right......

2. (Italicized by me) I presume that "something" is the fact that her theory no longer holds water since JW outed himself, his parents and his brother beyond the shadow of any doubt. Remember, all it takes is one juror to have their doubts about a defendant's guilt to prevent a conviction. IMO that was the plan, to create doubt in the mind of jurors, with this deposition and/or her live testimony in GW4's trial.

Do I really think that GW4 would be acquitted or have a hung jury without JW's confession but with FW's deposition/testimony? Absolutely not! But, in theory, it is a possibility and GW4's attorneys have to try any angle they can find to get their foot in the door to create reasonable doubt. I wonder if this motion will ever be brought up again. If it doesn't, I won't be a bit surprised because--with JW's confession and all the evidence he's given AC--anything FW would say couldn't be proven and would most likely be a falsehood or a smokescreen. She better not commit perjury...again. JMO

 

[IType]

No doubt.

More time for what? I will have to check again what the defense is trying to do.

Didn't Rob Junk's motion filed on 8/16/21 for time extension on turning over the proffer recording (originally ordered to be handed over no later than 8/13/21) say something about a new development or important information (??) received on the very day of 8/13/21 that was critical to the remaining W4 cases? Maybe it's something super strong for the prosecution's case and the judge won't move up the 9/13/21 hearing...? If AW is considering changing her plea to guilty and agreeing to testify against BW and GW4, that would really solidify the prosecution's case.

If GW4's team wants the recording to try and find anything to nullify JW's confession, it would be a moot point if AW were to also agree to testify against the other two W4. There wouldn't be much point in pushing the turnover of JW's recording or to move up a hearing. Just a thought. JMO

 

[Ann99]

Didn't Rob Junk's motion filed on 8/16/21 for time extension on turning over the proffer recording (originally ordered to be handed over no later than 8/13/21) say something about a new development or important information (??) received on the very day of 8/13/21 that was critical to the remaining W4 cases? Maybe it's something super strong for the prosecution's case and the judge won't move up the 9/13/21 hearing...? If AW is considering changing her plea to guilty and agreeing to testify against BW and GW4, that would really solidify the prosecution's case.

If GW4's team wants the recording to try and find anything to nullify JW's confession, it would be a moot point if AW were to also agree to testify against the other two W4. There wouldn't be much point in pushing the turnover of JW's recording or to move up a hearing. Just a thought. JMO

A new development or important information....Yep, could be Angie has decided to admit guilt. Maybe she wanted nice teeth for her close up in court.
Or
Could be related to something in Jake's Agreement.
Here it is.
MO
A few thoughts, my opinions, after catching up on recent posts and reading Jake's Agreement
Defendants Agreement and Plea and Sentencing Document
(link has already been provided several times)
Item #5 page 2
Defendant agrees to provide truthful, complete and accurate information during the investigation and prosecution of any [ANY] criminal offenses of which he has relevant information including but not limited to providing a full account of events leading up to and including commission of homicides...
Item #6
Defendant agrees to testify truthfully, completely and accurately in any legal proceeding related to the Rhoden Family homicides that he is called to testify as a witness including but not limited to any Juvenile proceeding, Grand Jury or Trial whether Civil or Criminal in nature
Item #7 page 3
Specifically... Defendant agrees to testify truthfully in any and all trials relating to homicides of Rhoden Family...
...including but not limited to trials currently pending....
...Furthermore the Defendant agrees to testify concerning any crimes committed by any and all in the investigations and/or prosecutions resulting from his cooperation.
The Defendant agrees to have no contact with any individual potentially or actually indicted in this investigation or anyone who may become a target of this investigation from time to time without express consent of State of Ohio.
#

MOO
I'm thinking Jake has given up massive amounts of specific info on previous crimes, bad deeds, of all W's, other crimes of the Ohio area that he has specific knowledge of, including people we don't know of right now, people we know of at this time, possibly some that are deceased, some that are incarcerated, revealing additional crimes of those incarcerated.
Locations of bodies, weapons from other bad deeds. (somewhere in the agreement he agrees to provide locations of evidence)
MO Other criminal indictments and prosecutions will arise from Jake's revelations and he will testify.
I believe this was partial motivation for his confession - Jake wants to bring down many other criminals in Southern Ohio (maybe beyond) who currently roam free. Jake's life is prison, LWOP or DP. So, Why not? After all, did he get a Public Defender, kind of a slap in the face by the one who pays for everything.
Could be why the subpoena for the deposition of the elderly person was forgotten.
Seems this Agreement means Jake must and will testify truthfully in Tony's Civil suit and that would help in Tony's Civil Case. Good.
I would bet the FARM on it.
A good deed with possible a double edge to it.
Last thought, all of the above regarding " including but not limited to " language must play into the Judges rulings.
I imagine no one on the State level wants to jeopardize future indictments, prosecutions.
So, possibly a delay as the Judge has solemn responsibility for his opinion in the sentencing, so he must be cautious in how he proceeds.
Must not jeopardize future indictments.

 

[Cool Cats]

1. Thanks for the info. I've reported my post above to moderators to have the phrase "and his whereabouts the night of the murders" in the second paragraph removed since it's not correct. She only had information that was supposed to be critical to GW4's case and could implicate someone else other than him. Yeah, right......

2. (Italicized by me) I presume that "something" is the fact that her theory no longer holds water since JW outed himself, his parents and his brother beyond the shadow of any doubt. Remember, all it takes is one juror to have their doubts about a defendant's guilt to prevent a conviction. IMO that was the plan, to create doubt in the mind of jurors, with this deposition and/or her live testimony in GW4's trial.

Do I really think that GW4 would be acquitted or have a hung jury without JW's confession but with FW's deposition/testimony? Absolutely not! But, in theory, it is a possibility and GW4's attorneys have to try any angle they can find to get their foot in the door to create reasonable doubt. I wonder if this motion will ever be brought up again. If it doesn't, I won't be a bit surprised because--with JW's confession and all the evidence he's given AC--anything FW would say couldn't be proven and would most likely be a falsehood or a smokescreen. She better not commit perjury...again. JMO

Nice post I agree.

Didn't Rob Junk's motion filed on 8/16/21 for time extension on turning over the proffer recording (originally ordered to be handed over no later than 8/13/21) say something about a new development or important information (??) received on the very day of 8/13/21 that was critical to the remaining W4 cases? Maybe it's something super strong for the prosecution's case and the judge won't move up the 9/13/21 hearing...? If AW is considering changing her plea to guilty and agreeing to testify against BW and GW4, that would really solidify the prosecution's case.

If GW4's team wants the recording to try and find anything to nullify JW's confession, it would be a moot point if AW were to also agree to testify against the other two W4. There wouldn't be much point in pushing the turnover of JW's recording or to move up a hearing. Just a thought. JMO

In regard to your QUOTE:

"Didn't Rob Junk's motion filed on 8/16/21 for time extension on turning over the proffer recording (originally ordered to be handed over no later than 8/13/21) say something about a new development or important information (??) received on the very day of 8/13/21 that was critical to the remaining W4 cases?"

I'm not seeing anything about a new development or important information

I'm looking at these:

08/16/2021
OBJECTION TO STATE'S REQUEST FOR EXTENTION TO FILE DISCOVERY FILED (FAX)

08/06/2021 JOURNAL ENTRY
GRANTING REQUEST FOR EXTENSION OF DEALINE FOR SUPPLEMENTAL DISCOVERY--AFTER DUE CONSIDERATION, THE COURT FINDS AND CONCLUDES THAT THE STATE OF OHIO'S MOTION FOR EXTENSION OF DEADLINE FOR SUPPLEMENTAL DISCOVERY IS WELL-TAKEN AND SUCH MOTION IS HEREBY GRANTED;

HOWEVER, THE STATE OF OHIO SHOULD NOT EXPECT ANY ADDITIONAL EXTENSIONS OF THIS DEADLINE. IT IS ORDERED THAT DATE BY WHICH THE STATE OF OHIO SHALL FURNISH THE DEFENDANT WITH A COPY OF THE RECORDING OF THE PROFFER THAT THE STATE OF OHIO CONDUCTED WITH CO-DEFENDANT EDWARD JACOB WAGNER IS HEREBY EXTENDED TO AUGUST 13, 2021.

THE DATE BY WHICH THE DEFENDANT SHALL FURNISH RECIPROCAL DISCOVERY TO THE STATE OF OHIO IS HEREBY EXTENDED TO OCTOBER 12, 2021. THE COURT MAY FURTHER EXTEND THE TIME FOR PROVISION OF RECIPROCAL DISCOVERY UPON TIMELY MOTION OF THE DEFENDANT AND FOR GOOD CAUSE SHOWN. FILED AND MAILED COPIES CDB

 

[Ann99]

It probably should not have mentioned it is what I thought when I first saw it posted in courtview.
I was hoping someone would volunteer to stake out the nearest comfort dental or watch the jail for when they put her in the car and take pics. ha

Ha! Good one.
MO
Seriously, probably felt the need to be specific so that other defense attorney's could not twist it into something else to use for their clients advantage or cause confusion. IIRC, we sleuthers came up with all manner of speculation on the first medical request. MO

 

[Covert Operative]

Didn't Rob Junk's motion filed on 8/16/21 for time extension on turning over the proffer recording (originally ordered to be handed over no later than 8/13/21) say something about a new development or important information (??) received on the very day of 8/13/21 that was critical to the remaining W4 cases? Maybe it's something super strong for the prosecution's case and the judge won't move up the 9/13/21 hearing...? If AW is considering changing her plea to guilty and agreeing to testify against BW and GW4, that would really solidify the prosecution's case.

If GW4's team wants the recording to try and find anything to nullify JW's confession, it would be a moot point if AW were to also agree to testify against the other two W4. There wouldn't be much point in pushing the turnover of JW's recording or to move up a hearing. Just a thought. JMO

In regard to your QUOTE:

"Didn't Rob Junk's motion filed on 8/16/21 for time extension on turning over the proffer recording (originally ordered to be handed over no later than 8/13/21) say something about a new development or important information (??) received on the very day of 8/13/21 that was critical to the remaining W4 cases?"

I'm not seeing anything about a new development or important information

I'm looking at these:

08/16/2021
OBJECTION TO STATE'S REQUEST FOR EXTENTION TO FILE DISCOVERY FILED (FAX)

08/06/2021 JOURNAL ENTRY
GRANTING REQUEST FOR EXTENSION OF DEALINE FOR SUPPLEMENTAL DISCOVERY--AFTER DUE CONSIDERATION, THE COURT FINDS AND CONCLUDES THAT THE STATE OF OHIO'S MOTION FOR EXTENSION OF DEADLINE FOR SUPPLEMENTAL DISCOVERY IS WELL-TAKEN AND SUCH MOTION IS HEREBY GRANTED;

HOWEVER, THE STATE OF OHIO SHOULD NOT EXPECT ANY ADDITIONAL EXTENSIONS OF THIS DEADLINE. IT IS ORDERED THAT DATE BY WHICH THE STATE OF OHIO SHALL FURNISH THE DEFENDANT WITH A COPY OF THE RECORDING OF THE PROFFER THAT THE STATE OF OHIO CONDUCTED WITH CO-DEFENDANT EDWARD JACOB WAGNER IS HEREBY EXTENDED TO AUGUST 13, 2021.

THE DATE BY WHICH THE DEFENDANT SHALL FURNISH RECIPROCAL DISCOVERY TO THE STATE OF OHIO IS HEREBY EXTENDED TO OCTOBER 12, 2021. THE COURT MAY FURTHER EXTEND THE TIME FOR PROVISION OF RECIPROCAL DISCOVERY UPON TIMELY MOTION OF THE DEFENDANT AND FOR GOOD CAUSE SHOWN. FILED AND MAILED COPIES CDB[/QUOTE]

In the motion the state filed they said:
Ongoing and developing circumstances they became aware of on August 13.
That is why they said they needed more time to turn over the proffer. That motion was previously posted in WS.

 

[Covert Operative]

My memory could be wrong, but I think I recall the actual motion itself with a memorandum attachment containing the explanation was posted here in the thread.

Just like with JW's plea agreement, there was the formal motion but there was also an attachment at the end that gave more detailed information about the motion--that page was easily overlooked.

I'll look into it.

The motion was posted. The state filed it. ---Ongoing and developing circumtances they became aware of on August 13.

 

[Cool Cats]

The motion was posted. The state filed it. ---Ongoing and developing circumtances they became aware of on August 13.

Where is this Motion posted? Thanks

 

[Covert Operative]

Where is this Motion posted? Thanks

I do not know what page it was posted on previously but here it is again.

 

[Cool Cats]

I do not know what page it was posted on previously but here it is again.

Cool. Thanks.

Ongoing and developing circumstances....Well then...Hummm.....

What was happening around August 13?

 

[Dudly]

A new development or important information....Yep, could be Angie has decided to admit guilt. Maybe she wanted nice teeth for her close up in court.
Or
Could be related to something in Jake's Agreement.
Here it is.
MO
A few thoughts, my opinions, after catching up on recent posts and reading Jake's Agreement
Defendants Agreement and Plea and Sentencing Document
(link has already been provided several times)
Item #5 page 2
Defendant agrees to provide truthful, complete and accurate information during the investigation and prosecution of any [ANY] criminal offenses of which he has relevant information including but not limited to providing a full account of events leading up to and including commission of homicides...
Item #6
Defendant agrees to testify truthfully, completely and accurately in any legal proceeding related to the Rhoden Family homicides that he is called to testify as a witness including but not limited to any Juvenile proceeding, Grand Jury or Trial whether Civil or Criminal in nature
Item #7 page 3
Specifically... Defendant agrees to testify truthfully in any and all trials relating to homicides of Rhoden Family...
...including but not limited to trials currently pending....
...Furthermore the Defendant agrees to testify concerning any crimes committed by any and all in the investigations and/or prosecutions resulting from his cooperation.
The Defendant agrees to have no contact with any individual potentially or actually indicted in this investigation or anyone who may become a target of this investigation from time to time without express consent of State of Ohio.
#

MOO
I'm thinking Jake has given up massive amounts of specific info on previous crimes, bad deeds, of all W's, other crimes of the Ohio area that he has specific knowledge of, including people we don't know of right now, people we know of at this time, possibly some that are deceased, some that are incarcerated, revealing additional crimes of those incarcerated.
Locations of bodies, weapons from other bad deeds. (somewhere in the agreement he agrees to provide locations of evidence)
MO Other criminal indictments and prosecutions will arise from Jake's revelations and he will testify.
I believe this was partial motivation for his confession - Jake wants to bring down many other criminals in Southern Ohio (maybe beyond) who currently roam free. Jake's life is prison, LWOP or DP. So, Why not? After all, did he get a Public Defender, kind of a slap in the face by the one who pays for everything.
Could be why the subpoena for the deposition of the elderly person was forgotten.
Seems this Agreement means Jake must and will testify truthfully in Tony's Civil suit and that would help in Tony's Civil Case. Good.
I would bet the FARM on it.
A good deed with possible a double edge to it.
Last thought, all of the above regarding " including but not limited to " language must play into the Judges rulings.
I imagine no one on the State level wants to jeopardize future indictments, prosecutions.
So, possibly a delay as the Judge has solemn responsibility for his opinion in the sentencing, so he must be cautious in how he proceeds.
Must not jeopardize future indictments.

I think they may be covering all bases in case JW knows something useful, not necessarily because he knows something useful. It is hard to guess what may be going on with this case. It could even be a bluff to make someone think he will rat on them...

 

[LMDlong]

Not alot of time plus labor day takes off a business day.

They filed just exactly 3 weeks before the September 13th court date.
So I think the court didn't have time to get everyone together before the 13th.

However, there still should be some type of response filed by the prosecution which maybe will be filed this week? I would venture the guess that something will come up on the Docket this week.

Snail

maybe it bought the prosecution more time.

Cool. Thanks.

Ongoing and developing circumstances....Well then...Hummm.....

What was happening around August 13?

it states that it has to do with a “remaining piece of evidence “.

 

[LMDlong]

I think they may be covering all bases in case JW knows something useful, not necessarily because he knows something useful. It is hard to guess what may be going on with this case. It could even be a bluff to make someone think he will rat on them...

IMO I don’t think they would try to bluff at this point but that is moo

 

[Cool Cats]

Remaining piece of evidence?

Guns? Knife? Vehicles?

Something new?

Hummm...