JMO, that’s a very good theory, Raize. They must have been in quite a hurry to get back to UHR to finish their spree before people started waking up and driving to work. I think a lot of people out there work in the Columbus area and get up early to commute.
I still think the single shot to Kenny's right eye was symbolic. IMO, Kenny had seen/witnessed something that could have been used as evidence as motive in these eight murders. Maybe that night, or maybe the week before when he witnessed the fight.
Considering how much the W's had, what a huge consuming amount of anger that drove them to risk everything just to get what they wanted. That poor little child would have been so much better off sharing time between both parents, happier also.Just saw this pop up on twitter from another reporter. It looks like they're visiting the Peterson Rd farm that used to be the Wagners. If so, those jurors are working late tonight and must have a full day tomorrow. Very nice those people who bought the farm to make it available to LE and the court for so many searches, etc.
Wow I missed this. Was this hearing not televised? Very interesting.I really hope she's doing well enough to attend GW4s.
Was just remembering George and the tattoo he got after the Rhoden Massacre. A skull, and eight ball and the "Dead Man's Hand" featuring eights and aces. Clever.
West Chester police captain, former BCI investigator takes stand in Pike County murders hearing
Attorneys for George Wagner IV want a judge to suppress audio recordings from days of surveillance on the family now charged with the 2016 murder of eight people in Pike County.www.wcpo.com
I was always of the opinion that it was Billy who got Kenneth either on his way home to flying w farms or on his way to uhr.
Pretty sure investigators found the Boondock Saints video in the trash/storage the W’s left behind after they moved.
I'm completely going off memory here. I could be way off. For some reason I thought that the video was found partially burned. Does anyone else remember? TIA
I hope I can say this without violating any TOS. The Wags are a real special kind of stupid, what hubris!!! What's the old saying? Arrogance and ignorance, or in this case, stupidity are a deadly combination. I still cannot wrap my mind around that not only did these 4 continue to live life as if nothing had happened, at least 2 of the 4 permanently memorialized their atrocities by inking it on their person.I really hope she's doing well enough to attend GW4s.
Was just remembering George and the tattoo he got after the Rhoden Massacre. A skull, and eight ball and the "Dead Man's Hand" featuring eights and aces. Clever.
West Chester police captain, former BCI investigator takes stand in Pike County murders hearing
Attorneys for George Wagner IV want a judge to suppress audio recordings from days of surveillance on the family now charged with the 2016 murder of eight people in Pike County.
BCI found a burned VCR.
i agree. even in a big family, issues and knowledge of situations can be highly compartmentalized. if kr was closest to crsr especially considering the grows he would know about this "meeting" with billy and intricate details about the custody battle and general insanity of the wagner cult. maybe tony and brady werent read into the more private issues. wagners plan needed to erase the custody battle and point fingers inside at the manleys and outside to the "cartel" or "isis" kr would have blown that to bits
I can’t remember if there was anyone else on CR sr property when the fight happened that could be called as a witness .
About EW. If anyone knows, is her fear because she knows what the Ws did to the Rhodens or just because of her experiences living or being around the Ws?? I missed how she was able to leave them, anyone know??^^rsbm
The prosecution has the burden of proof so it's no wonder that they have a witness list exceeding 250! To be clear, the length of this list itself does not mean that every witness on the list will be called to testify (the trial would go on for 2 years). However, it's a matter of law that a witness cannot be called and "surprise the court" if they never made the witness list admitted into evidence. The point here about EW is that the defense doesn't know nor has any guarantee that they can question EW on the stand.
In this case, the prosecution has relied on an exception to Discovery Rule 16 that provides for non-disclosure of a witness's identity/address (for good cause). In other words, this means that as of 8/31/22 when Defense filed Motion to Compel #109, they still had no knowledge or guarantee from the Court whether or not EW has been subpoenaed as a prosecution witness and will in fact appear in court.
Although the prosecution has rightfully used the discovery exception for non-disclosure to protect EW for several years, Rule 16 also provides that the non-disclosure exception ends 7 days prior to the trial commencing.
Not only would it be a violation of the defendant's Sixth Amendment Right not to be able to subpoena EW, but It would also be ineffective assistance of counsel for the defense to fail to subpoena a witness to rebut testimony against their client. Seriously, how tragic it would be if GW4 won on appeal over the prosecution withholding EW's address on the heels of his trial?
Pike County murders: Six years later, first trial officially has a jury
Jury selection is underway in the first trial in the Pike County murders case, with jurors scheduled to see the crime scenes later this week and opening statements to happen after Labor Day.
8/29/22
Potential jurors heard about a possible witness list as well: More than 250 people could be called as witnesses in this case, including dozens of state Bureau of Criminal Investigation agents and members of two county dive teams. Not all people on the list will be called during the course of the trial.
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George is the first of the Wagner family members charged in the eight murders to face trial. His brother, Edward "Jake" Wagner, is believed to be at the center of the motive for the murder; He and one of the victims, Hanna Rhoden, had a child together over which there were vicious custody disputes. Jake took a plea deal in April 2021.
Also charged in the murders were George's parents, Angela and George "Billy" Wagner. Angela took a plea deal in September 2021. Billy has maintained a plea of not guilty, though a trial date has not yet been set for him.
They didn't think they would get caught!!!
Sorry, wrong quote.
