GUILTY OK - Christopher Lane, 22, Australian, slain in thrill killing, Duncan, 16 Aug 2013

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"They saw Christopher go by, and one of them said: 'There's our target,'" [Duncan police chief Danny] Ford said. "The boy who has talked to us said: 'We were bored and didn't have anything to do, so we decided to kill somebody.'"

"They followed him in the car to that area, shot him in the back and drove off," Ford said."
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Where were these teenager's parents? They gave the children car keys, but they didn't provide enough guidance to give them any values? The parents completely failed their children and now an athlete, who obviously had good values, is dead. It's unbelievable.
 
  • #162
Where were these teenager's parents? They gave the children car keys, but they didn't provide enough guidance to give them any values? The parents completely failed their children and now an athlete, who obviously had good values, is dead. It's unbelievable.

Thank you, Otto.

Apparently one or all of them had rough lives. Jail, problems with the law, behavior, etc. It's starting to come out now. The media will start reporting it.
 
  • #163
Maybe you timed out while typing it? That's happened to me before.

Maybe - I was just saying that I got where you were coming from.

And that maybe I'm a bit too emo today to be posting on this case. I get so sad and full of despair for people some days, you know?

And I said that maybe it's time to go look at some puppies and kittens, until it passes. :B
 
  • #164
"They saw Christopher go by, and one of them said: 'There's our target,'" [Duncan police chief Danny] Ford said. "The boy who has talked to us said: 'We were bored and didn't have anything to do, so we decided to kill somebody.'"

"They followed him in the car to that area, shot him in the back and drove off," Ford said."
link

Where were these teenager's parents? They gave the children car keys, but they didn't provide enough guidance to give them any values? The parents completely failed their children and now an athlete, who obviously had good values, is dead. It's unbelievable.

Bingo. I am flabbergasted by the way too many cases of bad parenting we see on WS every day. Beats me.
 
  • #165
Maybe - I was just saying that I got where you were coming from.

And that maybe I'm a bit too emo today to be posting on this case. I get so sad and full of despair for people some days, you know?

And I said that maybe it's time to go look at some puppies and kittens, until it passes. :B

Funny you should say that... Right before I logged on, I gave my cat "Chico" extra treats - and he's on a diet! It just made me happy to see I made him happy for a sec.
 
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"They saw Christopher go by, and one of them said: 'There's our target,'" [Duncan police chief Danny] Ford said. "The boy who has talked to us said: 'We were bored and didn't have anything to do, so we decided to kill somebody.'"

"They followed him in the car to that area, shot him in the back and drove off," Ford said."
link

Where were these teenager's parents? They gave the children car keys, but they didn't provide enough guidance to give them any values? The parents completely failed their children and now an athlete, who obviously had good values, is dead. It's unbelievable.

Their social media (can't see much of the oldest one's) is sickening. Especially when you consider their ages. And it's not "hidden" social media. It's fb, twitter and instragram. No excuse for this. And definitely no excuse for the parents saying they didn't know. If *I* can find it, they could easily have as well. jmo
 
  • #169
This is so sad - I do want to know which news stations told the truth about who the shooters were,
 
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Their social media (can't see much of the oldest one's) is sickening. Especially when you consider their ages. And it's not "hidden" social media. It's fb, twitter and instragram. No excuse for this. And definitely no excuse for the parents saying they didn't know. If *I* can find it, they could easily have as well. jmo

And I need a translator for most of it..
 
  • #172
Where do these wild animals come from? This is beyond sick!
 
  • #173
JFE def charged as an adult.

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  • #174
Read those twitter posts. and the then remember that a certain celebrity totaly lost her job/career because she uttered one word 20 years ago... wow

I'm embarrassed to say I'm not sure what you're referring to?
 
  • #175
I keep wondering how the 17 year old (MJ) gets off as an accessory, but the passenger (Edwards) gets charged the same as the shooter (Luna).

It just dawned on me... Le said a shotgun was found in the car, they're looking for the handgun, yada yada. However, I wonder if the shotgun that was recovered from their car is the same one Edwards is waving around in his Vine video & on his Facebook pictures AND I wonder if the handgun they're looking for is the same one shown on his bed in a pic on his FB page & in his cover photo on his Twitter page...

I'll bet the guns belonged to Edwards & that's why he got a murder 1 charge instead of an accessory charge like MJ. Kinda makes sense if so, even though I think they should ALL be charged with murder in the 1st.
 
  • #176
I keep wondering how the 17 year old (MJ) gets off as an accessory, but the passenger (Edwards) gets charged the same as the shooter (Luna).

It just dawned on me... Le said a shotgun was found in the car, they're looking for the handgun, yada yada. However, I wonder if the shotgun that was recovered from their car is the same one Edwards is waving around in his Vine video & on his Facebook pictures AND I wonder if the handgun they're looking for is the same one shown on his bed in a pic on his FB page & in his cover photo on his Twitter page...

I'll bet the guns belonged to Edwards & that's why he got a murder 1 charge instead of an accessory charge like MJ. Kinda makes sense if so, even though I think they should ALL be charged with murder in the 1st.

Probably. There also could be problems proving beyond a reasonable doubt that Jones knew what was going to go down ahead of time. Video could show otherwise, but maybe it's inconclusive about what he knew beforehand. I know they have video of what happened after, but maybe not clear evidence of Jones driving the car while the other two were getting in with guns that he had to have seen and known what they were for. There also may be some evidence of coercion. Would you want to tell lilbuggy and babydrake no if they had guns in their hands? I wouldn't! jmo
 
  • #177
Probably. There also could be problems proving beyond a reasonable doubt that J***s knew what was going to go down ahead of time. Video could show otherwise, but maybe it's inconclusive about what he knew beforehand. I know they have video of what happened after, but maybe not clear evidence of J***s driving the car while the other two were getting in with guns that he had to have seen and known what they were for. There also may be some evidence of coercion. Would you want to tell lilbuggy and babydrake no if they had guns in their hands? I wouldn't! jmo

Idk, I'd never allow myself to be in that kind of position. I'd rather drive the gun wielding thugs into a brick wall. Better than helping them kill an innocent person IMO.

On Edwards' FB, there's a pic of a bunch of guys sitting on stairs giving hand symbols. One of the people look like MJ, looks a lot like him actually. Maybe there is truth to Ms Luna's reference to them wanting to be in a wannabe gang or something.
 
  • #178
http://www.newson6.com/story/7645766/oklahomas-youthful-offender-law?clienttype=printable

From Link: A 16 year old youthful offender, might go to jail, although they're kept separate from the grownups. The maximum sentence they can get is 10 years. If they do all the right things, they'll be released when they're 21 and their record can be sealed.

BBM: Unbelievable! There is no way MJ should only get out in 10 years if he is involved. Charge him as an adult with less crimes, if he is not as culpable! I can't believe a 17 year old is being charged as a juvenile in this case. His record can be sealed? :furious:
 
  • #179
http://www.newson6.com/story/7645766/oklahomas-youthful-offender-law?clienttype=printable

From Link: A 16 year old youthful offender, might go to jail, although they're kept separate from the grownups. The maximum sentence they can get is 10 years. If they do all the right things, they'll be released when they're 21 and their record can be sealed.

BBM: Unbelievable! There is no way MJ should only get out in 10 years if he is involved. Charge him as an adult with less crimes, if he is not as culpable! I can't believe a 17 year old is being charged as a juvenile in this case. His record can be sealed? :furious:

I am pretty sure he got this deal because he is the one talking. Prosecutors don't have a murder weapon or witnesses who saw the actual shooting. It sucks but it sounds like they have made a deal with him in exchange for testimony against the other two.
 
  • #180
Sarah Harper, the victim’s girlfriend, said she was finishing her shift at the nearby Duncan Golf & Tennis Club pro shop when her boyfriend was cut down. She called it a senseless killing, and posted this message on her Facebook page: “So much tragedy in our small community. Lord, heal us all.”

http://enidnews.com/state/x1253326636/Teens-charges-in-shooting-death-of-college-player

bbm,Can't remember which one of the three but one had the golf club listed on their FB page. iirc

Not-guilty pleas were entered for all three. Although juveniles, all three were arraigned one-by-one in adult court. The two murder defendants were ordered held without bail, and could face life in prison if convicted. Bond was set at $1 million for Jones. He faces a possible 45 years in prison.
 

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