One Direction star Liam Payne has died after falling from the third floor of his hotel room in Argentina. He was 31

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all of a sudden people hear loud screams etc... supposedly he was downstairs in the lobby reading negative comments about himself on social media, smashed his computer and was escorted back to his room, where he trashed the room and then jumped ( or theyre saying he threw himself off the balcony ) . Maybe he didn't brace for a fall because he was intoxicated /high?
 
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It could well be a translation error but how on the one hand can you say he jumped, yet in another say he was unconscious at the time of falling and that why he didn't form a protective position. The timeline and not requesting police does not make sense.
I think they took him up to the hotel room when he was out of control and locked him in thinking it was for his safety. There was a witness who thought they were doing work in the room as the staff were in and out from 4.30pm. In the meantime he lost it in the hotel room being locked in and tried to escape by jumping off the balcony. They hear this and hang up... Then call back and just request medical assistance no police.

If I recall correctly so all MOO the witnesses said they heard noise as if there was construction work going on in the room because of the loud smashing sounds. Not actual hotel staff working but builders. So Liam must have been making quite a bit of noise IMO. I can imagine the staff going in and out trying to calm him down and settle the situation, maybe making sure not too much damage was done in the room or to himself.
 
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Were there no cameras around the building?
 
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Liam Payne Was ‘Trashing Room’ Before Balcony Fall, Hotel Staff Says in 911 Call Made Minutes Before His Death

According to a translated La Nacion transcript of the call, the worker said the musician was intoxicated and presumed he was "under the influence of alcohol and drugs," insisting that someone needed to come "urgently" to the location. The outlet stated the call was made at 5:01 p.m. local time, shortly before Payne's death around 10 minutes later.
 
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From the link…
The emergency operator then asks the manager: ‘Under the influence of alcohol and narcotics?’

The manager's response made his fears all too plain: ‘We need someone to be sent to us urgently, because I don't know if the guest's life is at risk.

‘The room has a balcony and we are afraid that they might do something’

Seconds later, it appeared it was too late to prevent the tragedy as the manager said with emotion in his voice: ‘Send only SAME, only SAME. [the city’s emergency paramedic service]

BBM - it sounds like maybe the fall occurred while the second emergency call was still in progress. Maybe he was threatening to jump and that’s why the call was initiated?
 
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Doesn't anyone else find the hotel 911 call really suss? The first call they hang up... then on the second they say they are concerned for his life because he is in a 3rd floor room with a balcony... well why did they carry him up there then? Also on the second call they say to send an ambulance but not the police. If he isn't already injured and they havent done anything wrong, why are they asking for an ambulance but no police? Surely they need the police to calm him down and sort this out if he's been violent. I feel like no one else is seeing this?

I do. I found it strange as soon as I saw the transcript tbh. To me it reads as though he had potentially already jumped/fallen and the hotel feel they may be implicated, so they were backwards engineering this as an attempt to cover something up. JMO. MOO. Research has shown that any kind of 'story building' in a 911 call can indicate the caller has some ulterior motive other than asking for help. It's also odd they don't want the police. Even in a scenario where the jump/fall has already happened, any caller knows the police *must* attend those circumstances.
 
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‘Was Liam Payne's balcony dangerous? Hotel staff were 'worried that railing was easy to fall over' before star plunged to his death with a lighter, a whisky bottle and his phone in his hands’


I didn’t realize until I saw the photo from inside the hotel room how low the balcony railing is. I know the safety regulations for buildings will be very different in Argentina to the legal requirements for balcony railing heights here in the UK and other countries, but it looks more like a decorative railing than one that is adequate for safety purposes. It is easy to see how an adult who has been drinking etc. could stumble and easily fall over because of how low it is. A child could easily climb onto the seat and go over the railing if the balcony door was left open or a parent was distracted and wasn’t watching them for a couple of minutes. I’m surprised there have not been more fatalities or serious injuries involving tourists or people who live in Argentina staying at the hotel.

Hopefully, the hotel will take action and raise the height of the railings on the balconies to make them safer, because this does appear to be a safety issue that needs to be addressed as soon as they can.
 
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Liam Payne was reportedly dropped by Universal Music just days before his death.

The late One Direction star died on Wednesday aged 31 after falling off a balcony at a hotel in Buenos Aires, Argentina.

After the band went on hiatus in 2015, Liam went on to sign with Universal’s Capitol Records imprint before falling under the main label after a recent reshuffle.’


‘…Surmising that he'd spotted an email that "upset" him, Rebecca said: "Suddenly he took the computer, shouted '🤬🤬🤬🤬 this s**t mate!' and started bashing the computer on the ground."

The singer's "out of place" behaviour "shocked" onlookers in the "high-end" hotel, but concerned, Rebecca said she asked him if he was OK. She explained: "But he just kind of grunted. Then he said 'I used to be in a boyband. That's why I'm so f**ked up'."


It appears that Liam may have been struggling significantly to cope with everything going on his life with him being dropped by his record label, the legal action being taken against him last week, his PR person who had represented him for a long time quit last month and all the other problems he had. It looks like he was spiralling out of control and things came to a head on the day of his tragic death.
 
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Liam Payne was reportedly dropped by Universal Music just days before his death.

The late One Direction star died on Wednesday aged 31 after falling off a balcony at a hotel in Buenos Aires, Argentina.

After the band went on hiatus in 2015, Liam went on to sign with Universal’s Capitol Records imprint before falling under the main label after a recent reshuffle.’


‘…Surmising that he'd spotted an email that "upset" him, Rebecca said: "Suddenly he took the computer, shouted ' this s**t mate!' and started bashing the computer on the ground."

The singer's "out of place" behaviour "shocked" onlookers in the "high-end" hotel, but concerned, Rebecca said she asked him if he was OK. She explained: "But he just kind of grunted. Then he said 'I used to be in a boyband. That's why I'm so *advertiser censored*ked up'."


It appears that Liam may have been struggling significantly to cope with everything going on his life with him being dropped by his record label, the legal action being taken against him last week, his PR person who had represented him for a long time quit last month and all the other problems he had. It looks like he was spiralling out of control and things came to a head on the day of his tragic death.
Who is the British man Roger they mention in the Daily mail article you quoted?
 
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So so sad "if only" he had been with someone or gone home same day as his GF
 
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Going from the guy that helped one direction become so successful with some of the songs he wrote, to a guy alone in hotel room, watching his ex bandmates in concert having successful solo carers ( esp harry) while his record label cancels him. Talk about feeling like life is unfair.
His troubles seemed to hold him back, probably felt some accountability for one direction spitting, ( too much conflict) he talked about mental health and addiction and often apologized for the things he said about them in interviews. ( regret?)
The label cancelling him was probably devastating might explain some of the self promoting that he was doing outside his hotel , while Niall was there to perform in concert.
Who knows how true that book " looking forward" is, she said she didnt want to write about ALL of the horrible things he did, and in a true bio you have to include everything??? but in fiction you dont?? She talks about this in her Tik Tok viral video, watch it, it gives you perspective. I guess she felt like she was sparing him by writing fiction, that way she didnt have to include all the details ( or be that accurate)
Then he's served with a cease and desist which feels a little misinterpreted, and then reading a million negative comments about yourself based on things that may or may not even be accurate or taken out of context?
Thats alot to manage in a very short time, while alone in a hotel room with substance misuse/ mental health issues and probably feeling very very misunderstood. Its heart breaking because I bet he felt like he was his own worst enemy, but could not get out of his own way.
 
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‘Was Liam Payne's balcony dangerous? Hotel staff were 'worried that railing was easy to fall over' before star plunged to his death with a lighter, a whisky bottle and his phone in his hands’


I didn’t realize until I saw the photo from inside the hotel room how low the balcony railing is. I know the safety regulations for buildings will be very different in Argentina to the legal requirements for balcony railing heights here in the UK and other countries, but it looks more like a decorative railing than one that is adequate for safety purposes. It is easy to see how an adult who has been drinking etc. could stumble and easily fall over because of how low it is. A child could easily climb onto the seat and go over the railing if the balcony door was left open or a parent was distracted and wasn’t watching them for a couple of minutes. I’m surprised there have not been more fatalities or serious injuries involving tourists or people who live in Argentina staying at the hotel.

Hopefully, the hotel will take action and raise the height of the railings on the balconies to make them safer, because this does appear to be a safety issue that needs to be addressed as soon as they can.

If that circled balcony was where he fell from, then that's actually what we USAmericans would call the 4th floor. I think in the UK and other countries, the ground floor is called the terrace level and the next floor up, what we call the second floor, they call the first floor, and so on. Long story short, this is a floor higher than I pictured in my USAmerican mind.
 
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If that circled balcony was where he fell from, then that's actually what we USAmericans would call the 4th floor. I think in the UK and other countries, the ground floor is called the terrace level and the next floor up, what we call the second floor, they call the first floor, and so on. Long story short, this is a floor higher than I pictured in my USAmerican mind.
Maybe he thought he'd make it to the pool? ugh this is such a tragedy. I feel so bad for him.
 

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