Oscar Pistorius - Discussion Thread #65~ the appeal~

[soozieqtips]

Overslept. Just catching up. Thanks everyone.

 

[Deleted member 102539]

Barry Bateman ‏@barrybateman 19 Sek.Vor 20 Sekunden
#OscarPistorius Roux going through the evidence which Masipa considered - the text messages were unhelpful to the court. BB

 

[Val1]

Sorry, I can't listen to Roux's fairytale... I'll just wait for the court's findings and hope they're state side. :/

 

[Sherbert]

SCA: She locked herself in the toilet when she was supposed to be sleeping.

 

[Deleted member 102539]

Time: 10:50
Defence team says Judge Masipa took all factors into account. Roux is going through the judgment in fine detail, discussing the screams and cricket bat sounds. He is discussing the first and second round of noises

http://ewn.co.za/Features/Oscar-Pistorius-Appeal

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Time: 10:55
The defence is covering an array of issues, including the cellphone in the bathroom, the locked door and gastric juices.

 

[Sherbert]

Roux: The screams have no relevance to DE.

 

[soozieqtips]

Ooh. To Roux: "You haven't explained why you've ignored Mangena's evidence" and Roux seems to be getting agitated.

 

[Sherbert]

Roux: The points raised by the State are irrelevant. The State needed to raise questions of law.

SCA refers again to Mangena.

Roux concedes that he was an important witness - he corrected the State re stumps.

 

[Deleted member 102539]

Time: 10:59
Roux is now disputing the State's argument that a fragmented approach to circumstantial evidence was made by Masipa. More probing questions from a judge.

http://ewn.co.za/Features/Oscar-Pistorius-Appeal

Position Reeva behind the door, OP - knowing or not knowing her position re the shots.

 

[Sherbert]

SCA: the important part of Mangena's evidence is with regard to DE.

SCA refers to reconstruction of toilet cubicle.

The toilet was so small - there was no cover.

 

[soozieqtips]

One of the judges wants the dimensions of the toilet and disagrees with Roux that the room was 'relatively' small. He says it was very restricted, and one of the photographs proves there was nowhere to hide.

 

[Sherbert]

Roux is having a hard time.

 

[JudgeJudi]

Roux is being put on the back foot by Chief Justice. Roux says the toilet is relatively small. Justice Leach says relatively? Leach is arguing the size, no place to hide. If you put 4 shots into that toilet you must foresee that someone will be shot. There is no room for manoeuvre. Leach says it would be a miracle if someone wasn't shot. Roux says he'll deal with it.

 

[atthelake]

Whoa .. we have agreement that there is no room if someone was behind door

 

[Sherbert]

He is trying to suggest that the toilet wasn't as small as all that...

 

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Barry Bateman ‏@barrybateman 53 Sek.Vor 54 Sekunden
#OscarPistorius Majiedt: the accused was familiar with firearms and used ammunition he knew does great damage to body tissue. BB

Barry Bateman ‏@barrybateman 2 Min.Vor 2 Minuten
#OscarPistorius Majiedt: Mangena’s evidence showed that the deceased was standing upright behind the door, and the accused fired at body.

Barry Bateman ‏@barrybateman 2 Min.Vor 2 Minuten
#OscarPistorius Leach: if you put four shots through the door you must know that you will kill somebody. BB

Barry Bateman ‏@barrybateman 2 Min.Vor 2 Minuten
#OscarPistorius Leach now questioning the size of the cubicle - there is no place to hide in there. BB

 

[soozieqtips]

Roux losing his momentum??

 

[Sherbert]

SCA: it would be a miracle if you didn't shoot someone.

 

[soozieqtips]

Roux doing his famous "I will come back to that" speech.

 

[soozieqtips]

Adjourning for 15mins. Time to get tea and feed cat.