GUILTY PA - Christina Regusters for kidnap, rape of 5yo girl, Philadelphia, 14 Jan 2013 - #2

[matou]

I wish we had a description of "China". I also wonder why they waited so long to release this information about her being a person of interest if this is in fact the teen who dropped N off at the park.

I think police said they were taking things slow with the victim, because of her trauma. In the second tweet I posted, the victim was brought back to the scene (the park, I'm guessing). This may be a recent recollection from the victim. JMO We've all been waiting for news about this other female, and supposed helper. I'm looking for the posts and one of them suggests that the 'helper' told her to hide or run away and that she was going to go back to get the others. The victim told Mr. Myers that she was being chased. Maybe she was told this by the person who lead her to the park. In any case, it was a good thing she got out of that house and was discovered quickly after she got there.

 

[sadnpod]

I can see this as a viable situation....

Reminds me of "The Underground Railroad".... Only used for nefarious reasons in this case...

JMO

It doesn't sound so far fetched to me either.

 

[lillygator]

do we know what she went to the hospital for?

 

[belimom]

I can see this as a viable situation....

Reminds me of "The Underground Railroad".... Only used for nefarious reasons in this case...

JMO

Oh I can see something like this happening. But I can't see the scenario as laid out -- that N was unaware the other children there for the FGM were around and they were unaware of her presence. Otherwise, I can see it. Plus, they all didn't have to be there at the same time, kwim?

But as far as performing that procedure and having everything be quiet and hush-hush? Not unless they were using general anesthesia would the screams not be heard.

 

[tlcya]

I wish we had a description of "China". I also wonder why they waited so long to release this information about her being a person of interest if this is in fact the teen who dropped N off at the park.

Maybe, like us, they were confused as to whether she was an endangered victim of these people or a participant and so, didn't want to risk highlighting her possible involvement in N's escape.

So all mention of the teen disappears from all press and LE statements since almost day one of N being found. A few little blurbs and then boom all mention of that angle go away.

And now, all this time later, up pops the teen angle again.

Accomplice or victim? LE may have shared the same confusion as to her role as we did.

 

[tlcya]

Oh I can see something like this happening. But I can't see the scenario as laid out -- that N was unaware the other children there for the FGM were around and they were unaware of her presence. Otherwise, I can see it. Plus, they all didn't have to be there at the same time, kwim?

But as far as performing that procedure and having everything be quiet and hush-hush? Not unless they were using general anesthesia would the screams not be heard.

It is not my thinking that N did not know there were other children there, she has told LE there were. I am thinking it is why she was hidden away beneath a bed, because the other children should not know that she, a kidnapped child, was there.

I am not sold on this "clinic" idea, it does seem very very far fetched to me. I just had to throw it out there.

 

[matou]

"Later on someone at the house put her out the house and told her to run and call the police," said the girl's grandfather.

"But without her clothes on? " asked NBC10's Lu Ann Cahn. "What happened?"

"God only knows," he replied.

http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Missing-5-Year-Old-Found-Safe-in-Delco-186912431.html

 

[Dr. Know?]

It appears China A. Brown was found in November per this fb site. I had to drop her middle name to find info on her.

https://www.facebook.com/USAsMissingKids/posts/497813393569983

 

[starry77]

I've been trying to catch up and haven't read past page 22 or so, so pardon if this has already been resolved.

Like I said before, I teach very close by to this school. My students are of a similar age to the victim.

The reason that we have no clarity on the race of the male suspect is because our only eyewitness is extremely unlikely to be able to differentiate between white and black skin. My students constantly say that I am "light-skinned" and express great surprise when I tell them that I am white (and believe me, I am quite pasty). Several still aren't convinced. Our victim is likely also unable to differentiate between a "light-skinned" black person and a white person.

That being said, I think it is fairly safe assume this is a light-skinned black male unless we hear otherwise. Her neighborhood is very insulated and self-isolated and racially homogenous. I am one of the only white people in my school- administration, teachers, staff, children included. White people are simply not common in her neighborhood. But because she is unable to tell the difference (likely) between black and white, the police probably just can't rule out white for sure.

I just can't quite get behind the FGM theory. This was such a bold abduction that I also get the feeling that it must be a message of some kind.

 

[Dr. Know?]

Teen Named "China" Link to Girl's Abductors

Police say China is a teenage girl, probably between the ages of 14 and 17. She has a thin build, is light skinned and has long, straight black hair. They want to get the information out in the community because they believe people who know China may be able to lead them to the abductors. The reward for information that leads police to the capture and conviction of the abductors is now up to $80,000.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/50619240/

 

[belimom]

It is not my thinking that N did not know there were other children there, she has told LE there were. I am thinking it is why she was hidden away beneath a bed, because the other children should not know that she, a kidnapped child, was there.

I am not sold on this "clinic" idea, it does seem very very far fetched to me. I just had to throw it out there.

bbm

Got it -- I thought I was saying the same thing but maybe not. Sorry for the confusion! :seeya:

 

[Tucarra]

She was not soaking wet. The reports said The man who found her said she was in a damp adult tshirt. It was nasty here that day. And there was light rain starting after midnight. It could have just been wet from that.


http://weather.philly.com/auto/philly/history/airport/KPNE/2013/1/15/DailyHistory.html

Not sure I recall seeing anything specific on the T-Shirt...an actual picture or a catalog type picture would be useful, I think...

Hoping like heck they got some DNA or fibers off of that T-Shirt...

 

[starry77]

The latest Philly.com article says, "[the victim] was not seriously physically harmed, police said." Not sure how to quote.

I keep going back to revenge. The mom moved very recently. And for many residents of West Philly, South Philly might as well be on the other side of the country. Was the move for protection?

 

[belimom]

The latest Philly.com article says, "[the victim] was not seriously physically harmed, police said." Not sure how to quote.

I keep going back to revenge. The mom moved very recently. And for many residents of West Philly, South Philly might as well be on the other side of the country. Was the move for protection?

That's confusing. The wording previously used gave the impression that she had been harmed... "brutally attacked". I looked up an article on philly.com but the one I pulled up doesn't mentioned anything about her not being harmed.

If you select the text, copy it, then just come here and paste it.

 

[starry77]

That's confusing. The wording previously used gave the impression that she had been harmed... "brutally attacked". I looked up an article on philly.com but the one I pulled up doesn't mentioned anything about her not being harmed.

If you select the text, copy it, then just come here and paste it.

http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/...st-in-kidnapping-reward-increases-to-80K.html

Hope this works. I found it confusing, too.

Look at the second to last paragraph.

 

[Yoda]

Police also identify block where they think she was held.
6200 larchwood

Changed the block number to correct location and deleted media link with incorrect number.

 

[starry77]

Wow, I'm shocked that police believe she was held at the 1500 Larchwood block. That is on the edges of University City, a completely different neighborhood of West Philadelphia, where U of Sciences, UPenn, and Drexel are located. The likelihood of the male being white has just increased with that new information, IMO.

The article you posted completely contradicts the one I did, which states that the officers were able to narrow down the route and confirm that the child was taken WEST of the school.

Someone is reporting sloppily.

EDIT: I don't think the 1500 Larchwood info is correct. Capt. John Darby says in this article she took them to the 6200 Larchwood block, which makes much more sense. http://www.myfoxphilly.com/story/20754628/police-seek-person-of-interest-in-5yr-o

 

[matou]

The new person of interest in the case, according to investigators, may go by the name "China" or "Chyna" and is described as black, between 14 and 17 years old, thin, and has a light complexion and long, straight black hair. She was seen wearing a hooded sweatshirt and tights.

http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/...st-in-kidnapping-reward-increases-to-80K.html

 

[matou]

Police also identify block where they think she was held.
1500 larchwood

http://www.metro.us/philadelphia/co...ed-5-year-old-girl-may-have-been-held-captive

Is this within the area searched?

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/Police_narrowing_search_for_abductors_of_5-year-old_girl.html

The image isn't embedding again. It's the map of the area that was searched.

 

[starry77]

No, 1500 Larchwood is not within the searched area.