PA PA - Kortne Ciera Stouffer, 21, Palmyra, 29 July 2012 - #1

[epiphany]

In video, station reports family attorney confirms Kortne had an argument with someone the morning she went missing:

@ 1:00

http://www.kwch.com/videogallery/71...tne-Stouffer-Brings-Out-Volunteers-for-Search

 

[sreshowtime]

Knox , there doesn't appear to be a creek/river running thru Palmyra proper, but there are some nearby. I do see some lakes around, and a possible old quarry with lakes, to the NE of the town.
interestingly Palmyra is the sinkhole capital of the US...I wonder if there are caves?

eta- quick research- yes there are caves, apparently so given the karst geology of the region, ugh

 

[sreshowtime]

An argument that morning?? do they mean 3:45? Or earlier? Who heard it??

cw028- you indicated you had heard something about the police being called around 3 a.m.? could that have been in reference to an argument?

oh this is getting stranger by the minute

 

[cluciano63]

Do they know who she argued with?
Didn't her family say earlier they know who was the last to see her? So would this be the same person?

 

[sreshowtime]

yes I think the father stated that he knew the last to see but didn't want to name because if the investigation...I believe that is what was said.

 

[sreshowtime]

According to zillow, there is a 1 BR apt with basement access on first floor, and the up consists of a 3Br Upper Apartment with 1 Bedroom On 2nd Floor & 2 Finished Rooms On 3rd Floor Used As Additional Bedrooms.
I am curious if Kortne and her BF also had other roommates??? If so , where were they.

 

[epiphany]

I believe Kortne lives on 2nd floor. The 1-bedroom, then. No roommates other than BF that I've read.

 

[sreshowtime]

http://www.whptv.com/news/local/sto...cessful-no/a8MeCMD3mkegfuRwI7yVQw.cspx?rss=50

Search for missing Palmyra woman unsuccessful, no one giving up

 

[sreshowtime]

Yes they are saying second floor in MSM....the 2nd floor unit has 3 br's , one on the 2nd floor and 2 more up in the 3rd/attic...I guess that neighbor that mentioned, ahh, the comings and goings upstairs, lived in the 1br on first floor??
Seems like a 'big' apt for a young couple starting out...maybe. that is why I wondered about roomies.

 

[epiphany]

Her entrance to apartment on side of house? Believe it appeared that way to me in one of photos with police tape??

 

[sreshowtime]

Yes it kinds of looks that way, the front facing Main ( which is hiway 422 btw) has 2 doors fro the main floor units- this is a semi detached home so the other side is a different residence. So guess a side, or back entrance maybe where the parking is?

more I am thinking about it, like mentioned somewhat up thread by someone?... dare I say this, In my Opinion only-I am worrying about someone with a badge abusing their authority??

I mean why doesn't dad want to say who saw her last, if he knows? Wouldn't it help to know , in case a vehicle was involved? Why doesn't LE say that person is cleared...or being investigated??

 

[hytime]

THere is a well known business called Indian Echo Caverns a few miles outside Hershey in Hummelstown, a cave but a very active business daily that is locked up without any access
to public unless paid admission. Don't know of any other caves. Yes plenty of sinkholesq.

 

[epiphany]

Palmyra police among last to see Stouffer

The first 911 call was made at 3:12 a.m. for a disturbance and indicates that Patrolman Timothy Lengle arrived on the scene 3 minutes later. The dispatch record provides no additional details other than the officer reported he was leaving the scene at 3:49 a.m. - about the time Stouffer was last seen, according to a borough police news release issued about 60 hours after her disappearance.

http://www.ldnews.com/announcements/ci_21266936/palmyra-police-among-last-see-stouffer

 

[epiphany]

The EMA log states that borough police were called back to Stouffer's address for another disturbance at 4:12 a.m. and left at 4:36 a.m.

http://www.ldnews.com/announcements/ci_21266936/palmyra-police-among-last-see-stouffer

 

[hytime]

I should add that when sinkholes open up they are pretty large and filled in, none active at this time that I am aware of.

 

[epiphany]

Report is also stating that her dog is missing.

Hadn't they been reporting prior to this evening that her dog was in her apartment?

 

[sreshowtime]

good going epiphany!

her DOG is missing????
oh my :thud: why haven't they said this! so people could look for a dog too!! omg..I thought they had indicated her dog was there, and made it sound like the BF had his with him! oh grr

thanks hytime, I was off researching caves- gonna park this link here JIC- http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/pennsylvania/19461-pennsylvania-indian-caves.html

 

[epiphany]

Yes they are saying second floor in MSM....the 2nd floor unit has 3 br's , one on the 2nd floor and 2 more up in the 3rd/attic...I guess that neighbor that mentioned, ahh, the comings and goings upstairs, lived in the 1br on first floor??
Seems like a 'big' apt for a young couple starting out...maybe. that is why I wondered about roomies.

Reporting tonight that she lives on second floor of a duplex apartment.

 

[sreshowtime]

So did the police not see her again at 4:12 to 4:36 ?? What happened from 3:49 to 4:12??

 

[epiphany]

A family member tells CBS 21 News her car keys were inside her car and all of her shoes were also left behind.

http://www.whptv.com/news/local/sto...n-pleads-with-the/a8MeCMD3mkegfuRwI7yVQw.cspx