PA PA - Kortne Ciera Stouffer, 21, Palmyra, 29 July 2012 - #4

[dogloverinpa]

This is my point of confusion. Is bf BH or BL?

It's BH.

 

[LivingJuicy]

Silent, lazy, and uninterested law enforcement. Remind me to do my murdering and kidnapping in Palmyra and Lebanon County from know on. Heck, it might be a nice place to sell drugs as well. May as well go for the trifecta.

Oh no! I can't with you! Lol.

I hear ya, its so silent.

 

[scorekeeper]

Kortne, where are you???

Please come home safe.

Somebody knows!!!

 

[reedus23]

I think they need some local pressure...I think whatever happened is local, by locals and that she is not that far away. Not sure HLN would be of much help; they really do not have as huge an audience as some believe.

I couldn't agree more. Plus they're style of questioning actually creates more confusion than answers.

 

[reedus23]

Well we have never heard from Holly's boyfriend in almost a year and a half...

I was just thinking how the silence reminds me of Holly's case.

 

[Money Girl]

Does PA have a state bureau of investigation that could be called in because of lack of performance / questionable behavior on the part of local LE?

 

[Lois Lane]

Does PA have a state bureau of investigation that could be called in because of lack of performance / questionable behavior on the part of local LE?

That would be the Pennsylvania State Police.

What is the evidence that there has been any malfeasance/nonfeasance on the part of the Palmyra Borough Police Department?

Local rumors are not sufficient, IMO.

Something to consider is that the Palmyra PD is not the only law enforcement agency involved in investigating the disappearance of Kortne Stouffer.

The Lebanon County District Attorney's Office has been involved in the investigation at a minimum as early as five days (August 2) after she disappeared. I say "at a minimum" because that is the earliest media report I recall that made it clear that the DA's office is active in the investigation. If I were putting money on that specific issue, I would bet that the DA's involvement began considerably earlier than August 2.

Additionally, the Pennsylvania State Police have been involved "from the beginning" according to the Lebanon County District Attorney Dave Arnold:

...we've had assistance from State Police from the very beginning....

http://www.whptv.com/news/local/sto...ttorney-speak-out/txwWJAYip0SHrqNT3ADRlQ.cspx

Frankly, IMO, we (the public) don't have enough facts, and it is too soon, to determine if this case has gone "cold" from an investigative standpoint or if there has been any malfeasance/nonfeasance on the part of law enforcement agencies.

The lack of available information could be because law enforcement investigators have very little information, but I don't think that is true in this case. We have been made aware that a number of people have been interviewed by investigators; we don't know the totality of what those interviews have revealed and to some degree what has been reported has been inconsistent and at times, lacking.

Additionally, we do not know what information/leads may have come from her phone activity prior to her disappearance. Maybe nothing; maybe something. We don't know, nor do we have any right to know, IMO.

Lack of information available to the public during a criminal investigation could also be because we don't have a right to be privy to all of that information.

That's not to say that law enforcement should be exempt from being made aware that the public has an interest in seeing this case solved. IMO, it's a good thing for the public and the media to make sure law enforcement agencies are kept aware that public interest has not waned.

 

[Lois Lane]

I don't remember if his full name was given in MSM but I know his first initial is "B". If you do mention him, please use initials.

His first name has been used by MSM media; his last name has not.

Lebanon County Court records indicate that the correct initials are BH.

 

[scorekeeper]

could it be possible that the District Attorney's office was only involved to the point of gathering information and issuing the citations for the underage drinkers?

I wonder why they didn't issue a warrant for Kortne's arrest for supplying alcohol to minors? Wouldn't that be standard?

Or did that "problem" vanish???

 

[Eileen730]

Kind of OT, but I watched a show recently where a mother was talking about her daughter's case. I can't remember the specifics but what stuck out in my mind was that she really had no idea what was going on from LE, they didn't give her too much information and then all of a sudden there was an arrest.

Maybe we think we are owed more than what usually is given? I mean, this was the girl's mother! I think of that everytime I see these lack of information posts.

I don't know what is normal in these cases, I have no experience, thank goodness.

If LE went and told the parents and the public who they were looking at or talking to
some parents could take it upon themselves to seek justince in their own way.
Or end up on this persons doorstep and maybe do harm to an innocent person.

I think this is why parents and the public are not told very much.

It could very well be for everyones protection!

JMO

 

[Eileen730]

could it be possible that the District Attorney's office was only involved to the point of gathering information and issuing the citations for the underage drinkers?

I wonder why they didn't issue a warrant for Kortne's arrest for supplying alcohol to minors? Wouldn't that be standard?

Or did that "problem" vanish???

Im wondering what the LE officer said to her that night!

 

[Eileen730]

Does PA have a state bureau of investigation that could be called in because of lack of performance / questionable behavior on the part of local LE?

I have a question!

dont you think as a parent of a missing child if you dont think LE is doing enuff you would call maybe the FBI and request their help or call their
PD and request that they call in the FBI?

If i thought LE wasnt doing what i felt was a good enuff job finding my missing daughter id sure make myself heard. They would hear me loud and clear!
The govornor would be first!

I also dont think we need to know what LE knows!

Just a thought!

 

[Eileen730]

could it be possible that the District Attorney's office was only involved to the point of gathering information and issuing the citations for the underage drinkers?

I wonder why they didn't issue a warrant for Kortne's arrest for supplying alcohol to minors? Wouldn't that be standard?

Or did that "problem" vanish???

I thought someone posted that they have to wait for the blood alcohol levels
on the kids before they can charge her with serving them.

but cant they just do breath test?

 

[scorekeeper]

I thought someone posted that they have to wait for the blood alcohol levels
on the kids before they can charge her with serving them.

but cant they just do breath test?

charges were filed against 2 males for underage drinking. I don't have the link right now, but no charges against Kornte mentioned at this time.

 

[Cassell]

could it be possible that the District Attorney's office was only involved to the point of gathering information and issuing the citations for the underage drinkers?

I wonder why they didn't issue a warrant for Kortne's arrest for supplying alcohol to minors? Wouldn't that be standard?

Or did that "problem" vanish???

That problem didnt vanish.....Kortne did. How can they charge someone who hasnt been seen since the evening of that incident?

 

[Lois Lane]

could it be possible that the District Attorney's office was only involved to the point of gathering information and issuing the citations for the underage drinkers?

I wonder why they didn't issue a warrant for Kortne's arrest for supplying alcohol to minors? Wouldn't that be standard?

Or did that "problem" vanish???

Unlikely that the DA's involvement was solely for the underage drinking; I doubt that the search warrants executed on Kortne's apartment and car were for underage drinking. There is also the matter of a search warrant for MR's car.

The two persons cited in the underage drinking event are charged with summary offenses; I don't believe it is necessary for the DA to be involved in issuing citations for summary offenses. Not being a resident of Pennsylvania, I'm not absolutely certain about that. In my state and others, District Attorneys are involved in felony cases and the more serious misdemeanor charges; they are not involved in, nor are they required for, lesser offenses such as traffic violations and/or summary offenses. But those issues vary from state to state.

The two underage drinking citations regarding the party on July 28 were issued by the Palmyra PD.

For the record, the officer listed in the Magisterial District Court records as the arresting officer for both individuals is Timothy Lengle of the Palmyra PD.

http://ujsportal.pacourts.us/DocketSheets/MDJ.aspx

http://www.abc27.com/story/19410688...artment-before-kortne-stouffers-disappearance

 

[Cassell]

I find it so disheartening that there is no news....even to reassure us everything is being done to find Kortne. I understand only so much information can be released, but couldnt the media come out with something......even reminding the public that she is still missing and asking for their help in finding her. there isnt even much info published when there is a public event held on her behalf. I think it is so important to keep this story alive so that Kortne is not forgotten.

 

[scorekeeper]

prayer vigil set for September 10.

http://www.ldnews.com/announcements...an-kortne-stouffer-planned?source=most_viewed

 

[JurysOut]

I'm hoping this will be like the Mickey Shunick case.

Nothing- nothing- nothing- nothing *BAM*

Very, very bad man arrested seemingly out of the blue.

But it wasn't out of the blue.

LE had been silently building their case for weeks & weeks.

In that case, a LOT of community tips were used. When people thought no one was talking, everyone was talking.

I was impressed by how it was handled, but not after being extremely frustrated by the evident 'nothing'

I hope the nothing we're getting is that kind of nothing.


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[Truman]

That problem didnt vanish.....Kortne did. How can they charge someone who hasnt been seen since the evening of that incident?

Scorekeeper wondered about why a warrant wasn't issued. You don't need to know where someone is to issue a warrant.