People being detained and "exported" by ICE

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I don't know that a thread exists yet but I'd like to start a thread that deals with people being grabbed on the streets in the USA and either deported or detained. It seems that some are sent to detention camps in Louisiana. And some are put on planes to El Salvador.

I'm not saying it's right or wrong but I thought a thread would be relevant in light of recent news articles.
 
"A federal judge in Boston ruled that Tufts doctoral student Rumeysa Ozturk cannot be deported until she decides whether she has jurisdiction to rule if Ozturk was lawfully taken into custody.

Judge Denise Casper said Friday that Ozturk "shall not be removed from the United States until further Order of this Court."

The government revoked Ozturk's visa due to her pro-Palestinian activism, according to Secretary of State Marco Rubio, who added the State Department may have revoked more than 300 student visas since the beginning of the second Trump administration'.


"It might be more than 300 at this point. We do it every day. Every time I find one of these lunatics, I take away their visa," Rubio said during a press conference in Guyana on Thursday'.


 
Russian scientist working at Harvard detained by Ice at Boston airport

Petrova’s boss, Leon Peshkin, said in an interview on Thursday that the researcher had good reason to fear being returned to Russia because she had publicly protested the Russian invasion of Ukraine in its first days, called for the impeachment of Vladimir Putin, the Russian president, and was arrested. She managed to flee, first to the former Soviet republic of Georgia and then to the United States, to continue her research on genomes.

So it seems that if you stand against Russia, you will be arrested in the USA.
 
"A federal judge in Boston ruled that Tufts doctoral student Rumeysa Ozturk cannot be deported until she decides whether she has jurisdiction to rule if Ozturk was lawfully taken into custody.

Judge Denise Casper said Friday that Ozturk "shall not be removed from the United States until further Order of this Court."

The government revoked Ozturk's visa due to her pro-Palestinian activism, according to Secretary of State Marco Rubio, who added the State Department may have revoked more than 300 student visas since the beginning of the second Trump administration'.


"It might be more than 300 at this point. We do it every day. Every time I find one of these lunatics, I take away their visa," Rubio said during a press conference in Guyana on Thursday'.


How dare they speak up against people slaughtering innocent civilians who are fighting for their lives??

I don't understand Rubio's take. Is he calling everyone who disagrees with him a 'lunatic'??
 
Most of the cases I've heard about of highly educated people who are being deported involve green-card holders who TBH weren't following rules about political speech and activism. They do not have complete freedom of speech the way citizens do.
 
Most of the cases I've heard about of highly educated people who are being deported involve green-card holders who TBH weren't following rules about political speech and activism. They do not have complete freedom of speech the way citizens do.
But doesn't the constitution allow them free speech? I believe it does.
 
Most of the cases I've heard about of highly educated people who are being deported involve green-card holders who TBH weren't following rules about political speech and activism. They do not have complete freedom of speech the way citizens do.
As far as I know, the First Amendment applies to any individual who resides legally in the United States. There are limits to free speech but the criteria don't involve whether an individual is an American born individual, a landed immigrant, or a green card recipient. It refers to the nature of the speech. I could stand outside a store all day yelling about how the owner is a thief who ripped me off and should go to jail. Hell, a few people might agree with me but that doesn't mean I'm engaging in speech that could be restricted. As far as I know, publicly stating your dismay over a governments actions and getting people on board with your viewpoint, isn't one of them. In the case of Remeysa Osturk, the PhD student who wrote an op-ed regarding Israel's indiscriminate bombing of Gaza was a criticism that many people have regardless of their resident status of the US or the world, overall. In my opinion, if she hadn't been wearing a hijab she wouldn't have been arrested. Which leads me to believe her ethnic background was what got her arrested.
 

Peshkin said that Petrova was a highly skilled researcher – “she is spectacular, the best I’ve ever seen in 20 years at Harvard,” – and had a visa that enabled her to work in the US and travel abroad freely. In February, however, when she was in Paris on vacation, her boss “made a huge mistake”. He asked her to pick up a box of frog embryo samples from colleagues in France and bring them back to the lab at Harvard.

The import of these samples, Peshkin said, was legal, but Petrova made some sort of paperwork mistake on the US customs declaration form and was stopped by customs officers on her return to Logan airport in Boston.

Although the legal penalty for improperly importing this non-toxic, non-hazardous frog material is simply a fine of up to $500, Peshkin said, immigration officers decided to deny Petrova re-entry to the US. When she informed the authorities of her very real fear of being jailed for protesting Putin’s war on Ukraine should she be returned to Russia, “she was transferred to Ice, into detention, to wait for an asylum hearing,” Peshkin said.

Petrova should be eligible for parole while she waits for that hearing, Peshkin added, “but paroles are now not happening”.


An absolute disgrace and I don't mean Kseniia Petrova
 
IMO


I'm so glad that some of the wrongs from the last few years are being reversed. Many repeat violent criminals have been caught and deported.












Those are just a small sampling of articles from the ICE Newsroom:








IMO
 
In fact, Russian scientist Petrova was detained by US CBP officers for purposely trying to smuggle frog embryos without declaring them (that's what her cell phone data says.) Thus, she's violated her visa conditions which led to the visa's been revoked. I's kind of a careless behavior to me.

Just be really careful with this sort of justification. Accusations of improper behaviour do not necessarily mean that there actually was improper behaviour. There is a due process to follow which is being ignored. Clearly these arrests are meant to intimidate. It is typical of a fascist agenda.
 
Most of the cases I've heard about of highly educated people who are being deported involve green-card holders who TBH weren't following rules about political speech and activism. They do not have complete freedom of speech the way citizens do.

You may be thinking of some other kind of visa holder. The only thing that green card holders cannot do is vote in local, state or federal elections. They still have to pay US taxes, file US tax returns, act lawful, and do everything else that a US citizen is meant to do.
Another green card condition is to make sure that the govt knows where you live. So if you move, you need to inform them.

There is a very intense vetting procedure to go through before people are issued a green card. Lots of proofs required and things checked. I was a US green card holder for many years.


"One thing the Supreme Court has been really clear about is that green-card holders, lawful permanent residents, have something akin to the rights of American citizens," Wala said. "And we have seen this administration violating even those norms."

 
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Deported OC couple with no criminal record transported 'like animals,' daughter says

[...]

Stephanie Gonzalez said her parents were arrested and detained on Feb. 21 after a routine supervision appointment. That day, Gladys Gonzalez was initially granted a one-year extension to stay in America, prompting her daughter to think that "everything's gonna be fine, like it always is."

A few hours later, however, Nelson Gonzalez called to inform the family he was being detained by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement and that Gladys' extension was revoked and she was being detained as well.

[...]

ICE confirmed to ABC News that Gladys and Nelson Gonzalez do not have criminal records and have been deported to Colombia.

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Stephanie Gonzalez said her parents were transported to detention facilities in different states without knowing where they were going and that she and her sisters had no way of tracking them, calling it "a mess."

[...]

Nelson and Gladys Gonzalez came to America in 1989, seeking asylum from violence in Colombia, their daughter said.

[...]

Stephanie Gonzalez confirmed that her parents were faced with a voluntary deportation day in 2000, but she added that they subsequently spent over 20 years filing appeals. Though her parents' cases were closed in 2021, Stephanie Gonzalez said they were instructed simply to continue showing up to their supervision appointments and check in with the appropriate authorities.

During these supervision visits, Nelson and Gladys Gonzalez consistently got approved to stay in the U.S., though the time frame almost always varied, she continued.

"Sometimes, they would get three months. One time, they got one month. One time, I think they got almost three years where they didn't have to appear before immigration," Stephanie Gonzalez recounted.

[...]

Nelson Gonzalez was a certified phlebotomist who drew blood and conducted life insurance exams, his daughter said. He was also a part-time Uber driver, even working overnight to make extra money, with Stephanie Gonzalez emphasizing what immigrants like her parents "contribute to society."

She expressed a desire for the public to change the narrative around immigrants, emphasizing that her parents are "hardworking people. ... They've paid taxes. They've raised us three to follow the law. ... They love America."

[...]

She noted that she feels "devastated" to hear "so many parents being taken from their kids, families being separated and broken apart."

"That is something that should break people's hearts," she said.

 
A friend of Neri Alvarado, currently rotting in a Salvadoran prison on Trump's orders, shares a video of him volunteering to help neurodiverse children learn to swim.Neri was seemingly sent there after someone at ICE thought his autism awareness tattoo was a "gang tattoo."

You're right, it was worse than that; it was seemingly because of a miscommunication, since an ICE officer reviewed his tattoos, examined his phone, and told him that he agreed that Neri was NOT a member of Tren de Aragua. Yet he still got sent there.

 

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Undocumented Irish have not felt overly vulnerable until now but at least one Irish woman who overstayed illegally was deported to Panama. I believe she is back in Ireland now.

Irish, undocumented, and unsure of their future in Trump's America​

Irish privilege?​

While Mary fears for her own status, she says communities of color are bearing the brunt of President Trump's immigration crackdown while she can somewhat fly under the radar.

"There's some very hardworking people that have set up businesses and are employing people and all of a sudden, you know, they're on a plane somewhere, their lives have changed, and it's very hard," she said. "I absolutely do feel for people."

Aisling, an undocumented Irish waitress in Chicago, who has lived in America for eight years, says that while she is concerned she may become a "collateral damage" target for the administration, ICE raids in her neighborhood have targeted predominantly Latino communities — something she has condemned as racist.

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Edit: She was deported to Panama not El Salvador as I originally wrote.
 
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