People being detained and "exported" by ICE

[TootsieFootsie]

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Passengers from Mexico stranded on Alabama tarmac for seven hours after diversion to airport with no customs staff​

 

[sds71]

@jimsciutto


New: Man who was mistakenly deported ‘is alive and secure’ in El Salvador mega prison, DOJ says.“It is my understanding based on official reporting from our Embassy in San Salvador that Abrego Garcia is currently being held in the Terrorism Confinement Center in El Salvador,” a senior Justice Department official wrote in the filing. “He is alive and secure in that facility.”

 

[SouthAussie]

@jimsciutto


New: Man who was mistakenly deported ‘is alive and secure’ in El Salvador mega prison, DOJ says.“It is my understanding based on official reporting from our Embassy in San Salvador that Abrego Garcia is currently being held in the Terrorism Confinement Center in El Salvador,” a senior Justice Department official wrote in the filing. “He is alive and secure in that facility.”

That is good news. There should be no excuses now for not upholding the Supreme Court direction to bring him back.

imo

 

[fred&edna]

The reason he stayed is because the judge gave him permission - legal status. He did not stay illegally.


"In October 2019, an immigration judge denied Abrego Garcia’s asylum request but granted him protection from being deported back to El Salvador because of a “well-founded fear” of gang persecution, according to his case. He was released, and ICE did not appeal.

Abrego Garcia checked in with ICE yearly while the Department of Homeland Security issued him a work permit, his attorneys said in court filings. He joined a union and was employed full time as a sheet metal apprentice."

What to Know About Kilmar Abrego Garcia, the Deportee SCOTUS Ordered Trump Admin to Return

The Supreme Court ordered the Trump Administration to facilitate Abrego Garcia’s return to the U.S. after the White House mistakenly deported him to a notorious El Salvador prison.

time.com

just for clarification. the judge did not give him permission - legal status... as you stated.

as i stated or tried to state previously. the 2019 immigration court judge ruled on evidence presented in court that abrego-garcia was a gang member and was to be deported. the judge also denied a-g's request for asylum in the us, however, he did grant that a-g not be deported to el salvador. all of this was a-g's due process. yes, as you pointed out to me... a 2025 administrative error overlooked the ruling that he not be transported back to el salvador. maybe something can be done regarding the that error but it won't be easy.

eta; i may not know exactly why he continued to stay in the us but it certainly wasn't because the judge gave him permission.

jmo

 

[SouthAussie]

just for clarification. the judge did not give him permission - legal status... as you stated.

as i stated or tried to state previously. the 2019 immigration court judge ruled on evidence presented in court that abrego-garcia was a gang member and was to be deported. the judge also denied a-g's request for asylum in the us, however, he did grant that a-g not be deported to el salvador. all of this was a-g's due process. yes, as you pointed out to me... a 2025 administrative error overlooked the ruling that he not be transported back to el salvador. maybe something can be done regarding the that error but it won't be easy.

eta; i may not know exactly why he continued to stay in the us but it certainly wasn't because the judge gave him permission.

jmo

"Abrego Garcia, a Salvadoran citizen, has lived in Maryland for almost 15 years. While he initially entered the U.S. without being granted legal status, a federal judge in 2019 granted him protection from being deported"


Do you have a link that says he could be deported elsewhere, to a place other than El Salvador? Because I doubt that can be the case. Other countries do not generally take deported citizens that are not from their country. imo

https://www.npr.org/2025/04/10/nx-s1-5358421/supreme-court-abrego-garcia-deportation-decision

 

[BeginnerSleuther]

just for clarification. the judge did not give him permission - legal status... as you stated.

as i stated or tried to state previously. the 2019 immigration court judge ruled on evidence presented in court that abrego-garcia was a gang member and was to be deported. the judge also denied a-g's request for asylum in the us, however, he did grant that a-g not be deported to el salvador. all of this was a-g's due process. yes, as you pointed out to me... a 2025 administrative error overlooked the ruling that he not be transported back to el salvador. maybe something can be done regarding the that error but it won't be easy.

eta; i may not know exactly why he continued to stay in the us but it certainly wasn't because the judge gave him permission.

jmo

Do you have an approved source that? What you are stating regarding a judge ordering his deportation is counter to everything MSM is reporting AND goes against what the government itself said in court, admitting he should not have been deported (not he should not have been deported to El Salvador; they said he should not have been deported).

"President Donald Trump’ s administration has acknowledged mistakenly deporting a Maryland man with protected legal status to a notorious El Salvador prison last month"

An ‘administrative error’ sent a Maryland man to an El Salvador prison, ICE says

President Donald Trump's administration has acknowledged mistakenly deporting a Maryland man with protected legal status to a notorious El Salvador prison.

apnews.com

"The U.S. has already acknowledged Kilmar Abrego Garcia - a Salvadoran migrant who lived in the U.S legally with a work permit - was deported in error last month when the government flew three planes of migrants alleged to have ties to violent gangs or immigration violations to the Central America country."

Judge orders return of wrongly deported Maryland man to US from El Salvador

The U.S. said Kilmar Abrego Garcia was deported in error.

www.reuters.com

"Abrego Garcia “should not have been removed,” he said, adding that he didn't know why Abrego Garcia was ever arrested. “I am also frustrated that I also have no answers for you on a lot of these questions,” he said."

Justice Department places attorney who struggled to explain Maryland man's deportation on leave

The attorney said in court that the administration shouldn't have deported Kilmar Abrego Garcia, a protected legal resident.

www.nbcnews.com

So if you have a source stating that he was under deportation orders, please consider linking so the rest of us can catch up.

 

[fred&edna]

Do you have an approved source that? What you are stating regarding a judge ordering his deportation is counter to everything MSM is reporting AND goes against what the government itself said in court, admitting he should not have been deported (not he should not have been deported to El Salvador; they said he should not have been deported).

"President Donald Trump’ s administration has acknowledged mistakenly deporting a Maryland man with protected legal status to a notorious El Salvador prison last month"

An ‘administrative error’ sent a Maryland man to an El Salvador prison, ICE says

President Donald Trump's administration has acknowledged mistakenly deporting a Maryland man with protected legal status to a notorious El Salvador prison.

apnews.com

"The U.S. has already acknowledged Kilmar Abrego Garcia - a Salvadoran migrant who lived in the U.S legally with a work permit - was deported in error last month when the government flew three planes of migrants alleged to have ties to violent gangs or immigration violations to the Central America country."

Judge orders return of wrongly deported Maryland man to US from El Salvador

The U.S. said Kilmar Abrego Garcia was deported in error.

www.reuters.com

"Abrego Garcia “should not have been removed,” he said, adding that he didn't know why Abrego Garcia was ever arrested. “I am also frustrated that I also have no answers for you on a lot of these questions,” he said."

Justice Department places attorney who struggled to explain Maryland man's deportation on leave

The attorney said in court that the administration shouldn't have deported Kilmar Abrego Garcia, a protected legal resident.

www.nbcnews.com

So if you have a source stating that he was under deportation orders, please consider linking so the rest of us can catch up.

don't worry. i'll find you a link. but in the meantime... i've seen the documentation as he was only protected from being deported to el salvador by the 2019 immigration judge.

eta;

In 2019, immigration officials began efforts to deport Abrego Garcia. When he sought to be released from immigration custody with a bond, the government contended that he was a member of MS-13, an international criminal gang.

An immigration judge denied Abrego Garcia’s request for release, finding that “the evidence shows he is a verified member of MS-13.” Although the judge acknowledged that she was “reluctant to give evidentiary weight” to Abrego Garcia’s “clothing as an indication of gang affiliation,” she concluded that it was enough that a “past, proven, and reliable source of information” had verified Abrego Garcia’s “gang membership, gang rank, and gang name.” The Board of Immigration Appeals affirmed that ruling.

Several months later, Abrego Garcia was eventually granted withholding of removal – a form of immigration relief that protects him from being deported to El Salvador. In particular, an immigration judge concluded, Abrego Garcia had shown that gang members in El Salvador continue “to threaten and harass” his family, and authorities in that country “were and would be unable or unwilling to protect him from past or feared future persecution.”

Justices direct government to facilitate return of Maryland man mistakenly deported to El Salvador

The Supreme Court on Thursday evening largely left in place an order by a federal judge in Maryland directing the government to return to the United States a Maryland man […]

www.scotusblog.com

please note the board of immigration appeals affirmed the judges ruling and only later did the judge grant withholding of removal to el salvador. just el salvador. anywhere else would be a-okay.


jmo

 

[HmmMysterious]

don't worry. i'll find you a link. but in the meantime... i've seen the documentation as he was only protected from being deported to el salvador by the 2019 immigration judge.

eta;

In 2019, immigration officials began efforts to deport Abrego Garcia. When he sought to be released from immigration custody with a bond, the government contended that he was a member of MS-13, an international criminal gang.

An immigration judge denied Abrego Garcia’s request for release, finding that “the evidence shows he is a verified member of MS-13.” Although the judge acknowledged that she was “reluctant to give evidentiary weight” to Abrego Garcia’s “clothing as an indication of gang affiliation,” she concluded that it was enough that a “past, proven, and reliable source of information” had verified Abrego Garcia’s “gang membership, gang rank, and gang name.”

I'm willing to bet that "reliable source" was the man (who was arrested with him in 2019) who offered no proof that Kilmar was a gang member.

Well, the Supreme Court has ordered Kimar to come back. What do you mean by "anywhere else would be a-okay"?

https://archive.is/rjY09

 

[fred&edna]

I'm willing to bet that "reliable source" was the man (who was arrested with him in 2019) who offered no proof that Kilmar was a gang member.

Well, the Supreme Court has ordered Kimar to come back. What do you mean by "anywhere else would be a-okay"?

https://archive.is/rjY09

just what is stated in the quote... deportation anywhere except el salvador... ... and that's what i meant.

i provided my opinions and thoughts and i provided a link to support everything i stated. anything else involving betting and argumentation... i'll leave to others... i'm out.

jmo

 

[HmmMysterious]

just what is stated in the quote... deportation anywhere except el salvador... ... and that's what i meant.

i provided my opinions and thoughts and i provided a link to support everything i stated. anything else involving betting and argumentation... i'll leave to others... i'm out.

jmo

Why should Kilmar be deported when he has a valid worker's permit and there's no evidence that he's wanted for a crime in any country?

 

[fred&edna]

Why should Kilmar be deported when he has a valid worker's permit and there's no evidence that he's wanted for a crime in any country?

i feel sure you could do some google research on that question and find some answers. i'm taking a google break right now.

jmo

 

[Cedars]

Why should Kilmar be deported when he has a valid worker's permit and there's no evidence that he's wanted for a crime in any country?

He wasn't just deported, he was sent to prison in El Salvador without a trial.

JMO

 

[BeginnerSleuther]

don't worry. i'll find you a link. but in the meantime... i've seen the documentation as he was only protected from being deported to el salvador by the 2019 immigration judge.

eta;

In 2019, immigration officials began efforts to deport Abrego Garcia. When he sought to be released from immigration custody with a bond, the government contended that he was a member of MS-13, an international criminal gang.

An immigration judge denied Abrego Garcia’s request for release, finding that “the evidence shows he is a verified member of MS-13.” Although the judge acknowledged that she was “reluctant to give evidentiary weight” to Abrego Garcia’s “clothing as an indication of gang affiliation,” she concluded that it was enough that a “past, proven, and reliable source of information” had verified Abrego Garcia’s “gang membership, gang rank, and gang name.” The Board of Immigration Appeals affirmed that ruling.

Several months later, Abrego Garcia was eventually granted withholding of removal – a form of immigration relief that protects him from being deported to El Salvador. In particular, an immigration judge concluded, Abrego Garcia had shown that gang members in El Salvador continue “to threaten and harass” his family, and authorities in that country “were and would be unable or unwilling to protect him from past or feared future persecution.”

Justices direct government to facilitate return of Maryland man mistakenly deported to El Salvador

The Supreme Court on Thursday evening largely left in place an order by a federal judge in Maryland directing the government to return to the United States a Maryland man […]

www.scotusblog.com

please note the board of immigration appeals affirmed the judges ruling and only later did the judge grant withholding of removal to el salvador. just el salvador. anywhere else would be a-okay.


jmo

I think I'll go with what the government itself said -- he should not have been deported. The guy had legal protected status and a work permit. You don't get those things if you're on the deportation list. He is also married to a US citizen. The Supreme Court has ordered him back to the US, so all of that will come out in due time if it's true. For now, I'll trust what the DOJ attorney said.

MOO

 

[ilovewings]

Trump Administration News: State Dept. Ignores Order to Detail Return of Wrongly Deported Migrant

www.nytimes.com

 

[Elley Mae]

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69777799/abrego-garcia-v-noem/

 

[fred&edna]

the initial complaint, first lines, page 2 of 21

In 2019, Plaintiff Kilmar Armando Abrego Garcia won an order from an immigration judgegranting him a form of relief called withholding of removal, which prohibits Defendants fromremoving him to El Salvador. Should Defendants wish to remove Plaintiff Abrego Garcia to ElSalvador, the law sets forth specific procedures by which they can reopen the case and seek to setaside the grant of withholding of removal. Should Defendants wish to remove Plaintiff AbregoGarcia to any other country, they would have no legal impediment in doing so.

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mdd.578815/gov.uscourts.mdd.578815.1.0_3.pdf

bbm... again, there it is in the initial legal complaint filed by abrego garcia's own attorney... el salvador only.... no legal impediment to removing him to another country.

even for a legal document the wording is plain... and my point entirely. i know what i stated was not wrong nor incorrect information. for if so, then garcia's own attorney is wrong.

jmo

 

[HmmMysterious]

the initial complaint, first lines, page 2 of 21

In 2019, Plaintiff Kilmar Armando Abrego Garcia won an order from an immigration judgegranting him a form of relief called withholding of removal, which prohibits Defendants fromremoving him to El Salvador. Should Defendants wish to remove Plaintiff Abrego Garcia to ElSalvador, the law sets forth specific procedures by which they can reopen the case and seek to setaside the grant of withholding of removal. Should Defendants wish to remove Plaintiff AbregoGarcia to any other country, they would have no legal impediment in doing so.

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mdd.578815/gov.uscourts.mdd.578815.1.0_3.pdf

bbm... again, there it is in the initial legal complaint filed by abrego garcia's own attorney... el salvador only.... no legal impediment to removing him to another country.

even for a legal document the wording is plain... and my point entirely. i know what i stated was not wrong nor incorrect information. for if so, then garcia's own attorney is wrong.

jmo

This is from 2019, it doesn't matter anymore. The Supreme Court has upheld Judge Paula Xinis' order that Kilmar should be brought back to the U.S. This is you beating a dead horse.

 

[TootsieFootsie]

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[SouthAussie]

Should Defendants wish to remove Plaintiff AbregoGarcia to any other country, they would have no legal impediment in doing so.

The problem is .... this would be true if Abrego García voluntarily left the US or was deported to a country other than El Salvador, but that is not what happened. The government removed Abrego García to El Salvador in violation of US law.

imo

 

[fred&edna]

This is from 2019, it doesn't matter anymore. The Supreme Court has upheld Judge Paula Xinis' order that Kilmar should be brought back to the U.S. This is you beating a dead horse.

the full truth absolutely matters, at least it matters to me... and i would hope it matters to anyone reading here. there were several links posted on this thread with only partial or incomplete information... which can often lead to incorrect thoughts/opinions. it is very important that no one assumes that i am spreading incorrect details... whether those details are liked or not.

jmo