People being detained and "exported" by ICE

[Lilibet]

it’s either due process FOR ALL, or due process FOR NONE. There is no in between, we don’t get to pick and choose who we think “deserves” due process. Even the most horrific murderers and criminals in this country receive due process and it’s the very foundation of our legal system. I would say it’s a slippery slope to see what is happening to all these people being immediately deported without due process but it’s actually just a straight free fall off the fascism cliff. All MOO.

Oh, but I assume there’s no due process for “animals,” as Trump has called them.

From 'rapists' to 'eating the pets': Trump has long used degrading language toward immigrants

Trump’s lies about Haitian immigrants were simply his latest rhetoric that dehumanizes and targets immigrant populations.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[IzzyBlanche]

i already stated all the legal reasons he should be deported along with my opinions.

being at least a 2-time accused wife beater is evidence he can be vicious... and isn't the sweet, loving husband and daddy as many want to portray him. it's possible he battered his wife with the three kids present and watching... i don't know but it wouldn't surprise me.

<modsnip: personalizing >

jmo

Legal reasons? Seriously? Unproven accusations and possibilities are not legal reasons for deportation.

They're not even legal reasons for an arrest.

 

[Anance]

"Van Hollen said Salvadoran Vice President Félix Ulloa told him the government had no information connecting Abrego Garcia to MS-13 ....

“If the government of El Salvador has no evidence that he was part of MS-13, why is El Salvador continuing to hold him in CECOT?” Van Hollen asked.

Thanks for providing the link! I began to think I was crazy - a version of the Mandela effect

 

[Anance]

The response from Trump's team, so far? Outright mockery. The administration was reprimanded by lower courts and ridiculed them. The Supreme Court
" But the administration has brushed them off. In fact, it says, there was no mistake. It even suspended the federal attorney who admitted the error.

BBM

And this is why a protected, independent civil service is important in a modern democracy.

 

[BeginnerSleuther]

i already stated all the legal reasons he should be deported along with my opinions.

being at least a 2-time accused wife beater is evidence he can be vicious... and isn't the sweet, loving husband and daddy as many want to portray him. it's possible he battered his wife with the three kids present and watching... i don't know but it wouldn't surprise me.

<modsnip: personalizing >

jmo

If he beat his wife, then he deserves to be put on trial with court records, public hearings, and let the judicial system play it out. If he's sentenced to prison, then put him in prison HERE, in America, where he is. If he qualifies for deportation, then deport him, not to a prison but the country we need to deport him to (obviously, not El Salvador without a new order). That's how we do things in the USA. It's in our Constitution. It's the law of this land. What's happening now, with people disappearing ILLEGALLY off the street, being kidnapped and trafficked to other countries? This is NOT who we are.

MOO.

 

[Anance]

A good, yet disheartening and horrific read.

You have no idea how scared people are. And, how horrific "bystanders" can be. You can buy an ICE uniform, go to Spanish language AA, and terrify everyone. Including legal immigrants and U.S. citizens, some of whose families have been here for several generations.

(Note: Sometimes Latinos go to Spanish language AA meetings to maintain their anonymity. )

 

[Anance]

Clearly I am not speaking of proven bad people.

Keek,

I have not heard of true gang areas being shaken down by ICE. They are deporting people who cannot show an ID when accosted. Or people showing up for their appointments at immigration. Job sites and schools are favorite places.

There are parts of Miami where no one feels safe. ICE is not there.

 

[Anance]

U.S. citizen released from jail after arrest under Florida’s new anti-immigration law • NC Newsline

a U.S. citizen wrongfully arrested under a Florida immigration law has been released and his mother is exploring filing a lawsuit

ncnewsline.com

Leon County Judge LaShawn Riggans ruled Thursday morning that she lacked jurisdiction to release him because U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement had formally asked the jail to hold him for 48 hours.

After Riggans’ inspection of his Social Security card and birth certificate, which an advocate waved in the courtroom, the judge said she found no probable cause for the charge.

“In looking at it, and feeling it, and holding it up to the light, the court can clearly see the watermark to show that this is indeed an authentic document,” Riggans said.

Florida's law requires that you show True ID - proof of legal residence. In FL, the driver's license serves this purpose.

 

[Anance]

A Chinese doctoral student lost his student visa for no reason.

When a Chinese doctoral student at the University of Washington challenged the U.S. government in court the other day, asking why his legal status had been suddenly revoked, the answer was striking for its banality.

“I think ICE’s position, Your Honor, is that they have the general ability to establish and maintain that database, and that as part of that general maintenance of the database, they can make changes to it,” the U.S. attorney said.

So: Because they feel like it. Because they can.

ICE is Immigration and Customs Enforcement, and it has now deleted legal status to be in the country for 23 UW students — during the middle of a school term, with no reasons given. In the case Thursday, the judge noted the casual indifference of it all.

This situation reflects the sentiment of "I don't agree with it, but I understand it." Essentially, the United States has the right to determine who can reside in the country. While I disagree with deporting individuals with casual indifference, I can understand the principle behind this decision.

If enough cases occur, IMO, the US will edge close to ethnic cleansing.

 

[SouthAussie]

"Even as Miami-Dade County Mayor Daniella Levine Cava seeks to inspect the conditions of immigrants at the Krome Detention Center, immigrant groups and a federal judge say the mayor is in breach of a court settlement ....

A little-known 2021 settlement agreement between the county and immigrant groups was meant to shield some undocumented immigrants in county jails from being handed over to federal immigration authorities if they were victims or witnesses of a crime, exceptions explicitly allowed by state law. The county runs the jails system.

But since 2022, according to U.S. District Court Judge Kathleen Williams, the county has not abided by that agreement. The result is dozens of residents potentially being transferred to federal custody and facing deportation.

Williams ordered the county to pay legal fees amounting to $354,289 to cover the costs of plaintiffs that have spent nearly three years trying to get the county to comply with the settlement.

A new order in the case outlining the county's violation of the settlement and next steps in the process for bringing the county into compliance is expected within the coming week."

Miami-Dade breached settlement protecting undocumented immigrants from being handed over to ICE

The little-known 2021 settlement was meant to shield some undocumented immigrants in county jails from being handed over to federal authorities if they were victims or witnesses of a crime. Getting the county to abide is more pressing now that the conditions at the Krome Detention Center are...

www.wusf.org

 

[SouthAussie]

"At 80, Judy Ishibashi still spends her Saturdays wielding protest signs, her resolute spirit undimmed by age.

Ishibashi’s family was among the hundreds of thousands of Japanese Americans interned during WWII, when then-President Franklin D. Roosevelt invoked the Alien Enemies Act immediately after the 1941 bombing of Pearl Harbor.

“We need to know what we’re doing to these aliens, that even if we let them out of wherever the hell they are right now, or wherever they’re going, their trauma isn’t going to end there,” Ishibashi said. “It’s going to go on and it’s going to affect generations, and we need to be aware of what we’re doing.” "

Deportations stir echoes of Japanese American incarceration in WWII

At 80, Judy Ishibashi still spends her Saturdays wielding protest signs, her resolute spirit undimmed by age.

lasvegassun.com

 

[keek]

Keek,

I have not heard of true gang areas being shaken down by ICE. They are deporting people who cannot show an ID when accosted. Or people showing up for their appointments at immigration. Job sites and schools are favorite places.

There are parts of Miami where no one feels safe. ICE is not there.

Yes, agree totally. I mean people who are caught in the act or arrested with VALID and real proof of a criminal act. LIke anyone else. I know ICE is sent to easy targets, which is sickening. I despise the whole thing. Good information on Miami for example, that ICE is not even there but grabbing easy marks at work and school. Of course, further disgusting 'behavior' by monstrous administration.

 

[BeginnerSleuther]

A Chinese doctoral student lost his student visa for no reason.



This situation reflects the sentiment of "I don't agree with it, but I understand it." Essentially, the United States has the right to determine who can reside in the country. While I disagree with deporting individuals with casual indifference, I can understand the principle behind this decision.

If enough cases occur, IMO, the US will edge close to ethnic cleansing.

The time to determine whether or not an individual can reside in the country is before they come here and build a life. You don't snatch their legal status for no reason just as a show of power. That's horrific and will hopefully be struck down loud and clear by the courts.

MOO.

 

[weepingangel]

U.S. citizen in Arizona detained by immigration officials for 10 days

Immigration officials in Tucson arrested the 19-year-old man from Albuquerque on April 8, saying he had entered the country illegally, before a judge dismissed his case on April 17.

news.azpm.org

 

[sunshineray]

"A federal judge in Boston ruled that Tufts doctoral student Rumeysa Ozturk cannot be deported until she decides whether she has jurisdiction to rule if Ozturk was lawfully taken into custody.

Judge Denise Casper said Friday that Ozturk "shall not be removed from the United States until further Order of this Court."

The government revoked Ozturk's visa due to her pro-Palestinian activism, according to Secretary of State Marco Rubio, who added the State Department may have revoked more than 300 student visas since the beginning of the second Trump administration'.


"It might be more than 300 at this point. We do it every day. Every time I find one of these lunatics, I take away their visa," Rubio said during a press conference in Guyana on Thursday'.

Deportation halted for Tufts student whose visa Rubio says was revoked due to activism

The government revoked Rumeysa Ozturk's visa due to her pro-Palestinian activism, Secretary of State Marco Rubio said Thursday.

abcnews.go.com

Since when has America considered dissidents something to be expelled from our country? If not for dissidents Democracy would never have taken hold and we'd still be under a King's rule. Oh...wait...is THAT the point of all this?

 

[fred&edna]

when abrego-garcia filed for asylum which was denied, the judge withheld deporting to el salvador based on abrego-garcia's request. in that request abrego-garcia said was afraid of the primary ms-13 rival gang, barrio 18.

the only reason he feared barrio-18 would harm him is because he, abrego-garcia, is a member of ms-13.

where's proof of his having a family business in el salvador which is being threatened.... it doesn't exist.

jmo

 

[sapphire blue]

when abrego-garcia filed for asylum which was denied, the judge withheld deporting to el salvador based on abrego-garcia's request. in that request abrego-garcia said was afraid of the primary ms-13 rival gang, barrio 18.

the only reason he feared barrio-18 would harm him is because he, abrego-garcia, is a member of ms-13.

where's proof of his having a family business in el salvador which is being threatened.... it doesn't exist.

jmo

<modsnip>

‘According to court filings, Kilmar Abrego Garcia was born in July 1995 in the neighborhood of Los Nogales in El Salvador, where he helped his family run a business making pupusas, a local cuisine. He has said he and his family received death threats and were extorted by the local gang Barrio 18.’

What we know about Kilmar Abrego Garcia, the Maryland man mistakenly deported to El Salvador

The government claims he’s a member of the MS-13 gang, which his wife and attorney deny, and deported him to El Salvador despite a judge’s 2019 order barring him from being sent there.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[Anance]

"Even as Miami-Dade County Mayor Daniella Levine Cava seeks to inspect the conditions of immigrants at the Krome Detention Center, immigrant groups and a federal judge say the mayor is in breach of a court settlement

when abrego-garcia filed for asylum which was denied, the judge withheld deporting to el salvador based on abrego-garcia's request. in that request abrego-garcia said was afraid of the primary ms-13 rival gang, barrio 18.

the only reason he feared barrio-18 would harm him is because he, abrego-garcia, is a member of ms-13.

where's proof of his having a family business in el salvador which is being threatened.... it doesn't exist.

jmo

There is no evidence of Abrego-Garcia being a member of MS-13. The El Salvadoran VP confirmed it.

There is this link that South Aussie posted a little further back ....

"Van Hollen said Salvadoran Vice President Félix Ulloa told him the government had no information connecting Abrego Garcia to MS-13 ....

“If the government of El Salvador has no evidence that he was part of MS-13, why is El Salvador continuing to hold him in CECOT?” Van Hollen asked.

“And his answer was that the Trump administration is paying the government of El Salvador to keep him at CECOT.” "

https://www.borderreport.com/news/v...-with-abrego-garcia-during-el-salvador-visit/

 

[Stunned]

If what the El Salvavdorian VP is saying is true, is he going to end up in the detention camp?

 

[TheTeach]

If he beat his wife, then he deserves to be put on trial with court records, public hearings, and let the judicial system play it out. If he's sentenced to prison, then put him in prison HERE, in America, where he is. If he qualifies for deportation, then deport him, not to a prison but the country we need to deport him to (obviously, not El Salvador without a new order). That's how we do things in the USA. It's in our Constitution. It's the law of this land. What's happening now, with people disappearing ILLEGALLY off the street, being kidnapped and trafficked to other countries? This is NOT who we are.

MOO.

Yes, All. Of. This.